0:000 secondsHey, Greg. Thanks for coming down to talk epoxy options for our garage floor. Hey, no problem, man. Nice to meet you.
0:055 secondsI got my daughter with me. What's her name if you don't? Uh, her name is Aunt Marie and she is 18 months. She'll be 19 months here soon. Awesome. Nice. Yeah.
0:1515 secondsSo, we're actually getting our garage doors replaced next month and and they're going to be gray on the inside and I'm looking for something to
0:2323 secondscomplement that. I was wondering uh hopefully you could take a look around and get some ideas from it. Yeah, that's no problem, man. Yeah, there's there's a
0:3131 secondsfew different colors. I mean, off the top of my head, there's a color tuxedo, which is good. It's got gray, black, and white. Pretty much goes with everything. I like that. Yeah, it's a good color.
0:3939 secondsYou know, more importantly, the condition of the floor and the prep work. I mean, any questions you have, I can tell you all about it right now if you want. All right, cool. Yeah, let's
0:4747 secondsroll through here in a sec. I, you know, I know you're a legend in the boring industry. Uh, so I'm just kind of curious to hear your recommendations. What's happening?
0:5555 secondsWell, I love your pictures on Facebook. Now, sometimes people ask me, "Hey, man.
0:5959 secondsHow come you always posting?" I'm like, "Well, I post my work." It's like I'm not just posting like, "I just went to I just got a big fat burger and fries.
1:061 minute, 6 secondsCheck it out. Hey, I just got a big burrito. Check it out." It's more like this is what I do for a living for the last 8 years and I people see it. I've
1:131 minute, 13 secondsgotten jobs from it. It helps promote what we're doing. But, um, kind of the deal. Well, I put it out there all the time. No, I think it's cool. It's kind of fun. It's given me some ideas as I've
1:221 minute, 22 secondsscrolled through. But, hey, Greg, go ahead. Do your thing. I'll stay out of your hair. I don't know if you got to take measurements or what, but I'll give you, you know, just do your thing. It's appears to be a standard twocar garage.
1:331 minute, 33 secondsTypically 400 ft², give or take a few, you know, typically what I do, I work alone. I'm an owner operator. I don't have employees. I do all the work myself. I used to try to have employees.
1:431 minute, 43 secondsI went through about 10 people, but it's really extremely difficult to find anybody who wants to work. And then if you do find someone that wants to work, it's really hard to get for them to keep
1:521 minute, 52 secondsup. Yeah. They won't work the same, you know. So, I do it myself. I typically grind the floor with a walk behind grinder.
1:591 minute, 59 secondsYou want to grind the floor. You want to you want to remove the about a business card thickness off the top of the floor.
2:052 minutes, 5 secondsMakes sense. That way you open up the pores and the product can bond to it.
2:092 minutes, 9 secondsOkay. Some of these guys will come in like like I'll do a typical twocar garage for like 2 grand. That's like a a normal price. My competitors are doing
2:172 minutes, 17 secondsit for between 24 and and 3,000. And that's because, you know, they have employees and they have a warehouse and
2:242 minutes, 24 secondsthese kinds of things. I don't have any of that overhead. I I do it all myself and have pretty good sized property that I keep everything on. So, you know, some
2:312 minutes, 31 secondsof these do-it-yourselfers will come in and want to acid wash it and that's no good. That just traps the acid in the concrete. Yeah. Starts eating away at
2:392 minutes, 39 secondsit. And then they want to use those cheap Home Depot Rustoleum garage epoxy kits which are basically junk. I've thought about it and I thought, let's
2:472 minutes, 47 secondsreach out to a professional. So you grind the floor. You patch the cracks.
2:532 minutes, 53 secondsSome people are like there's there's no cracks. But once you grind the floor, you're going to find some spider cracks are in there. We patch them because it's a roll on and you got to patch those. So you patch that. Then you put roll out.
3:033 minutes, 3 secondsTypically what I do is I do the curbs, the stem walls, you know, where the wall meets the floor. Yeah. Do those first.
3:093 minutes, 9 secondsYou don't really have to grind those usually because they're so porous.
3:133 minutes, 13 secondsThey're so already like they've already got a good texture like what you're grinding the floor for to get. Right.
3:183 minutes, 18 secondsSure. So you clean them off and then I just coat them and flake them. Vacuum everything and then I roll the floor out and then I throw flake. Yeah, 99% of the
3:273 minutes, 27 secondsfloors are flake. Okay. Again, some walls solid color. So my wife wanted me to ask, is there a warranty that you
3:353 minutes, 35 secondsoffer with it? Yeah, I offer like a four-year warranty. Okay, cool. Here. So here's the deal. There's no such thing as a lifetime warranty because that's a
3:433 minutes, 43 secondsjoke. Okay, you're going to call somebody in 8 years and say blah blah blah. They're going to be like, "Oh, you know what? Um, I don't recall or blah
3:503 minutes, 50 secondsblah blah or you know there's fine print." The warranties are always about two things. It's about defective material and poor workmanship. So, if
3:583 minutes, 58 secondsthe job looks good when the guy leaves and the next day it's dry, you don't have a warranty. That's bottom line. It
4:064 minutes, 6 secondssounds sounds lame, but that's how it is. So, I go by the typical, hey, I'm going to give a 4-year warranty.
4:134 minutes, 13 secondsTypically, if there's any issues, you know, bubbling or delaminating or anything, that usually happen inside of 2 years. So, I double that. All right.
4:224 minutes, 22 secondsYeah. But my my thought process is this.
4:254 minutes, 25 secondsYou stay in business through referral and doing good work. So, if someone has a problem with something I did, I'm going to go fix it. And I don't care if
4:344 minutes, 34 secondsit's been, you know, seven years because they're going to talk good and I'm going to get jobs from them. That's basically how it works. So, yeah. And that's one
4:414 minutes, 41 secondsquestion I want to ask you because I got I got a buddy with a garage and we were kind of talking about it too and he's looking for someone. So, if he wanted to get a hold of you, would I just tell him
4:504 minutes, 50 secondsto hit you up on Facebook or is there a better way? Yeah, just my phone number is fine. Okay, cool. I mean, this is my business phone, my cell phone. So, Okay,
4:594 minutes, 59 secondsawesome. You know, people are like, "Why don't you get what if somebody calls and bugs you? Someone calls and bugs me and then I'll just block their number. They'll never call me again." Love it.
5:075 minutes, 7 secondsMakes total sense. Makes total sense.
5:105 minutes, 10 secondsHey, I I know you're out here for garages, right? I had to talk about my floor, but do you mind if I just ask you a couple questions while you keep looking around a little bit like uh
5:185 minutes, 18 secondsCool. So, I I know you've been out of game a little while, but I'm hoping you might have a little interest on this project I'm working on. It's actually a
5:255 minutes, 25 secondsdirt works bike made by Livermore Boss for Harry Liry. You were friends with Harry, right? Yeah, I was friends with Harry since I mean, I've known the guy
5:335 minutes, 33 secondssince I was about 11 years old. friends with him from the time I was probably 15 16 all the way towards the
5:425 minutes, 42 secondsend the last seven eight years I haven't really been in touch five six years I haven't been in touch a whole lot but um
5:495 minutes, 49 secondsbut yeah I've known him a long time we had a lot of rac I've heard that and I was always
5:565 minutes, 56 secondswondered how you guys met was it at WSA yeah when I started I went to WSA and he raced it was 14 and over at the time it
6:046 minutes, 4 secondswasn't 14, 15, 16. It was just 14 and over. He was riding for JMC. So I I didn't meet him at WSA, but I watched him a lot there. And then later we met.
6:146 minutes, 14 secondsI don't exactly remember, but you line up with someone, you start racing them, and then you have a few conversations.
6:206 minutes, 20 secondsProbably when I was about 15, I got to know him. And yeah, and uh you know, and he used to come over your house to do gates, right? Yeah. He used to come when
6:286 minutes, 28 secondsI lived at home, he would come over. him and Clint Miller and Stewart would come over and do gates two, three times a
6:356 minutes, 35 secondsweek and u my dad would drop gates or we would take turns dropping gates. We would basically just go out the driveway, hang a left around the mailbox, turn around the neighbor's
6:446 minutes, 44 secondsdriveway and you know the little apron of the driveway, ride the sidewalk back in. Nice. Yeah, cuz I was going to ask you who was there. So you're saying
6:526 minutes, 52 secondsClint Miller? That's pretty cool. Yeah, Clint Miller was there. He was there a lot. He was He was a good dude. He's a good dude. Very cool dude. Good friend of mine. So, I've got to ask, did your
7:007 minuteswife ever come over to practice Gates or were like after losing, were you in that like little rascal He-Man woman haters
7:087 minutes, 8 secondsstance at the time? Um, we were 10 years old. Okay. Well, before teenage years, you know, I mean, even you're 13, it's
7:157 minutes, 15 secondsnot the same as when you're 16, 17. So, yeah. But this was when we were younger, you know. Okay. So, I was like, who all would be there? Trying to imagine that.
7:237 minutes, 23 secondsThat was it. Just that. My mom would be inside and my dad would be at work and sometimes he'd get home while we were doing it. Oh, that's that's way cool. It
7:317 minutes, 31 secondswasn't the kind of thing that we were like wanting to have 20 people at, you know, it was a threeman gate and there was four of us and you you rotated three
7:397 minutes, 39 secondsor four gates and you run the gate three or four times. You just keep rotating so everybody can get time in. You know, this the way to do it. Now, I remember
7:477 minutes, 47 secondsuh hearing a story or seeing actually I don't think I ever saw the picture of the bike of just doing crazy bike stuff, but Harry once took a a bike, turned it
7:557 minutes, 55 secondsupside down, and welded 225 plates to it for the GPV event. Do you Did you ever get into that or the F1 stuff? No, I
8:038 minutes, 3 secondsnever did that stuff. I didn't do that during that time. I was hardcore racing.
8:078 minutes, 7 secondsYeah, I was racing for titles during that time and I just that's all, you know, you can't really can't do two things or you're not going to win a title basically. You have to be all in.
8:168 minutes, 16 secondsSo, I never did that. Makes sense. I've heard that you're the reason that the Liry was created, the jump, and that he was trying to tag your helmet and just
8:258 minutes, 25 secondsgot further and further away. Did he ever hit you?
8:298 minutes, 29 secondsI don't recall that. I don't If he told that story then did he is he the one that said that? I saw that on a podcast.
8:358 minutes, 35 secondsI heard it on a podcast. It might have been the deal. It could have been at WSA on they had a pretty good size jump.
8:408 minutes, 40 secondsFair enough. a big roller on the back street for the last turn. And I think he said he used to like to sit on a tabletop if I remember specifically.
8:488 minutes, 48 secondsYeah, it could have been a little table or roll. I don't know. It was a pretty good in that day. It was a good jump on the track. That might have been true. I don't know. You know, it was so long
8:568 minutes, 56 secondsago, you know, he might have never even told me that. We've been friends. We were friends a long time and I never he never told me that. So, huh. But I mean, if that's the deal, that's cool. Yeah,
9:049 minutes, 4 secondsit is. That's pretty cool because I was gonna I was going to say, well, was he boasting about that? Like, or maybe you can answer that. When he finally got a named Jump, was he just going around
9:139 minutes, 13 secondsboasting about that like crazy? No. No, I've never heard him talk about it ever. No, it's actually really cool to hear.
9:199 minutes, 19 secondsYeah. Oh, another quick question I asked about the floors, the temperature and humidity issues. Is there anything to worry about that with your floors?
9:289 minutes, 28 secondsuh in terms of the install or just how it breaks all like we live in a humid area. So is that going to be an issue?
9:359 minutes, 35 secondsLike what cause that to look more so in a dry area? Once it's cured out, it won't matter what the weather is. You know what I mean? During process the
9:439 minutes, 43 secondsweather, you always have to be concerned of the weather. Yeah. I don't use epoxy. Okay. I use what's called polypartic. Oh, okay. Most people never heard of it.
9:529 minutes, 52 secondsSo, you know, if I was polypartic surface professionals, I probably would be out of business. You know, people don't know what it is. But it's a better
10:0010 minutesproduct. It performs better. When you get below 50°, epoxy almost stops curing, you know, it's just kind of like it takes 50° or hotter. And then Okay.
10:1110 minutes, 11 secondsYeah. So, when you're doing polyaspartic, you don't have such limitations. It cures quicker. If it is massively humid, if it's like 80% humid
10:2010 minutes, 20 secondsout, you don't want to pour it because it won't perform properly. It'll cloud up a little bit. It's not a problem. But that makes sense. For the most part, I
10:2710 minutes, 27 secondsuh Yeah, it's a good product. And 40° out or 100° out, I can I can work with that material. It's not a problem.
10:3410 minutes, 34 secondsPerfect. That works. One word to describe Harry Liry as a friend. Uh he's just intense.
10:4110 minutes, 41 secondsI love it. Even if doing practical jokes, he's pretty intense. Yeah, for sure. Is there a favorite joke prank
10:4810 minutes, 48 secondsthat he pulled that uh you don't mind sharing? I don't think it was more like pranks.
10:5410 minutes, 54 secondsIt was more like mutual stuff that you do. Just guys doing stuff. I mean, we would be on tour one time. I remember
11:0211 minutes, 2 secondsour vehicle going down Interstate 40 and Diamondback was coming up. Harry was driving and then just like a food fight
11:0911 minutes, 9 secondson the highway where you're just throwing bananas and all kinds of crap on their windshield and on the side of their bed and they're trying to throw it
11:1811 minutes, 18 secondson you. Um I love it and loves it too, Greg.
11:2411 minutes, 24 secondsThat's kind of stupid stuff, but Okay, that's that's awesome. I love it. And then with regards to BMX legend, Harry
11:3111 minutes, 31 secondshas a BMX legend. Do you have a word that could describe him?
11:3611 minutes, 36 secondsI just kind of fall back to the whole intense deal cuz, you know, he likes to he has he has to hate his competition.
11:4211 minutes, 42 secondsYeah. He has to get all fired up, you know. Yeah. And I just I feel like hate's kind of a strong word. So I just think it's intense. He just is super intense, man. Okay, that makes sense.
11:5211 minutes, 52 secondsAnd I've heard similar stories from his own mouth. And I guess that kind of leaves the question is did he owe you a last trip into a wall or did you owe him
12:0012 minutesa last trip into a wall? Um I never to be honest. Yeah. Uh I never really had
12:0712 minutes, 7 secondsany issue with Harry. Um I was thinking in fun. We were we were I don't know how to say this without I don't want it to sound stupid or like weird whatever.
12:1812 minutes, 18 secondsYeah, you you get into a situation where you're racing and really the only way you're going to have a beef with someone is if
12:2612 minutes, 26 secondsyou're both on the same part of the track trying to occupy the same space at the same time and someone does something shitty. Yeah, I've had situations like
12:3512 minutes, 35 secondsthat with people that have run me off the track and I've had situations like that where people have been respectful and so I never had any drama with Harry
12:4312 minutes, 43 secondsso I can't really you know I can't really say I owe one you know what I mean like if someone like I'll give you
12:4912 minutes, 49 secondsan example Pete Longerich kicks my tire at the 85 NBL grands in the semi and I
12:5612 minutes, 56 secondscrash two months later at the at the ABA grands I ran him off the track in his semi I mean in the third pain and uh if I didn't do that he would have won the
13:0513 minutes, 5 secondsnumber one plate as it was Ronnie Anderson won. So it's like you know you get equal with people for what they do but none of the people that I'm close
13:1213 minutes, 12 secondswith Stu Clint Harry R any of these dudes they never kicked my front wheel going into a turn you know. Sure. I don't know. I never did when I got out
13:2113 minutes, 21 secondson the track myself. I just focused on what I was doing and if if someone was ahead of me they were more or less just in my way is how I looked at it. So it
13:2813 minutes, 28 secondswasn't a personal thing. I've never had any beef with her at all. Really? So, it's kind of what I've heard. It's really cool to hear your side of things
13:3613 minutes, 36 secondshere. So, I appreciate that. No worries, man. And so, you switched from BMX to to doing the floorings. I It sounds like you're happy and it sounds like you
13:4413 minutes, 44 secondsbelieve it was the right decision. If someone was to do something similar, would you recommend that? I mean, it's all relative. You know, it depends.
13:5213 minutes, 52 secondsLike, for me, I was in the the BMX industry, which, you know, really sucks.
13:5713 minutes, 57 secondsYeah, I mean the BMX hobby is fantastic, but the BMX business is horrible.
14:0414 minutes, 4 secondsThere's probably, you know, like even some of the companies that are big in BMX. Yeah. Whatever you consider big to be the ones that are doing better, I
14:1214 minutes, 12 secondswould say they're not making a whole lot of money. I mean, they're making a living, but nobody's getting wealthy off BMX. You know, for me, once I stopped
14:2014 minutes, 20 secondsdoing BMX and shut GHP down and got into flooring, I mean, the right now I earn way more money than I did in BMX and I
14:2814 minutes, 28 secondshave way more time off. I mean, like I'm never gone on the weekends. I'm every night and I'm going to jobs making, you
14:3814 minutes, 38 secondsknow, sometimes in one day more than it took me two weeks to make in BMX. And not having anyone say, "Hey, can you hook me up? What's my price? What's my,
14:4714 minutes, 47 secondsyou know, In BMX, it's all about the bro price, right? When I go to a floor, I don't ever hear anything like that.
14:5214 minutes, 52 secondsYeah. You're just a normal person going to do a service and you get paid. And in BMX, the business is just it's just so
15:0015 minutesunbelievably terrible. Yeah. I can only imagine. I've heard, you know, stories of being frame manufacturers and kind of just getting hit up. And the margins
15:0815 minutes, 8 secondsaren't great to begin with. So, how much can you actually give away? The margin the margins are are terrible. And the problem is there's too many frame. when we stopped there was like 250 different frames on the market, you know. Yeah.
15:1815 minutes, 18 secondsAnd like we would we've sold almost like a,000 frames a year almost and it was like you're not making any money selling that. Probably I don't know how many
15:2615 minutes, 26 secondsframes the companies that are doing good in BMX sell but you know there's nobody selling 20,000 frames a year. You know they might be lucky to sell 2,000. Yeah,
15:3415 minutes, 34 secondsI doubt it. But and the biggest problem is like this is a prime example when I got out of BMX and shut GHP down completely. We had probably 35 or 40
15:4315 minutes, 43 secondssupport teams. They each had like anywhere from 5 to 20 riders. Like my my phone never rang. It's just completely stopped. You have people that you think
15:5215 minutes, 52 secondsare your friends and you leave and it's gone and you don't hear from no one, you know? It's like they're off on somebody else's camp to get free stuff and just for the hookup, you know? Oh, yeah. No,
16:0016 minutesI I understand that from a different industry's perspective, but yeah, get it. Yeah. I wouldn't get back into BMX if somebody offered me all the money in
16:0916 minutes, 9 secondsthe world. I would not do it, man. I'm glad you're happy. super happy not being here, you know. Well, hey, I appreciate
16:1616 minutes, 16 secondsyou taking the time to come on down and talk with me. No problem, man. It's all good. When you're ready to go, just let me know. Perfect. I'll uh let me talk
16:2416 minutes, 24 secondswith the wife. We'll talk about those things we talked about and then we'll get back with you and hopefully talk again soon. Awesome. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. You, too. No. Bye. Okay.
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