Status: Machine-generated transcript normalized only for timestamp readability. Not publication-ready: Speaker identification, punctuation, proper names, uncertain words, and timestamp alignment require verification against the recording. Editorial rule: The raw transcript remains preserved unchanged in
source/original-transcript-timestamped.txt.
[00:00] Hey, Greg. Thanks for coming down to talk epoxy options for our garage floor. Hey, no problem, man. Nice to meet you.
[00:05] I got my daughter with me. What’s her name if you don’t? Uh, her name is Aunt Marie and she is 18 months. She’ll be 19 months here soon. Awesome. Nice. Yeah.
[00:15] So, we’re actually getting our garage doors replaced next month and and they’re going to be gray on the inside and I’m looking for something to
[00:23] complement that. I was wondering uh hopefully you could take a look around and get some ideas from it. Yeah, that’s no problem, man. Yeah, there’s there’s a
[00:31] few different colors. I mean, off the top of my head, there’s a color tuxedo, which is good. It’s got gray, black, and white. Pretty much goes with everything. I like that. Yeah, it’s a good color.
[00:39] You know, more importantly, the condition of the floor and the prep work. I mean, any questions you have, I can tell you all about it right now if you want. All right, cool. Yeah, let’s
[00:47] roll through here in a sec. I, you know, I know you’re a legend in the boring industry. Uh, so I’m just kind of curious to hear your recommendations. What’s happening?
[00:55] Well, I love your pictures on Facebook. Now, sometimes people ask me, “Hey, man.
[00:59] How come you always posting?” I’m like, “Well, I post my work.” It’s like I’m not just posting like, “I just went to I just got a big fat burger and fries.
[01:06] Check it out. Hey, I just got a big burrito. Check it out.” It’s more like this is what I do for a living for the last 8 years and I people see it. I’ve
[01:13] gotten jobs from it. It helps promote what we’re doing. But, um, kind of the deal. Well, I put it out there all the time. No, I think it’s cool. It’s kind of fun. It’s given me some ideas as I’ve
[01:22] scrolled through. But, hey, Greg, go ahead. Do your thing. I’ll stay out of your hair. I don’t know if you got to take measurements or what, but I’ll give you, you know, just do your thing. It’s appears to be a standard twocar garage.
[01:33] Typically 400 ft², give or take a few, you know, typically what I do, I work alone. I’m an owner operator. I don’t have employees. I do all the work myself. I used to try to have employees.
[01:43] I went through about 10 people, but it’s really extremely difficult to find anybody who wants to work. And then if you do find someone that wants to work, it’s really hard to get for them to keep
[01:52] up. Yeah. They won’t work the same, you know. So, I do it myself. I typically grind the floor with a walk behind grinder.
[01:59] You want to grind the floor. You want to you want to remove the about a business card thickness off the top of the floor.
[02:05] Makes sense. That way you open up the pores and the product can bond to it.
[02:09] Okay. Some of these guys will come in like like I’ll do a typical twocar garage for like 2 grand. That’s like a a normal price. My competitors are doing
[02:17] it for between 24 and and 3,000. And that’s because, you know, they have employees and they have a warehouse and
[02:24] these kinds of things. I don’t have any of that overhead. I I do it all myself and have pretty good sized property that I keep everything on. So, you know, some
[02:31] of these do-it-yourselfers will come in and want to acid wash it and that’s no good. That just traps the acid in the concrete. Yeah. Starts eating away at
[02:39] it. And then they want to use those cheap Home Depot Rustoleum garage epoxy kits which are basically junk. I’ve thought about it and I thought, let’s
[02:47] reach out to a professional. So you grind the floor. You patch the cracks.
[02:53] Some people are like there’s there’s no cracks. But once you grind the floor, you’re going to find some spider cracks are in there. We patch them because it’s a roll on and you got to patch those. So you patch that. Then you put roll out.
[03:03] Typically what I do is I do the curbs, the stem walls, you know, where the wall meets the floor. Yeah. Do those first.
[03:09] You don’t really have to grind those usually because they’re so porous.
[03:13] They’re so already like they’ve already got a good texture like what you’re grinding the floor for to get. Right.
[03:18] Sure. So you clean them off and then I just coat them and flake them. Vacuum everything and then I roll the floor out and then I throw flake. Yeah, 99% of the
[03:27] floors are flake. Okay. Again, some walls solid color. So my wife wanted me to ask, is there a warranty that you
[03:35] offer with it? Yeah, I offer like a four-year warranty. Okay, cool. Here. So here’s the deal. There’s no such thing as a lifetime warranty because that’s a
[03:43] joke. Okay, you’re going to call somebody in 8 years and say blah blah blah. They’re going to be like, “Oh, you know what? Um, I don’t recall or blah
[03:50] blah blah or you know there’s fine print.” The warranties are always about two things. It’s about defective material and poor workmanship. So, if
[03:58] the job looks good when the guy leaves and the next day it’s dry, you don’t have a warranty. That’s bottom line. It
[04:06] sounds sounds lame, but that’s how it is. So, I go by the typical, hey, I’m going to give a 4-year warranty.
[04:13] Typically, if there’s any issues, you know, bubbling or delaminating or anything, that usually happen inside of 2 years. So, I double that. All right.
[04:22] Yeah. But my my thought process is this.
[04:25] You stay in business through referral and doing good work. So, if someone has a problem with something I did, I’m going to go fix it. And I don’t care if
[04:34] it’s been, you know, seven years because they’re going to talk good and I’m going to get jobs from them. That’s basically how it works. So, yeah. And that’s one
[04:41] question I want to ask you because I got I got a buddy with a garage and we were kind of talking about it too and he’s looking for someone. So, if he wanted to get a hold of you, would I just tell him
[04:50] to hit you up on Facebook or is there a better way? Yeah, just my phone number is fine. Okay, cool. I mean, this is my business phone, my cell phone. So, Okay,
[04:59] awesome. You know, people are like, “Why don’t you get what if somebody calls and bugs you? Someone calls and bugs me and then I’ll just block their number. They’ll never call me again.” Love it.
[05:07] Makes total sense. Makes total sense.
[05:10] Hey, I I know you’re out here for garages, right? I had to talk about my floor, but do you mind if I just ask you a couple questions while you keep looking around a little bit like uh
[05:18] Cool. So, I I know you’ve been out of game a little while, but I’m hoping you might have a little interest on this project I’m working on. It’s actually a
[05:25] dirt works bike made by Livermore Boss for Harry Liry. You were friends with Harry, right? Yeah, I was friends with Harry since I mean, I’ve known the guy
[05:33] since I was about 11 years old. friends with him from the time I was probably 15 16 all the way towards the
[05:42] end the last seven eight years I haven’t really been in touch five six years I haven’t been in touch a whole lot but um
[05:49] but yeah I’ve known him a long time we had a lot of rac I’ve heard that and I was always
[05:56] wondered how you guys met was it at WSA yeah when I started I went to WSA and he raced it was 14 and over at the time it
[06:04] wasn’t 14, 15, 16. It was just 14 and over. He was riding for JMC. So I I didn’t meet him at WSA, but I watched him a lot there. And then later we met.
[06:14] I don’t exactly remember, but you line up with someone, you start racing them, and then you have a few conversations.
[06:20] Probably when I was about 15, I got to know him. And yeah, and uh you know, and he used to come over your house to do gates, right? Yeah. He used to come when
[06:28] I lived at home, he would come over. him and Clint Miller and Stewart would come over and do gates two, three times a
[06:35] week and u my dad would drop gates or we would take turns dropping gates. We would basically just go out the driveway, hang a left around the mailbox, turn around the neighbor’s
[06:44] driveway and you know the little apron of the driveway, ride the sidewalk back in. Nice. Yeah, cuz I was going to ask you who was there. So you’re saying
[06:52] Clint Miller? That’s pretty cool. Yeah, Clint Miller was there. He was there a lot. He was He was a good dude. He’s a good dude. Very cool dude. Good friend of mine. So, I’ve got to ask, did your
[07:00] wife ever come over to practice Gates or were like after losing, were you in that like little rascal He-Man woman haters
[07:08] stance at the time? Um, we were 10 years old. Okay. Well, before teenage years, you know, I mean, even you’re 13, it’s
[07:15] not the same as when you’re 16, 17. So, yeah. But this was when we were younger, you know. Okay. So, I was like, who all would be there? Trying to imagine that.
[07:23] That was it. Just that. My mom would be inside and my dad would be at work and sometimes he’d get home while we were doing it. Oh, that’s that’s way cool. It
[07:31] wasn’t the kind of thing that we were like wanting to have 20 people at, you know, it was a threeman gate and there was four of us and you you rotated three
[07:39] or four gates and you run the gate three or four times. You just keep rotating so everybody can get time in. You know, this the way to do it. Now, I remember
[07:47] uh hearing a story or seeing actually I don’t think I ever saw the picture of the bike of just doing crazy bike stuff, but Harry once took a a bike, turned it
[07:55] upside down, and welded 225 plates to it for the GPV event. Do you Did you ever get into that or the F1 stuff? No, I
[08:03] never did that stuff. I didn’t do that during that time. I was hardcore racing.
[08:07] Yeah, I was racing for titles during that time and I just that’s all, you know, you can’t really can’t do two things or you’re not going to win a title basically. You have to be all in.
[08:16] So, I never did that. Makes sense. I’ve heard that you’re the reason that the Liry was created, the jump, and that he was trying to tag your helmet and just
[08:25] got further and further away. Did he ever hit you?
[08:29] I don’t recall that. I don’t If he told that story then did he is he the one that said that? I saw that on a podcast.
[08:35] I heard it on a podcast. It might have been the deal. It could have been at WSA on they had a pretty good size jump.
[08:40] Fair enough. a big roller on the back street for the last turn. And I think he said he used to like to sit on a tabletop if I remember specifically.
[08:48] Yeah, it could have been a little table or roll. I don’t know. It was a pretty good in that day. It was a good jump on the track. That might have been true. I don’t know. You know, it was so long
[08:56] ago, you know, he might have never even told me that. We’ve been friends. We were friends a long time and I never he never told me that. So, huh. But I mean, if that’s the deal, that’s cool. Yeah,
[09:04] it is. That’s pretty cool because I was gonna I was going to say, well, was he boasting about that? Like, or maybe you can answer that. When he finally got a named Jump, was he just going around
[09:13] boasting about that like crazy? No. No, I’ve never heard him talk about it ever. No, it’s actually really cool to hear.
[09:19] Yeah. Oh, another quick question I asked about the floors, the temperature and humidity issues. Is there anything to worry about that with your floors?
[09:28] uh in terms of the install or just how it breaks all like we live in a humid area. So is that going to be an issue?
[09:35] Like what cause that to look more so in a dry area? Once it’s cured out, it won’t matter what the weather is. You know what I mean? During process the
[09:43] weather, you always have to be concerned of the weather. Yeah. I don’t use epoxy. Okay. I use what’s called polypartic. Oh, okay. Most people never heard of it.
[09:52] So, you know, if I was polypartic surface professionals, I probably would be out of business. You know, people don’t know what it is. But it’s a better
[10:00] product. It performs better. When you get below 50°, epoxy almost stops curing, you know, it’s just kind of like it takes 50° or hotter. And then Okay.
[10:11] Yeah. So, when you’re doing polyaspartic, you don’t have such limitations. It cures quicker. If it is massively humid, if it’s like 80% humid
[10:20] out, you don’t want to pour it because it won’t perform properly. It’ll cloud up a little bit. It’s not a problem. But that makes sense. For the most part, I
[10:27] uh Yeah, it’s a good product. And 40° out or 100° out, I can I can work with that material. It’s not a problem.
[10:34] Perfect. That works. One word to describe Harry Liry as a friend. Uh he’s just intense.
[10:41] I love it. Even if doing practical jokes, he’s pretty intense. Yeah, for sure. Is there a favorite joke prank
[10:48] that he pulled that uh you don’t mind sharing? I don’t think it was more like pranks.
[10:54] It was more like mutual stuff that you do. Just guys doing stuff. I mean, we would be on tour one time. I remember
[11:02] our vehicle going down Interstate 40 and Diamondback was coming up. Harry was driving and then just like a food fight
[11:09] on the highway where you’re just throwing bananas and all kinds of crap on their windshield and on the side of their bed and they’re trying to throw it
[11:18] on you. Um I love it and loves it too, Greg.
[11:24] That’s kind of stupid stuff, but Okay, that’s that’s awesome. I love it. And then with regards to BMX legend, Harry
[11:31] has a BMX legend. Do you have a word that could describe him?
[11:36] I just kind of fall back to the whole intense deal cuz, you know, he likes to he has he has to hate his competition.
[11:42] Yeah. He has to get all fired up, you know. Yeah. And I just I feel like hate’s kind of a strong word. So I just think it’s intense. He just is super intense, man. Okay, that makes sense.
[11:52] And I’ve heard similar stories from his own mouth. And I guess that kind of leaves the question is did he owe you a last trip into a wall or did you owe him
[12:00] a last trip into a wall? Um I never to be honest. Yeah. Uh I never really had
[12:07] any issue with Harry. Um I was thinking in fun. We were we were I don’t know how to say this without I don’t want it to sound stupid or like weird whatever.
[12:18] Yeah, you you get into a situation where you’re racing and really the only way you’re going to have a beef with someone is if
[12:26] you’re both on the same part of the track trying to occupy the same space at the same time and someone does something shitty. Yeah, I’ve had situations like
[12:35] that with people that have run me off the track and I’ve had situations like that where people have been respectful and so I never had any drama with Harry
[12:43] so I can’t really you know I can’t really say I owe one you know what I mean like if someone like I’ll give you
[12:49] an example Pete Longerich kicks my tire at the 85 NBL grands in the semi and I
[12:56] crash two months later at the at the ABA grands I ran him off the track in his semi I mean in the third pain and uh if I didn’t do that he would have won the
[13:05] number one plate as it was Ronnie Anderson won. So it’s like you know you get equal with people for what they do but none of the people that I’m close
[13:12] with Stu Clint Harry R any of these dudes they never kicked my front wheel going into a turn you know. Sure. I don’t know. I never did when I got out
[13:21] on the track myself. I just focused on what I was doing and if if someone was ahead of me they were more or less just in my way is how I looked at it. So it
[13:28] wasn’t a personal thing. I’ve never had any beef with her at all. Really? So, it’s kind of what I’ve heard. It’s really cool to hear your side of things
[13:36] here. So, I appreciate that. No worries, man. And so, you switched from BMX to to doing the floorings. I It sounds like you’re happy and it sounds like you
[13:44] believe it was the right decision. If someone was to do something similar, would you recommend that? I mean, it’s all relative. You know, it depends.
[13:52] Like, for me, I was in the the BMX industry, which, you know, really sucks.
[13:57] Yeah, I mean the BMX hobby is fantastic, but the BMX business is horrible.
[14:04] There’s probably, you know, like even some of the companies that are big in BMX. Yeah. Whatever you consider big to be the ones that are doing better, I
[14:12] would say they’re not making a whole lot of money. I mean, they’re making a living, but nobody’s getting wealthy off BMX. You know, for me, once I stopped
[14:20] doing BMX and shut GHP down and got into flooring, I mean, the right now I earn way more money than I did in BMX and I
[14:28] have way more time off. I mean, like I’m never gone on the weekends. I’m every night and I’m going to jobs making, you
[14:38] know, sometimes in one day more than it took me two weeks to make in BMX. And not having anyone say, “Hey, can you hook me up? What’s my price? What’s my,
[14:47] you know, In BMX, it’s all about the bro price, right? When I go to a floor, I don’t ever hear anything like that.
[14:52] Yeah. You’re just a normal person going to do a service and you get paid. And in BMX, the business is just it’s just so
[15:00] unbelievably terrible. Yeah. I can only imagine. I’ve heard, you know, stories of being frame manufacturers and kind of just getting hit up. And the margins
[15:08] aren’t great to begin with. So, how much can you actually give away? The margin the margins are are terrible. And the problem is there’s too many frame. when we stopped there was like 250 different frames on the market, you know. Yeah.
[15:18] And like we would we’ve sold almost like a,000 frames a year almost and it was like you’re not making any money selling that. Probably I don’t know how many
[15:26] frames the companies that are doing good in BMX sell but you know there’s nobody selling 20,000 frames a year. You know they might be lucky to sell 2,000. Yeah,
[15:34] I doubt it. But and the biggest problem is like this is a prime example when I got out of BMX and shut GHP down completely. We had probably 35 or 40
[15:43] support teams. They each had like anywhere from 5 to 20 riders. Like my my phone never rang. It’s just completely stopped. You have people that you think
[15:52] are your friends and you leave and it’s gone and you don’t hear from no one, you know? It’s like they’re off on somebody else’s camp to get free stuff and just for the hookup, you know? Oh, yeah. No,
[16:00] I I understand that from a different industry’s perspective, but yeah, get it. Yeah. I wouldn’t get back into BMX if somebody offered me all the money in
[16:09] the world. I would not do it, man. I’m glad you’re happy. super happy not being here, you know. Well, hey, I appreciate
[16:16] you taking the time to come on down and talk with me. No problem, man. It’s all good. When you’re ready to go, just let me know. Perfect. I’ll uh let me talk
[16:24] with the wife. We’ll talk about those things we talked about and then we’ll get back with you and hopefully talk again soon. Awesome. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. You, too. No. Bye. Okay.
[16:33] Bye. Bye.
[16:42] [Music]
[16:54] Yummy.