Fireside BMX Chat: Walk w/ Linda -Sister- to Harry Leary's "Havasu Memorial Walkway" Paver - Audio

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Lititz BMX is excited to announce the launch of a special new podcast episode, "Fireside BMX Chat," featuring a heartfelt conversation with Linda Leary Taylor, sister of the late BMX legend Harry Leary. The episode is co-hosted by Lititz BMX founder Kyle A. Huffman and his daughter, Anne-Marie Huffman. This unique podcast was recorded on the one-year anniversary of Harry Leary's passing.

The episode was recorded in a deeply personal setting, as the three of them walked across the London Bridge in Lake Havasu, Arizona. The conversation offers a rare, intimate look into the life of Harry Leary, moving beyond his public persona as a BMX superstar. Linda shares stories and memories, providing listeners with a genuine insight into who Harry was as a person—his humor, his relationships, and his personal struggles.
Highlights from the Conversation

The podcast covers a wide range of topics, including:

A brother's bond: Linda reflects on her earliest memories of Harry, describing him as her playmate and sharing how they formed a close bond due to their family situation.

The man behind the legend: Listeners will hear about Harry's complex relationships, his passions outside of BMX (including dancing!), and his love for dogs.

The love of his life: Linda opens up about Harry's relationship with Shelly, the love of his life, and the profound impact her passing had on him.

A lasting legacy: The conversation delves into Harry's journey with Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy (CTE) and Linda's desire to raise awareness about the condition within the BMX community.

A personal memento: The podcast reveals the story behind a signed number plate that originally belonged to Harry, Kyle acquired it and gave it to Greg Mathias, and then it was eventually given to Linda, who now considers it one of her most prized possessions.

The podcast concludes as Kyle, Anne-Marie, and Linda arrive at the Memorial Walk, where they find Harry's paver and reflect on his life and legacy. The episode is a touching tribute that celebrates Harry Leary not just as an icon, but as a brother, friend, and human being.

"This conversation was more than just a podcast; it was a journey of remembrance and healing," said Kyle A. Huffman. "Linda's willingness to share these personal stories with us has given a new dimension to Harry's legacy, one that I believe everyone who knew him—or who wants to know more about him—will appreciate."

"Fireside BMX Chat" with Linda Leary Taylor is now available on YouTube and other platforms with new platforms eyed for future releases. Short video reels from the podcast, featuring images that offer additional insight into Harry Leary's life, are also being released to complement the audio.

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and Amarie. Look at that. It's the London Bridge.
London Bridge. You know, like a song. Yeah.
You know, like a song. Yeah. Linda. Hey. Hey, Linda.
Linda. Hey. Hey, Linda. >> London Bridge. London Bridge is falling
>> London Bridge. London Bridge is falling down.
down. >> I've always heard the song. Always sung
>> I've always heard the song. Always sung the song and I've never seen it. This is
the song and I've never seen it. This is absolutely amazing.
absolutely amazing. >> It is. It's a beautiful bridge and it's
>> It is. It's a beautiful bridge and it's in a very beautiful spot. If you ever
in a very beautiful spot. If you ever get the chance to go to the Lake Havsu
get the chance to go to the Lake Havsu Museum, it gives you all the details on
Museum, it gives you all the details on how the bridge was moved over here, the
how the bridge was moved over here, the dates and what they had to do to get it
dates and what they had to do to get it over here. And it is supposedly haunted.
over here. And it is supposedly haunted. Just thought I'd throw that.
Just thought I'd throw that. >> Wait, the bridge or the museum?
>> Wait, the bridge or the museum? >> The bridge.
>> The bridge. >> Ah,
>> Ah, interesting.
interesting. >> Apparently, a lot of people have jumped
>> Apparently, a lot of people have jumped off the bridge. Not here in England. So,
off the bridge. Not here in England. So, >> choosing this London Bridge
>> choosing this London Bridge Harley-Davidson store as our meetup spot
Harley-Davidson store as our meetup spot was a good choice. It was pretty easy to
was a good choice. It was pretty easy to find. So, thanks for that.
find. So, thanks for that. >> Yeah, it is pretty easy to find. And the
>> Yeah, it is pretty easy to find. And the mall, I love this mall because, you
mall, I love this mall because, you know, of course, we've got some really
know, of course, we've got some really good food here, but cute little shops
good food here, but cute little shops and it's right on the water, so it's
and it's right on the water, so it's kind of cool.
kind of cool. >> We're going to have to check that out
>> We're going to have to check that out while we're here. What's interesting is
while we're here. What's interesting is my wife and I used to always go to
my wife and I used to always go to Harley-Davidson stores to collect decals
Harley-Davidson stores to collect decals for my father-in-law. Uh, so we always
for my father-in-law. Uh, so we always get a smile when we see one now. So, it
get a smile when we see one now. So, it it it turned out perfectly.
it it turned out perfectly. >> Oh, great. I'm glad.
>> Oh, great. I'm glad. >> Yeah. So, Amry is going to join us for
>> Yeah. So, Amry is going to join us for our walk today. I'm just going to let
our walk today. I'm just going to let she know this might be a little bit of a
she know this might be a little bit of a challenge. She's kind of still in that
challenge. She's kind of still in that toddling phase, but hopefully that's
toddling phase, but hopefully that's okay.
okay. >> That's okay.
>> That's okay. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> She'll love looking at the boats.
>> She'll love looking at the boats. >> I think so. The water.
>> I think so. The water. >> I think so. I'm excited to show her. All
>> I think so. I'm excited to show her. All right. Well, if you're ready, go ahead
right. Well, if you're ready, go ahead and lead the way.
and lead the way. >> Let's do it. Follow me this way. We're
>> Let's do it. Follow me this way. We're going to head over the bridge.
going to head over the bridge. >> Okay. Once we get over onto the other
>> Okay. Once we get over onto the other side, we're going to walk down a flight
side, we're going to walk down a flight of stairs, and I'm sure Amarie will
of stairs, and I'm sure Amarie will enjoy that as well.
enjoy that as well. >> Yeah. All right. Going to be fun, kiddo.
>> Yeah. All right. Going to be fun, kiddo. All right. We got a good little pace
All right. We got a good little pace here going. But hey, Linda, do you mind
here going. But hey, Linda, do you mind if I um kind of ask you a few questions
if I um kind of ask you a few questions kind of about Harry and kind of his past
kind of about Harry and kind of his past from more of a personal perspective, if
from more of a personal perspective, if you don't mind?
you don't mind? >> No, not at all. I'll answer them as
>> No, not at all. I'll answer them as honestly as I can and there may be
honestly as I can and there may be answers I'm not too sure of but
answers I'm not too sure of but >> understood.
>> understood. >> By all means that will work.
>> By all means that will work. >> Awesome. All right. Well, you're 18
>> Awesome. All right. Well, you're 18 months younger than Harry, right?
months younger than Harry, right? >> Yes.
>> Yes. >> And you also have a younger sister.
>> And you also have a younger sister. >> Yes.
>> Yes. >> And
>> And >> she is Oh god, she's two years younger
>> she is Oh god, she's two years younger than I am.
than I am. >> Oh, okay.
>> Oh, okay. >> Approximately. Yeah.
>> Approximately. Yeah. >> Okay. And from like a growing up
>> Okay. And from like a growing up perspective, what is the earliest memory
perspective, what is the earliest memory of your brother?
of your brother? >> The earliest memory I would say we had a
>> The earliest memory I would say we had a beagle dog fell in our pool and I
beagle dog fell in our pool and I remember Harry pulling the dog out of
remember Harry pulling the dog out of the pool and walking the dog into the
the pool and walking the dog into the house.
house. So I you know that is probably the first
So I you know that is probably the first memory.
memory. >> Wow.
>> Wow. >> Approximately four years old. But, you
>> Approximately four years old. But, you know, looking at pictures of us back in
know, looking at pictures of us back in when we were younger, it makes me think
when we were younger, it makes me think that I have earlier memories, but the
that I have earlier memories, but the one that is most vivid is watching Harry
one that is most vivid is watching Harry bring that dog in through the back door.
bring that dog in through the back door. >> Wow. Oh, that's that's a that's a vivid
>> Wow. Oh, that's that's a that's a vivid >> younger than four.
>> younger than four. >> But as the two of you grew up, how did
>> But as the two of you grew up, how did your relationship develop?
your relationship develop? >> Well, we were so close in age and he was
>> Well, we were so close in age and he was my playmate. We were always together,
my playmate. We were always together, sometimes fighting, most of the time.
sometimes fighting, most of the time. Not
Not >> too. Yeah.
>> too. Yeah. >> Yes. But growing up,
>> Yes. But growing up, once my sister came along, she was ill
once my sister came along, she was ill quite a bit.
quite a bit. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> And so my mother kind of spent a lot of
>> And so my mother kind of spent a lot of time with her. So Harry and I formed a
time with her. So Harry and I formed a bond.
bond. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And we were together a lot. And
>> And we were together a lot. And unfortunately my dad was in the picture
unfortunately my dad was in the picture but he was a very controlling strict
but he was a very controlling strict man.
man. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> But having said that as a family
>> But having said that as a family together we did a lot of camping,
together we did a lot of camping, >> traveling, boating. We did all of that.
>> traveling, boating. We did all of that. So as a young child I do remember those
So as a young child I do remember those times with Harry as well. So it's really
times with Harry as well. So it's really kind of hard to pinpoint any just any
kind of hard to pinpoint any just any one memory that I remember of my
one memory that I remember of my brother.
brother. >> Yeah. You know, I remember him riding
>> Yeah. You know, I remember him riding motorcycles at a very young age. We used
motorcycles at a very young age. We used to go motorcycle riding. So, there's
to go motorcycle riding. So, there's actually a lot. But because of my
actually a lot. But because of my sister, my mom spent a lot of time with
sister, my mom spent a lot of time with her. And so, Harry and I kind of grew
her. And so, Harry and I kind of grew closer and just hung out a lot together.
closer and just hung out a lot together. >> That's pretty awesome to be honest with
>> That's pretty awesome to be honest with you. So, if you could go back and spend
you. So, if you could go back and spend a day with Harry as kids before all of
a day with Harry as kids before all of this BMX stuff, how would you two have
this BMX stuff, how would you two have had the perfect day?
had the perfect day? >> Probably. There's one memory that just
>> Probably. There's one memory that just stands out because we used to joke
stands out because we used to joke around together all the time. There is a
around together all the time. There is a picture of us.
picture of us. >> I remember it so vividly. We had a push
>> I remember it so vividly. We had a push lawn mower and it was not a motor. It
lawn mower and it was not a motor. It was it was an old
was it was an old >> push. We had a push. And so we had a
>> push. We had a push. And so we had a pretty good sized front yard. So he was
pretty good sized front yard. So he was pushing the lawn mower and I was walking
pushing the lawn mower and I was walking behind him with a big stick off of the
behind him with a big stick off of the tree and I kept hitting him in the head
tree and I kept hitting him in the head with it.
with it. >> And so it took forever to get that lawn
>> And so it took forever to get that lawn mowed. But the whole time we just played
mowed. But the whole time we just played around and giggled and laughed. And so
around and giggled and laughed. And so yeah, it was a very fond memory because
yeah, it was a very fond memory because I could still see that vividly in my
I could still see that vividly in my head. And this was probably way before
head. And this was probably way before he started his BMX journey.
he started his BMX journey. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Not to say he wasn't already riding
>> Not to say he wasn't already riding because he was,
because he was, >> you know, I remember him jumping his
>> you know, I remember him jumping his bike before he even started BMX.
bike before he even started BMX. >> How so?
>> How so? >> You know, and I tried to jump one of his
>> You know, and I tried to jump one of his jumps that he was doing.
jumps that he was doing. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And I ended up flying over the
>> And I ended up flying over the handlebars and getting a concussion.
handlebars and getting a concussion. >> So I did not follow in my brother's
>> So I did not follow in my brother's footsteps. about my concerns.
footsteps. about my concerns. >> I was going to ask about your BMX
>> I was going to ask about your BMX career, but I guess that kind of answers
career, but I guess that kind of answers that one now.
that one now. >> And I did do one race with Shelly.
>> And I did do one race with Shelly. >> Oh, a Mother's Day race. And of course,
>> Oh, a Mother's Day race. And of course, she beat me, but she should have.
she beat me, but she should have. >> She was an avid BMXer, and that's
>> She was an avid BMXer, and that's actually how Harry met Shel. Okay.
actually how Harry met Shel. Okay. >> And as far as his younger BMX days, he
>> And as far as his younger BMX days, he used to go out there and have kids
used to go out there and have kids laying on the street in front of our
laying on the street in front of our house, and he would jump them with his
house, and he would jump them with his bike. Oh my goodness.
bike. Oh my goodness. >> And that's when people started coming
>> And that's when people started coming around.
around. >> Wow.
>> Wow. That's cool.
That's cool. >> Everybody used to meet at our house.
>> Everybody used to meet at our house. Always 10, 11 kids at our house with
Always 10, 11 kids at our house with their bikes riding.
their bikes riding. >> Approximate how old?
>> Approximate how old? >> We were in middle school.
>> We were in middle school. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> Elementary. Elementary school. In middle
>> Elementary. Elementary school. In middle school, I remember
school, I remember a race they had at the school.
a race they had at the school. >> Okay. And it was a bunch of kids at the
>> Okay. And it was a bunch of kids at the school got together and just did a race
school got together and just did a race around the field in the back of the
around the field in the back of the school. And Harry was so far ahead of
school. And Harry was so far ahead of the pack, it was ridiculous. And so
the pack, it was ridiculous. And so after that race, his reputation kind of
after that race, his reputation kind of grew.
grew. >> And then all through high school,
>> And then all through high school, everybody was in awe of him. And I
everybody was in awe of him. And I remember one thing that we had driver's
remember one thing that we had driver's education and they had this simulation
education and they had this simulation as to when you had to take your foot off
as to when you had to take your foot off of the the gas pedal and slam on the
of the the gas pedal and slam on the brakes.
brakes. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> And Harry Harry won that particular
>> And Harry Harry won that particular contest and all these kids were coming
contest and all these kids were coming out going, "Oh my god, your brother just
out going, "Oh my god, your brother just beat everybody." And on and on and on
beat everybody." And on and on and on and on. So I mean it was he had hero
and on. So I mean it was he had hero worship even in high school. No,
worship even in high school. No, I just darn near the beginning of his
I just darn near the beginning of his life at that point essentially, right?
life at that point essentially, right? >> Yeah. You know, he he tried baseball.
>> Yeah. You know, he he tried baseball. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> But nothing, you know, no sports really
>> But nothing, you know, no sports really took the place of his riding.
took the place of his riding. >> Interesting.
>> Interesting. >> And it was always his bikes. Always his
>> And it was always his bikes. Always his bikes.
bikes. >> Huh. So he he didn't start to ride to
>> Huh. So he he didn't start to ride to escape.
escape. >> He had some aggression.
>> He had some aggression. >> Sure. Even a copy of Harry's I think
>> Sure. Even a copy of Harry's I think it's his first grade report card.
it's his first grade report card. >> It talks about Harry's aggression on the
>> It talks about Harry's aggression on the playground.
playground. >> Oh my goodness.
>> Oh my goodness. >> And that if he would get rid of this
>> And that if he would get rid of this aggression, he could do better in
aggression, he could do better in school.
school. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> I don't remember him fighting a lot. I
>> I don't remember him fighting a lot. I do remember he and my father
do remember he and my father really struggling a lot. I mean, they
really struggling a lot. I mean, they kind of did not get along. And that
kind of did not get along. And that might have been the catalyst that threw
might have been the catalyst that threw him into his bike riding.
him into his bike riding. >> Wait, look at that, kiddo. We're about
>> Wait, look at that, kiddo. We're about to step foot on the bridge.
to step foot on the bridge. >> We're going on the bridge.
>> We're going on the bridge. >> We're going on the bridge. I read that
>> We're going on the bridge. I read that they brought this here in 71, I guess.
they brought this here in 71, I guess. >> Yeah. It was originally over in England.
>> Yeah. It was originally over in England. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And this whole canal
>> And this whole canal >> was completely dry. This all just they
>> was completely dry. This all just they blocked off all the water. Yeah. And so
blocked off all the water. Yeah. And so then once they built it because they're
then once they built it because they're they made an island which is where
they made an island which is where you're parked. You're actually parked
you're parked. You're actually parked >> on the island. Okay.
>> on the island. Okay. >> Is what they call it. And so the bridge
>> Is what they call it. And so the bridge goes over to the island. And honestly,
goes over to the island. And honestly, it's the only way right now at this
it's the only way right now at this point in time to get back and forth to
point in time to get back and forth to the island.
the island. >> If nothing ever happened
>> If nothing ever happened >> to the bridge, you would be stuck over
>> to the bridge, you would be stuck over there unless you had a boat and then you
there unless you had a boat and then you could take your boat. So
Oh man. Well, that's interesting. But I guess you know what you're getting
guess you know what you're getting yourself into when you kind of move
yourself into when you kind of move there, right?
there, right? >> Oh yeah, definitely.
>> Oh yeah, definitely. >> That heat. You get yourself into the
>> That heat. You get yourself into the heat.
heat. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. The heat. I can imagine.
>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. The heat. I can imagine. I actually, to be honest with you,
I actually, to be honest with you, almost didn't believe this existed, but
almost didn't believe this existed, but I'm definitely going to have to check
I'm definitely going to have to check out that museum. Everybody always says
out that museum. Everybody always says that I have a bridge to sell you, right?
that I have a bridge to sell you, right? Well, this one was actually sold and
Well, this one was actually sold and relocated from London. So, I'm kind of
relocated from London. So, I'm kind of ging. Yeah.
ging. Yeah. >> Oh, hey, something just popped into my
>> Oh, hey, something just popped into my head that I think I heard.
head that I think I heard. >> We were kind of talking about you as
>> We were kind of talking about you as kids, but Harry's first bike was
kids, but Harry's first bike was actually a horse. Am I getting that?
actually a horse. Am I getting that? >> It was I have a picture of him and he
>> It was I have a picture of him and he had been
had been >> not much older than one years old.
>> not much older than one years old. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> And it was a little brown horse with
>> And it was a little brown horse with wheels on it. And he used to ride that
wheels on it. And he used to ride that thing around the house.
thing around the house. >> I love it. Those were his first wheels.
>> I love it. Those were his first wheels. And then, you know, he moved up to a
And then, you know, he moved up to a tricycle and then a little bike. And
tricycle and then a little bike. And then, of course, we had Honda
then, of course, we had Honda motorcycles. We had an Honda 55 and a
motorcycles. We had an Honda 55 and a Honda 90 that we would take out to the
Honda 90 that we would take out to the desert and ride a lot. And Harry loved
desert and ride a lot. And Harry loved that. That's one thing he and my father
that. That's one thing he and my father did a lot of
did a lot of >> was motorcycle riding together.
>> was motorcycle riding together. >> So, that did bring them a little bit
>> So, that did bring them a little bit closer.
closer. >> That is awesome to to kind of hear that.
>> That is awesome to to kind of hear that. I mean, at least they had that as a
I mean, at least they had that as a strong bond. It sounds like I didn't
strong bond. It sounds like I didn't realize your dad rode before. I was
realize your dad rode before. I was That's new for me.
That's new for me. >> Oh yeah. No, my dad was heavily into
>> Oh yeah. No, my dad was heavily into motorcycles. He had an Indian.
motorcycles. He had an Indian. >> He had a Triumph and so we did some
>> He had a Triumph and so we did some street riding.
street riding. >> But yeah, my dad was into a lot of
>> But yeah, my dad was into a lot of things like that. You know, as a family,
things like that. You know, as a family, we traveled a lot. We did a lot. And so
we traveled a lot. We did a lot. And so we were very close that way. But because
we were very close that way. But because Harry and I were so close in age as even
Harry and I were so close in age as even as we grew older, I think that's why we
as we grew older, I think that's why we were always so close growing up was
were always so close growing up was because of the age difference.
because of the age difference. >> That makes sense. Yeah.
>> That makes sense. Yeah. >> My brother and my younger sister were
>> My brother and my younger sister were never really close. My sister and I
never really close. My sister and I were. So it just I think the age
were. So it just I think the age difference played a big part and tried
difference played a big part and tried to keep up with Harry. So that made it
to keep up with Harry. So that made it so that he and I were closer.
so that he and I were closer. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And I did. I chased Harry a lot. I tried
>> And I did. I chased Harry a lot. I tried to keep up with him and do everything he
to keep up with him and do everything he did. And I got to where he was irritated
did. And I got to where he was irritated with his sister because there
with his sister because there >> and I totally get that. You know, who
>> and I totally get that. You know, who wants your sister around all the time?
wants your sister around all the time? >> Yeah, exactly.
>> Yeah, exactly. >> Oh,
>> Oh, yeah. Is that a paddle boarder?
yeah. Is that a paddle boarder? >> Yeah,
>> Yeah, >> there's a lot of them here. I love
>> there's a lot of them here. I love >> There are
>> There are >> That's That's right.
>> That's That's right. >> That's so funny.
>> That's so funny. Did your brother paddle board?
Did your brother paddle board? >> He did a few times. I don't think it was
>> He did a few times. I don't think it was his forte only because it wasn't
his forte only because it wasn't dangerous enough and it was not fast
dangerous enough and it was not fast enough.
enough. >> Fair enough.
>> Fair enough. >> So, and it didn't have wheels. There was
>> So, and it didn't have wheels. There was a problem. It had didn't have wheels.
a problem. It had didn't have wheels. >> Oh, I love it. So, speaking of wheels,
>> Oh, I love it. So, speaking of wheels, um he worked at a Schwin
um he worked at a Schwin bike store, if I'm not mistaken, called
bike store, if I'm not mistaken, called Coats. Do you remember much about that
Coats. Do you remember much about that at all or anything about the Schwin
at all or anything about the Schwin days?
days? >> I do not remember the name of the Schwin
>> I do not remember the name of the Schwin shop, but I do remember him working for
shop, but I do remember him working for Schwin.
Schwin. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> And that was his first bike shop. And I
>> And that was his first bike shop. And I think that's honestly where he learned
think that's honestly where he learned to really work on his bikes.
to really work on his bikes. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> You know, and then he went from Schwin
>> You know, and then he went from Schwin to JMC.
to JMC. >> And I remember in relationship to where
>> And I remember in relationship to where we work lived, it was kind of far away.
we work lived, it was kind of far away. And so he had to ride his bike to work
And so he had to ride his bike to work every day back and forth and he loved it
every day back and forth and he loved it and that's just what he did. He loved
and that's just what he did. He loved working for Schwin. Yeah. And then he
working for Schwin. Yeah. And then he went to JMC
went to JMC >> and at that point he raced for JMC but
>> and at that point he raced for JMC but then he went to Diamondback. In between
then he went to Diamondback. In between those times honestly
those times honestly >> I know he raced but again as Harry got
>> I know he raced but again as Harry got older he didn't really want his sister
older he didn't really want his sister following him around. So you know I got
following him around. So you know I got my own life. He had his, but I'm still
my own life. He had his, but I'm still really close.
really close. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> There were some things that I just was
>> There were some things that I just was not,
not, >> you know, it's like, "No, you're not
>> you know, it's like, "No, you're not coming." I got that a lot.
coming." I got that a lot. >> Nah, I get that. I I have a younger
>> Nah, I get that. I I have a younger sister as well, so I totally understand.
sister as well, so I totally understand. >> Do you mind if we take a quick water
>> Do you mind if we take a quick water break and take a quick view break?
break and take a quick view break? >> No, not at all.
>> No, not at all. >> Cool.
>> Cool. >> Hey, there you go, K.
>> Hey, there you go, K. >> And you see the flags up here? They have
>> And you see the flags up here? They have the English flag along.
the English flag along. >> Wow. So they're all up along the whole
>> Wow. So they're all up along the whole bridge here. You can see
bridge here. You can see >> that is really cool. The Union Jack,
>> that is really cool. The Union Jack, right?
right? >> Yeah. It's It's just kind of cool to see
>> Yeah. It's It's just kind of cool to see both of them.
both of them. >> I think it sounds great.
>> I think it sounds great. >> Down the bridge.
>> Down the bridge. >> Puts things kind of into perspective
>> Puts things kind of into perspective with regards to the travels that this
with regards to the travels that this bridge took,
bridge took, >> right? Yeah. You should really look up
>> right? Yeah. You should really look up the research on it. It's amazing.
the research on it. It's amazing. >> Yeah, definitely. Interesting.
>> Yeah, definitely. Interesting. >> All right. Yeah. So this those flags,
>> All right. Yeah. So this those flags, you see that? Cuz remember we're on the
you see that? Cuz remember we're on the London Bridge. Yeah. Like Yeah. Like
London Bridge. Yeah. Like Yeah. Like London Bridge is falling. No. Don't
London Bridge is falling. No. Don't Don't
Don't >> Exactly. Falling down.
>> Exactly. Falling down. >> Falling down. No. All right. I tried to
>> Falling down. No. All right. I tried to get her to go with me, but I swear she
get her to go with me, but I swear she normally likes my singing. Um
normally likes my singing. Um >> Yeah, she she does. Oh, look at that. A
>> Yeah, she she does. Oh, look at that. A boatload of half naked ladies. That's
boatload of half naked ladies. That's >> Yeah, you'll see a lot of that. All
>> Yeah, you'll see a lot of that. All right.
right. >> On three-day weekends and
>> On three-day weekends and >> loved that part of Lake Havsu, of
>> loved that part of Lake Havsu, of course.
course. >> Oh, it's hilarious. All right, kid. Are
>> Oh, it's hilarious. All right, kid. Are you ready? Close the bottle.
you ready? Close the bottle. Okay, great. Well, let's get going.
Okay, great. Well, let's get going. >> Here we go.
>> Here we go. >> There we go. So, then Harry started to
>> There we go. So, then Harry started to ride for JMC. He turned professional. He
ride for JMC. He turned professional. He went to Diamond Back. Is there anything
went to Diamond Back. Is there anything that kind of stands out to you in that
that kind of stands out to you in that JMC to Diamond Back transition in
JMC to Diamond Back transition in Harry's life?
Harry's life? >> Oh gosh. No.
>> Oh gosh. No. You know, I just The only thing that
You know, I just The only thing that stands out in my mind is he was gone.
stands out in my mind is he was gone. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Once he went with Diamond Back, that was
>> Once he went with Diamond Back, that was it. He was gone. He honestly when he I
it. He was gone. He honestly when he I believe when he was with JMC,
believe when he was with JMC, he met Jamie.
he met Jamie. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> Which was his very very first love. And
>> Which was his very very first love. And because of the animosity between my
because of the animosity between my brother and my father,
brother and my father, >> he ended up moving and living with her
>> he ended up moving and living with her parents.
parents. >> And that was about the time I believed
>> And that was about the time I believed between the JMC and the Diamond Back.
between the JMC and the Diamond Back. And then so once he started racing
And then so once he started racing Diamond Back, he traveled and he was
Diamond Back, he traveled and he was gone. And so I very rarely saw him and
gone. And so I very rarely saw him and we kind of lost touch in those years
we kind of lost touch in those years that he was with Diamond Back,
that he was with Diamond Back, >> but he did eventually return to the
>> but he did eventually return to the family.
family. >> He did. There was animosity because my
>> He did. There was animosity because my mother and my father did not want him
mother and my father did not want him moving out. You couldn't stop him. He
moving out. You couldn't stop him. He was on his own. He was making a living.
was on his own. He was making a living. He was doing what he wanted to do. And
He was doing what he wanted to do. And as far as the family was concerned,
as far as the family was concerned, yeah, he would stop by and but he and my
yeah, he would stop by and but he and my father never really
father never really got a relationship back after that. It
got a relationship back after that. It was kind of severed.
was kind of severed. >> Yeah. Then my brother and I, we were
>> Yeah. Then my brother and I, we were always close, but that period in his
always close, but that period in his life, he's got this young person who is
life, he's got this young person who is gifted and he's in charge of a team and
gifted and he's in charge of a team and he's traveling, he's making money. And
he's traveling, he's making money. And at that age,
at that age, I mean, they don't usually look back.
I mean, they don't usually look back. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And I think he did at that point. I
>> And I think he did at that point. I think he was gonna do it for himself.
think he was gonna do it for himself. And I believe that he felt that my
And I believe that he felt that my father,
father, >> not so much my mother, but that my
>> not so much my mother, but that my father was holding him back for
father was holding him back for achieving his dreams.
achieving his dreams. >> Because they never felt that he was
>> Because they never felt that he was going to go anywhere in bikes.
going to go anywhere in bikes. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> They wanted him to go to college and
>> They wanted him to go to college and Harry did not go to college.
Harry did not go to college. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And if he didn't do my dad, you know,
>> And if he didn't do my dad, you know, wanted him to do this that and the other
wanted him to do this that and the other thing and Harry pretty much said screw
thing and Harry pretty much said screw you and do what I want to do. And at
you and do what I want to do. And at that point, I think a lot of Harry's
that point, I think a lot of Harry's drive
drive >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. >> came from the fact that he was going to
>> came from the fact that he was going to prove his family wrong. His family
prove his family wrong. His family meaning his father. And I think that
meaning his father. And I think that honestly is what kind of
honestly is what kind of >> sent Harry in his driven direction.
>> sent Harry in his driven direction. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> But then I believe once he found out
>> But then I believe once he found out just how good he was and the world found
just how good he was and the world found out how good he was, that's when he took
out how good he was, that's when he took off.
off. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And I think his drive came from another
>> And I think his drive came from another direction.
direction. But he came back and you mentioned
But he came back and you mentioned Jamie.
Jamie. I have don't know very much about Jamie
I have don't know very much about Jamie or any of the other women in his life,
or any of the other women in his life, but I believe he was married twice and I
but I believe he was married twice and I thought he was married to Jamie as well,
thought he was married to Jamie as well, but I guess I could have gotten that
but I guess I could have gotten that wrong.
wrong. >> No, actually he did marry Jamie.
>> No, actually he did marry Jamie. >> Oh, he was married to Jamie. Let's see.
>> Oh, he was married to Jamie. Let's see. He married Denise. That was his first
He married Denise. That was his first wife. Okay.
wife. Okay. >> And they divorced and then he met
>> And they divorced and then he met Alicia, which is Briana's mother,
Alicia, which is Briana's mother, Harry's daughter. And then they were
Harry's daughter. And then they were married for I'm going to say two to
married for I'm going to say two to three years. And then they divorced. And
three years. And then they divorced. And Harry was by himself for quite some
Harry was by himself for quite some time.
time. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And he and Jamie hooked up again and he
>> And he and Jamie hooked up again and he ended up marrying Jamie.
ended up marrying Jamie. >> Ah, okay.
>> Ah, okay. >> So he was married three times. After
>> So he was married three times. After Jamie, he met Shelly, and Shelly was the
Jamie, he met Shelly, and Shelly was the love of his life.
love of his life. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Shelley and Harry never did marry
>> Shelley and Harry never did marry because Shelley was married to a
because Shelley was married to a military person who died of cancer.
military person who died of cancer. >> So, she had a whole lot of benefits.
>> So, she had a whole lot of benefits. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> That she would lose if she married.
>> That she would lose if she married. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> And thank God she didn't because she
>> And thank God she didn't because she became terminally ill.
became terminally ill. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And then we lost her to pancreatic
>> And then we lost her to pancreatic cancer. And at that point it was Harry's
cancer. And at that point it was Harry's spiral I believe started that's what
spiral I believe started that's what started his spiral.
started his spiral. >> That makes sense.
>> That makes sense. >> His anger his anger issues was when he
>> His anger his anger issues was when he lost Shelly.
lost Shelly. >> That makes sense. I can't imagine having
>> That makes sense. I can't imagine having the love of my life ripped away like
the love of my life ripped away like that.
that. >> Yeah. No, we were all there. Harry stuck
>> Yeah. No, we were all there. Harry stuck by her side. He was her rock. He took
by her side. He was her rock. He took care of her. Um it was a long and
care of her. Um it was a long and painful illness and when she passed
painful illness and when she passed something left with Harry as well.
something left with Harry as well. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Shel was around when he had his track.
>> Shel was around when he had his track. He met Shel through and I wish I could
He met Shel through and I wish I could remember his name. The guy was at the
remember his name. The guy was at the celebration of life with Harry and for
celebration of life with Harry and for the life of me I can't remember his
the life of me I can't remember his name. Introduced Harry and Shel
name. Introduced Harry and Shel together.
together. >> Oh wow.
>> Oh wow. >> They hit it off and they both raced.
>> They hit it off and they both raced. Harry trained Shelly and then they had
Harry trained Shelly and then they had the track and Shelley was there and then
the track and Shelley was there and then she passed and then at that point kind
she passed and then at that point kind of I don't want to say went off the deep
of I don't want to say went off the deep end but you know we lost touch again.
end but you know we lost touch again. >> Sure. Okay. I appreciate you sharing
>> Sure. Okay. I appreciate you sharing about that. I don't know much about
about that. I don't know much about Shelly and as I said I don't know much
Shelly and as I said I don't know much about Jamie but there's a couple of
about Jamie but there's a couple of things I have learned and I guess kind
things I have learned and I guess kind of a backstory of how I learned of
of a backstory of how I learned of Shelly was that I actually had a signed
Shelly was that I actually had a signed number plate to Shelly from Harry and I
number plate to Shelly from Harry and I gave it to our friend Greg Matias. Well,
gave it to our friend Greg Matias. Well, I have to tell you, I am now in
I have to tell you, I am now in possession of that license, that plate.
possession of that license, that plate. God gave it to me,
God gave it to me, >> and it is one of my most treasured
>> and it is one of my most treasured possessions at this time because Shelly
possessions at this time because Shelly was like my sister.
was like my sister. >> My goodness.
>> My goodness. >> And when I saw that, I believe it said
>> And when I saw that, I believe it said to my girl, Shelly.
to my girl, Shelly. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And I just started crying when I saw it
>> And I just started crying when I saw it because it was very heartfelt. And I did
because it was very heartfelt. And I did not know that you were originally in
not know that you were originally in possession of that.
possession of that. >> Oh, yes, ma'am. That was mine to gray.
>> Oh, yes, ma'am. That was mine to gray. So,
So, >> well, I hope you don't mind. It ended up
>> well, I hope you don't mind. It ended up with Harry Sisters.
with Harry Sisters. >> I'm hoping for the right home for the
>> I'm hoping for the right home for the right things.
right things. >> How did you come across it?
>> How did you come across it? >> I bought it on eBay.
>> I bought it on eBay. >> Oh, you did?
>> Oh, you did? >> Just like everything. I'm buying all my
>> Just like everything. I'm buying all my stuff online for the most part. So, I go
stuff online for the most part. So, I go between BMX Museum and eBay and and
between BMX Museum and eBay and and that's how I got that one.
that's how I got that one. >> Wow. That's Thank you very much.
>> Wow. That's Thank you very much. >> You're welcome.
>> You're welcome. >> So, yeah, Shel was a great person. We
>> So, yeah, Shel was a great person. We did a lot of voting, the all of us
did a lot of voting, the all of us together. a lot of camping, motorcycle
together. a lot of camping, motorcycle riding, and I ended up buying Shelley's
riding, and I ended up buying Shelley's bike from Harry after she passed.
bike from Harry after she passed. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> She had a Honda 230 CRF. And so I ended
>> She had a Honda 230 CRF. And so I ended up with that bike.
up with that bike. >> Wow.
>> Wow. >> And then I bought
>> And then I bought >> a 400 off of Harry for my son.
>> a 400 off of Harry for my son. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> So we all rode red bikes.
>> So we all rode red bikes. >> Everybody rode red all the way.
>> Everybody rode red all the way. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> That is awesome. I've seen the ride red
>> That is awesome. I've seen the ride red stickers on his bikes and it's pretty
stickers on his bikes and it's pretty fun.
fun. >> Yeah. I was always red bikes for sure. I
>> Yeah. I was always red bikes for sure. I mean, he grew up with Hondas, so that
mean, he grew up with Hondas, so that was all all we rode.
was all all we rode. >> That's awesome. Besides riding, I know
>> That's awesome. Besides riding, I know he had a hobby that you haven't
he had a hobby that you haven't mentioned yet to be honest with you, and
mentioned yet to be honest with you, and that's dancing. And here's how I know on
that's dancing. And here's how I know on it. For the same reason I know about
it. For the same reason I know about Jamie, and it's because Jamie said that
Jamie, and it's because Jamie said that he was a dancer and had very wonderful
he was a dancer and had very wonderful things to say about him. And the dancing
things to say about him. And the dancing really got my attention.
really got my attention. Both Harry and I have a hell of a lot of
Both Harry and I have a hell of a lot of rhythm.
rhythm. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Um and he could definitely dance.
>> Um and he could definitely dance. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And so as far as a hobby,
>> And so as far as a hobby, >> I've seen he would I mean when he lived
>> I've seen he would I mean when he lived here, we would have the music going.
here, we would have the music going. >> Yeah. Yeah, we would be dancing through
>> Yeah. Yeah, we would be dancing through the house and at his wedding he was
the house and at his wedding he was dancing and my sister and my brother and
dancing and my sister and my brother and I, all three of us were out on the dance
I, all three of us were out on the dance floor and we provided quite the sight,
floor and we provided quite the sight, I'll tell you.
I'll tell you. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> So, yeah, he really could. And after
>> So, yeah, he really could. And after talking to Jamie, I didn't realize that
talking to Jamie, I didn't realize that Harry had such a romantic nature.
Harry had such a romantic nature. >> Oh, you didn't see that his sister
>> Oh, you didn't see that his sister though, so I mean that makes sense,
though, so I mean that makes sense, >> right? Yeah. I have found out a lot
>> right? Yeah. I have found out a lot about my brother since he passed. A lot
about my brother since he passed. A lot of things I did not know that made him
of things I did not know that made him more more human,
more more human, I guess you could say.
I guess you could say. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> And just more in depth to his caring
>> And just more in depth to his caring nature because he was a very loving
nature because he was a very loving person and the women in his life, he's
person and the women in his life, he's had some bad ones.
had some bad ones. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> And I know Harry's not the easiest
>> And I know Harry's not the easiest person to live with. And honestly, as
person to live with. And honestly, as his CTE
his CTE progressed, his
progressed, his anger, his paranoia, those things
anger, his paranoia, those things started to get worse
started to get worse and it took its toll on our family,
and it took its toll on our family, >> of course,
>> of course, >> on his relationships.
>> on his relationships. Originally, everybody thought, well,
Originally, everybody thought, well, he's using drugs. But at this point,
he's using drugs. But at this point, knowing what I know now about CTE,
knowing what I know now about CTE, >> yeah,
>> yeah, >> I don't believe that was the case any
>> I don't believe that was the case any longer. I completely believe that the
longer. I completely believe that the CTE took control of him. Not saying that
CTE took control of him. Not saying that he didn't have his demons, but
he didn't have his demons, but it was getting worse as he was getting
it was getting worse as he was getting older.
older. >> That's kind of the story I've heard and
>> That's kind of the story I've heard and understanding that I have to be honest
understanding that I have to be honest with you. And he has thankfully led me
with you. And he has thankfully led me to
to learn more and educate myself more about
learn more and educate myself more about CT. And if nothing else, I appreciate
CT. And if nothing else, I appreciate that insight.
that insight. >> Yeah. And you know, I not to change the
>> Yeah. And you know, I not to change the subject, I really
subject, I really >> I and I'm not really sure the avenues to
>> I and I'm not really sure the avenues to take at this point, but I would like to
take at this point, but I would like to do something in Harry's name to help
do something in Harry's name to help other people with CTE,
other people with CTE, particularly in the BMX world.
particularly in the BMX world. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> To open up doors. There might be people
>> To open up doors. There might be people out there with the same symptoms Harry
out there with the same symptoms Harry had.
had. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> That have no clue as to why they're
>> That have no clue as to why they're feeling the way they're feeling.
feeling the way they're feeling. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> They may think that they're crazy, but
>> They may think that they're crazy, but that's not the case.
that's not the case. >> It's a disease. They have a form of
>> It's a disease. They have a form of brain damage.
brain damage. >> And I'm not even sure how to go about
>> And I'm not even sure how to go about it.
it. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> I just feel that God will open the doors
>> I just feel that God will open the doors up for me when the time is right. And I
up for me when the time is right. And I just feel that
just feel that there's more meaning to Harry's death
there's more meaning to Harry's death than what is happening at this point in
than what is happening at this point in time. There's more.
time. There's more. >> Well, I believe that and I wouldn't be
>> Well, I believe that and I wouldn't be here having this conversation with you
here having this conversation with you if I didn't wholeheartedly believe that.
if I didn't wholeheartedly believe that. So
So yeah,
yeah, >> it would add meaning to his life and
>> it would add meaning to his life and make the legend Harry Liry the legend
make the legend Harry Liry the legend live on in as much as people could think
live on in as much as people could think of him more along the lines of well he
of him more along the lines of well he had CTE but look at what he's done in
had CTE but look at what he's done in awareness of that disease.
awareness of that disease. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Because of him. And that's kind of what
>> Because of him. And that's kind of what I want. I want to bring on awareness of
I want. I want to bring on awareness of this disease
this disease and have Harry be the catalyst of it
and have Harry be the catalyst of it because because of his name, because he
because because of his name, because he was so well known, because of his
was so well known, because of his history and his stories and the haters
history and his stories and the haters in the world, it just would be nice to
in the world, it just would be nice to be able to look back on him and say,
be able to look back on him and say, well, you know, because of him,
well, you know, because of him, >> we were able to find out this and it
>> we were able to find out this and it saved children,
saved children, saved other writers. They may have gone
saved other writers. They may have gone in and gotten checked, you know, who
in and gotten checked, you know, who knows?
knows? >> Yeah, I think it's the right path. I
>> Yeah, I think it's the right path. I think that God will show you the way to
think that God will show you the way to that. And I think it's an amazing
that. And I think it's an amazing goal.
goal. >> Yeah. Yeah. I just am not sure how to go
>> Yeah. Yeah. I just am not sure how to go about it, but
about it, but >> we can put some smart heads together.
>> we can put some smart heads together. >> Yeah, we will.
>> Yeah, we will. >> There you go. Love it. Oh, but ah, you
>> There you go. Love it. Oh, but ah, you love it too, huh?
love it too, huh? >> Yeah.
Oh, but I kind of get it cuz I was on Harry's side a little, you know, at the
Harry's side a little, you know, at the the age of 39, I got diagnosed bipolar
the age of 39, I got diagnosed bipolar one and my world got turned upside down
one and my world got turned upside down and I'm seven years past that. Barely
and I'm seven years past that. Barely getting past that. It's not easy and my
getting past that. It's not easy and my heart is out to anybody afflicted like
heart is out to anybody afflicted like this.
this. Well, the problem with that kind of an
Well, the problem with that kind of an affliction is unless you are diagnosed,
affliction is unless you are diagnosed, you don't know what the problem is.
you don't know what the problem is. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> You automatically think something is
>> You automatically think something is horribly wrong with you. And a lot of
horribly wrong with you. And a lot of people will turn to
people will turn to drug or some outside source. It's going
drug or some outside source. It's going to make you feel better and make you
to make you feel better and make you forget.
forget. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And it's an illness that brings on
>> And it's an illness that brings on addictions.
addictions. >> Yeah. that brings on other bad behavior.
>> Yeah. that brings on other bad behavior. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And I don't think that the general
>> And I don't think that the general population in the BMX world who knew
population in the BMX world who knew Harry ever thought past that. I think
Harry ever thought past that. I think they looked at Harry as a star, a BMX
they looked at Harry as a star, a BMX legend, and he had a certain protocol he
legend, and he had a certain protocol he was supposed to follow, and whenever he
was supposed to follow, and whenever he fell off of what people felt that he
fell off of what people felt that he should be,
should be, >> it didn't look good. But they never
>> it didn't look good. But they never delved into, well, what if he has this
delved into, well, what if he has this problem? Maybe there's something wrong.
problem? Maybe there's something wrong. Maybe there is more to Harry Liry than
Maybe there is more to Harry Liry than what everybody thinks there is.
what everybody thinks there is. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And there was.
>> And there was. >> Yeah, there absolutely was. And I
>> Yeah, there absolutely was. And I believe that. Out of curiosity, if you
believe that. Out of curiosity, if you don't mind framing this for me, we've
don't mind framing this for me, we've kind of touched on some things, but in
kind of touched on some things, but in many instances, I see that the vast
many instances, I see that the vast majority of his supporters are women.
majority of his supporters are women. and have heard wonderful things about
and have heard wonderful things about Harry with children as well. Yet I see
Harry with children as well. Yet I see kind of so many scary weary stories that
kind of so many scary weary stories that from people are outsiders in my opinion.
from people are outsiders in my opinion. How is that true that the it seems like
How is that true that the it seems like so many of the women on the inside of
so many of the women on the inside of his circle wholeheartedly support him
his circle wholeheartedly support him still? Even Jamie?
still? Even Jamie? >> Yeah, even Jamie. Jamie is a great gal.
>> Yeah, even Jamie. Jamie is a great gal. I consider her my sister as well because
I consider her my sister as well because she was Yeah,
she was Yeah, >> she was my sister-in-law and there's
>> she was my sister-in-law and there's some women that would probably say
some women that would probably say otherwise as to Harry, but he was kind.
otherwise as to Harry, but he was kind. I think his kindness came out in
I think his kindness came out in children,
children, dogs, and women. Not so much in the male
dogs, and women. Not so much in the male population because he was so
population because he was so competitive.
competitive. >> Exactly. He was the alpha. Right.
>> Exactly. He was the alpha. Right. >> Exactly. And I think a lot of it was
>> Exactly. And I think a lot of it was being that competitive
being that competitive and you're racing other people and
and you're racing other people and you're constantly winning, you're going
you're constantly winning, you're going to have haters. And I think that Harry
to have haters. And I think that Harry more or less
more or less >> gravitated towards women cuz the men
>> gravitated towards women cuz the men looked at him more like a competitor.
looked at him more like a competitor. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> He had some good friends. I'm not going
>> He had some good friends. I'm not going to say that. You know, Eddie King, Clint
to say that. You know, Eddie King, Clint Miller, Greg at the end was there for
Miller, Greg at the end was there for the last eight months of Harry's life.
the last eight months of Harry's life. And Harry made a huge impact on Greg.
And Harry made a huge impact on Greg. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And the kindness that Harry showed Greg
>> And the kindness that Harry showed Greg is something that Greg will always
is something that Greg will always remember. And there was a kindness to
remember. And there was a kindness to Harry that a lot of people never saw.
Harry that a lot of people never saw. >> Yeah. I've learned that. It's kind of
>> Yeah. I've learned that. It's kind of cool to be honest with you.
cool to be honest with you. >> Far as gravitating towards the women,
>> Far as gravitating towards the women, how women felt about him.
how women felt about him. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> He was very open.
>> He was very open. >> True. and could easily talk to women
>> True. and could easily talk to women more so than he could to most men. And
more so than he could to most men. And so it was easier to open up his feelings
so it was easier to open up his feelings to women and talking a certain amount of
to women and talking a certain amount of the women that were in his life that I
the women that were in his life that I personally knew.
personally knew. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> He left his mark on all of them.
>> He left his mark on all of them. >> That's what I've seen. It's amazing to
>> That's what I've seen. It's amazing to see.
see. >> It really is. I've become very good
>> It really is. I've become very good friends with Die and Doy was a very
friends with Die and Doy was a very special friend to Harry's and so I do
special friend to Harry's and so I do too. Harry thought so highly of Doie and
too. Harry thought so highly of Doie and she was around for quite a long time and
she was around for quite a long time and they were very good friends. They tried
they were very good friends. They tried a relationship, it didn't work, but they
a relationship, it didn't work, but they remained best friends and she was always
remained best friends and she was always there for him and he was there for her.
there for him and he was there for her. >> That's amazing. She actually sent me
>> That's amazing. She actually sent me some decals. I don't know about two
some decals. I don't know about two months ago that she had left over from
months ago that she had left over from Dirt Works. It was really cool. Really
Dirt Works. It was really cool. Really nice note and it was really sweet of
nice note and it was really sweet of her. She is an absolute sweetheart and I
her. She is an absolute sweetheart and I know Mike Miller speaks the world of
know Mike Miller speaks the world of her.
her. >> Oh yeah. She and Harry owned that track
>> Oh yeah. She and Harry owned that track >> and Mike Miller was the announcer at
>> and Mike Miller was the announcer at Harry's track.
Harry's track. >> Yep.
>> Yep. >> And I was the snack bar lady.
>> And I was the snack bar lady. >> I love it.
>> I love it. >> No, I'm actually reading Mike's book
>> No, I'm actually reading Mike's book right now.
right now. >> Are you really? I'm doing a book club
>> Are you really? I'm doing a book club event series on his book right now.
event series on his book right now. Yeah, it's pretty fun.
Yeah, it's pretty fun. >> Oh, wow. I would like to read that.
>> Oh, wow. I would like to read that. >> Yeah, yeah, I'll shoot you over some
>> Yeah, yeah, I'll shoot you over some info on it.
info on it. >> I even actually thought about writing
>> I even actually thought about writing and getting together with the the people
and getting together with the the people who could fill in the blanks.
who could fill in the blanks. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> An autobiography of Harry.
>> An autobiography of Harry. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> But I am not a writer.
>> But I am not a writer. >> But there is now other ways that you
>> But there is now other ways that you could write books.
could write books. I would be honored to be able to help
I would be honored to be able to help you as best I can. I don't know what
you as best I can. I don't know what that means, but I think you're on the
that means, but I think you're on the right track with kind of filling those
right track with kind of filling those blanks and getting the story out there.
blanks and getting the story out there. I think it could be done.
I think it could be done. >> I think so, too, because there's certain
>> I think so, too, because there's certain avenues that I am now aware of that I
avenues that I am now aware of that I can utilize to fill in the time span.
can utilize to fill in the time span. >> You know, Gork from USAB Next would be a
>> You know, Gork from USAB Next would be a good source of information.
good source of information. >> Yep. Absolutely. He's been great. I made
>> Yep. Absolutely. He's been great. I made a donation to them and the and Gor did
a donation to them and the and Gor did the unboxing for it. It was really fun
the unboxing for it. It was really fun working with him over that.
working with him over that. >> Well, you know, I have to tell you, I
>> Well, you know, I have to tell you, I just today
just today >> Eddie King is going to be at the the
>> Eddie King is going to be at the the Hall of Fame in September,
Hall of Fame in September, >> and I was going to try to go, but it
>> and I was going to try to go, but it didn't work out. However, I did just
didn't work out. However, I did just today mail him an urn with Harry's ashes
today mail him an urn with Harry's ashes on it that he's going to give to Gork
on it that he's going to give to Gork >> in September. So, which I thought was
>> in September. So, which I thought was >> it needed to be there, you know, needed
>> it needed to be there, you know, needed to come there.
to come there. >> He won't be the first set of ashes
>> He won't be the first set of ashes there.
there. >> That's what Eddie was telling.
>> That's what Eddie was telling. >> He will not be the first.
>> He will not be the first. >> And I think he just needs to be there.
>> And I think he just needs to be there. >> I absolutely love it. Yeah. And look,
>> I absolutely love it. Yeah. And look, there's hot air balloon.
there's hot air balloon. >> Yeah, we did a lot of those here. They
>> Yeah, we did a lot of those here. They have them in March, more or less. And
have them in March, more or less. And January, February, there's a hot air
January, February, there's a hot air balloon festival out. Oh,
balloon festival out. Oh, >> and they're huge out here.
>> and they're huge out here. >> Okay. And so I guess this maybe lead to
>> Okay. And so I guess this maybe lead to a question I I have about Harry. So if I
a question I I have about Harry. So if I had a parachute for Harry to jump out of
had a parachute for Harry to jump out of a hot air balloon on his bike, would he
a hot air balloon on his bike, would he have taken me up on the opportunity?
have taken me up on the opportunity? >> Yes.
>> Yes. >> I love it.
>> I love it. >> For sure. And let me tell you, Harry
>> For sure. And let me tell you, Harry said that if he ever got terminally ill,
said that if he ever got terminally ill, >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> he would never let his family know. What
>> he would never let his family know. What he would do is he would take his bike
he would do is he would take his bike and ride it off of the Grand Canyon to
and ride it off of the Grand Canyon to end his life.
end his life. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> So that was like Harry's ultimate. And
>> So that was like Harry's ultimate. And he used to talk about it all the time. I
he used to talk about it all the time. I said, "You know, you're stupid. You're
said, "You know, you're stupid. You're just stupid. Don't even talk about it."
just stupid. Don't even talk about it." But yeah, he would do any crazy stupid
But yeah, he would do any crazy stupid thing like that.
thing like that. >> Yeah. Wow. That that would have been fun
>> Yeah. Wow. That that would have been fun to see though.
to see though. So, it's been a year since Harry passed.
So, it's been a year since Harry passed. >> It's a year today.
>> It's a year today. >> Oh. Oh, wow.
>> Oh. Oh, wow. >> Exactly today.
>> Exactly today. >> Wow.
>> Wow. >> Is when I need to touch on this a little
>> Is when I need to touch on this a little bit is when the police showed up at my
bit is when the police showed up at my front door.
front door. >> But I believe that he passed on the 5th
>> But I believe that he passed on the 5th of September. Yes.
of September. Yes. >> And the 7th is what's on his death
>> And the 7th is what's on his death certificate. And it's when they found
certificate. And it's when they found him.
him. >> Oh. Oh, okay.
>> Oh. Oh, okay. >> 10:30 in the morning on September 7th. A
>> 10:30 in the morning on September 7th. A year ago today.
year ago today. >> Wow. One year ago today. That's
>> Wow. One year ago today. That's Do you mind if we talk a little bit more
Do you mind if we talk a little bit more about kind of that life since then? How
about kind of that life since then? How things have been?
things have been? >> Yes, we can talk about the morning I was
>> Yes, we can talk about the morning I was that they showed up. Um, yeah. I know
that they showed up. Um, yeah. I know I'm open just to ask me questions. I'll
I'm open just to ask me questions. I'll be as forthcoming as I can be.
be as forthcoming as I can be. >> So, you said you were notified by the
>> So, you said you were notified by the police of Harry's passing.
police of Harry's passing. Do you mind kind of walking me through
Do you mind kind of walking me through that scene and say perhaps the following
that scene and say perhaps the following 48 hours in your world?
48 hours in your world? >> It was about noon that they showed up at
>> It was about noon that they showed up at my door. And when I walked out there,
my door. And when I walked out there, there was a policeman sitting on my
there was a policeman sitting on my front porch. And I'm like, originally I
front porch. And I'm like, originally I feel, you know, my daughter was up
feel, you know, my daughter was up hunting in Colorado in the back
hunting in Colorado in the back mountains and when he showed up on my
mountains and when he showed up on my doorstep, I had this overwhelming fear
doorstep, I had this overwhelming fear that it was about her.
that it was about her. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> And Oh.
>> And Oh. >> So when I walked out, they asked me, "Do
>> So when I walked out, they asked me, "Do you know Harry Liry?" And then of course
you know Harry Liry?" And then of course I felt a total sense of relief. I said,
I felt a total sense of relief. I said, "Yeah, he's my brother." And so I
"Yeah, he's my brother." And so I originally thought, "Okay, they're here
originally thought, "Okay, they're here to serve him with papers for something
to serve him with papers for something he did." Yeah, makes sense, right?
he did." Yeah, makes sense, right? >> Exactly. And I said, "Well, yeah, he's
>> Exactly. And I said, "Well, yeah, he's my brother." And at that point, he said,
my brother." And at that point, he said, "Well, I need to tell you he's
"Well, I need to tell you he's deceased."
deceased." >> And I asked the policeman how what
>> And I asked the policeman how what happened. And what they did is they gave
happened. And what they did is they gave me the the number of the officer that
me the the number of the officer that took the report and that had went out
took the report and that had went out and found him basically. Yeah.
and found him basically. Yeah. >> And so then at that point I called that
>> And so then at that point I called that officer and spoke to him briefly and I
officer and spoke to him briefly and I have to tell you he was one of the most
have to tell you he was one of the most rudest people I'd ever spoken to in my
rudest people I'd ever spoken to in my life.
life. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> And he was not forthcoming. He really
>> And he was not forthcoming. He really said, "Well, that's all I know." He said
said, "Well, that's all I know." He said that he was given somebody did a we tip
that he was given somebody did a we tip phone call and told them that they found
phone call and told them that they found him in his car off of the 10 freeway
him in his car off of the 10 freeway by courts site in the middle of nowhere
by courts site in the middle of nowhere off an exit.
off an exit. >> Exit 69 on the 10 freeway is where they
>> Exit 69 on the 10 freeway is where they found him. And I've been there several
found him. And I've been there several times and there's nothing out there.
times and there's nothing out there. >> Honestly, I don't I think he pulled over
>> Honestly, I don't I think he pulled over to to get some sleep. honestly
to to get some sleep. honestly >> and just never woke up.
>> and just never woke up. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And that I believe
>> And that I believe and Greg Matas, Harry's friend, believes
and Greg Matas, Harry's friend, believes as well cuz he was trying to get in
as well cuz he was trying to get in touch with Harry and his communication
touch with Harry and his communication stopped on that Thursday. It was the 5th
stopped on that Thursday. It was the 5th that I believe he passed. I am going to
that I believe he passed. I am going to get a little graphic here and if that's
get a little graphic here and if that's not okay, I understand. But
not okay, I understand. But >> you have the Brenda.
>> you have the Brenda. They did tell me that he was
They did tell me that he was unrecognizable.
unrecognizable. So, he had been in a hot car for a good
So, he had been in a hot car for a good 24 plus hours.
24 plus hours. >> Wow.
>> Wow. >> Cuz they did not even recognize him. He
>> Cuz they did not even recognize him. He did not die on the 7th at 10:30 in the
did not die on the 7th at 10:30 in the morning. That's when they found him.
morning. That's when they found him. >> Yeah. So tried to get the exact time of
>> Yeah. So tried to get the exact time of death, but I'm just going based on the
death, but I'm just going based on the last bit of communication based on the
last bit of communication based on the fact that he was in that car for a
fact that he was in that car for a while. That's kind of what Greg and I
while. That's kind of what Greg and I came up with at that point had got that
came up with at that point had got that phone call and apparently they had also
phone call and apparently they had also called his daughter Briana.
called his daughter Briana. >> Okay. And then Briana and I spoke a
>> Okay. And then Briana and I spoke a little bit, but I immediately called my
little bit, but I immediately called my sister
sister because I was petrified that they were
because I was petrified that they were going to show up my mother's door.
going to show up my mother's door. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> And what mother wants a policeman to
>> And what mother wants a policeman to show up at her door and tell her that
show up at her door and tell her that her son has passed.
her son has passed. >> So after I got that news, I was on the
>> So after I got that news, I was on the road within an hour driving to
road within an hour driving to California from Lake Havsu.
California from Lake Havsu. And I don't even remember that drive.
And I don't even remember that drive. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Truth be told.
>> Truth be told. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> I talked to my sister. We actually
>> I talked to my sister. We actually called my mother and both of us told
called my mother and both of us told her, but both of us left. She was she's
her, but both of us left. She was she's in Sil Beach. So, she left her home. I
in Sil Beach. So, she left her home. I left mine and we both went there for
left mine and we both went there for her.
her. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> And so, we were there for her and we
>> And so, we were there for her and we were all in shock. My mother included.
were all in shock. My mother included. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. >> And that whole weekend is just a blur to
>> And that whole weekend is just a blur to me.
me. >> Yeah. Makes sense.
>> Yeah. Makes sense. So, you mentioned Greg and I I chatted
So, you mentioned Greg and I I chatted with Greg and he mentioned that you
with Greg and he mentioned that you didn't know who he was at first. I guess
didn't know who he was at first. I guess you kind of gave him the third degree
you kind of gave him the third degree because you didn't know who he was.
because you didn't know who he was. I did, but I a lot of it is really vague
I did, but I a lot of it is really vague to me. But I believe
to me. But I believe >> that Suzanne, his ex-girlfriend,
>> that Suzanne, his ex-girlfriend, messaged me and gave me Greg's number.
messaged me and gave me Greg's number. She asked if I'd heard from Harry
She asked if I'd heard from Harry >> and I didn't want to tell her what had
>> and I didn't want to tell her what had happened.
happened. >> So, I messaged Greg and I had to find
>> So, I messaged Greg and I had to find out who he was. Harry never mentioned
out who he was. Harry never mentioned Greg to me. He just said he had a
Greg to me. He just said he had a friend. And I did not know who Greg was.
friend. And I did not know who Greg was. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> But I'll tell you what, that man was a
>> But I'll tell you what, that man was a godsend to me. I don't know what I would
godsend to me. I don't know what I would have done without him, honestly.
have done without him, honestly. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And we've become very good friends. And
>> And we've become very good friends. And he is a wonderful person. A wonderful
he is a wonderful person. A wonderful person. I can't say enough good things
person. I can't say enough good things about that man.
about that man. >> What he did for me was just beyond
>> What he did for me was just beyond anything that anyone should have done.
anything that anyone should have done. and what he did for Harry. It's just
and what he did for Harry. It's just Yes. So,
Yes. So, >> he loved he loved Harry. It comes across
>> he loved he loved Harry. It comes across when you talk or you interact with Greg.
when you talk or you interact with Greg. He truly loved Harry.
He truly loved Harry. >> He did. He Harry was like a brother to
>> He did. He Harry was like a brother to him. I found out later. And Greg was in
him. I found out later. And Greg was in Harry's life the eight months that I was
Harry's life the eight months that I was not. And that was the eight months Harry
not. And that was the eight months Harry and I kind of lost touch. So, Greg had
and I kind of lost touch. So, Greg had information about my brother and how he
information about my brother and how he was doing and what he was doing that I
was doing and what he was doing that I didn't know. And together, we mourned.
didn't know. And together, we mourned. We helped each other get through moments
We helped each other get through moments that we needed to get through. And we're
that we needed to get through. And we're still doing that. Probably chatted on
still doing that. Probably chatted on the phone
the phone dozen times a day for quite some time.
dozen times a day for quite some time. Um, so yeah. No. And you know, we still
Um, so yeah. No. And you know, we still talk. He'll always have a big piece of
talk. He'll always have a big piece of my heart for the fact that he was there
my heart for the fact that he was there for my brother and always has been and
for my brother and always has been and always will be.
always will be. >> He's wonderful. I I was telling him he
>> He's wonderful. I I was telling him he he told me a line a while back that
he told me a line a while back that really stuck with me and it saved me
really stuck with me and it saved me quite a bit to your words. Right.
quite a bit to your words. Right. And I think that represents a lot of who
And I think that represents a lot of who Greg is is
Greg is is taking the time to listen and understand
taking the time to listen and understand before speaking and to be helpful.
before speaking and to be helpful. It's it's been tremendous what I've seen
It's it's been tremendous what I've seen from from him his side and it's really
from from him his side and it's really cool hear it from you.
cool hear it from you. >> Oh yeah. No, he's very softspoken.
>> Oh yeah. No, he's very softspoken. Funny guy. Very funny guy. I mean, he
Funny guy. Very funny guy. I mean, he made a horrible situation
made a horrible situation honestly kind of funny, you know,
honestly kind of funny, you know, because it was crazy. I came back from
because it was crazy. I came back from my mom's
my mom's >> we had my husband and I had to go empty
>> we had my husband and I had to go empty out his car that was in
out his car that was in >> Oh, wow.
>> Oh, wow. >> You know, and of course the bike was
>> You know, and of course the bike was gone. And that was my biggest thing. I
gone. And that was my biggest thing. I had contacted Greg. I said, you know,
had contacted Greg. I said, you know, his bike was not in the car. And I was
his bike was not in the car. And I was adamant that I could not get out there
adamant that I could not get out there to check his apartment. And Greg was
to check his apartment. And Greg was able through the management and whatnot,
able through the management and whatnot, he was able to get a key and go into
he was able to get a key and go into Harry's apartment for me. And he pulled
Harry's apartment for me. And he pulled out. I said, "Just take everything of
out. I said, "Just take everything of importance out." And the bike was not
importance out." And the bike was not there. And so he did. Harry did have a
there. And so he did. Harry did have a few things.
few things. >> I want to put this out there because
>> I want to put this out there because I've had several people contact me about
I've had several people contact me about wanting to buy some of Harry's things.
wanting to buy some of Harry's things. Mhm.
Mhm. >> Harry had virtually nothing left.
>> Harry had virtually nothing left. >> Harry pretty much sold and he did not
>> Harry pretty much sold and he did not care a wit about monetary things.
care a wit about monetary things. >> Yes.
>> Yes. >> And he pretty much sold everything. So
>> And he pretty much sold everything. So what was left was a few items of his
what was left was a few items of his >> personal things.
>> personal things. >> And so I just wanted to put that out
>> And so I just wanted to put that out there. I had one gentleman
there. I had one gentleman >> ask me when I'm going to be selling some
>> ask me when I'm going to be selling some of Harry's bikes. What happened to them?
of Harry's bikes. What happened to them? And he literally said it in an angry
And he literally said it in an angry way. Well, whatever happened to all
way. Well, whatever happened to all Harry's stuff? And I'm like,
Harry's stuff? And I'm like, >> what?
>> what? >> Really? What? What business is it of
>> Really? What? What business is it of yours? First of all,
yours? First of all, honestly, I will never sell anything at
honestly, I will never sell anything at Harry's ever. I will never ever make a
Harry's ever. I will never ever make a penny off of my brother's fame.
penny off of my brother's fame. >> I just won't do it.
>> I just won't do it. >> And so, I have given things to to
>> And so, I have given things to to certain people. Greg was one of them. I
certain people. Greg was one of them. I let Greg pick what out whatever he
let Greg pick what out whatever he wanted. So,
wanted. So, >> I've only given things to two different
>> I've only given things to two different people. And
people. And >> so, yeah. And so, backing up,
>> so, yeah. And so, backing up, >> I had to go to his car
>> I had to go to his car >> and so we had to empty out his car. Of
>> and so we had to empty out his car. Of course, the stench in the car was not
course, the stench in the car was not the best. Some of the items that I had
the best. Some of the items that I had to take out of the car, but his phone
to take out of the car, but his phone was in there. I mean, his whoever took
was in there. I mean, his whoever took his bike left his watch on his wrist,
his bike left his watch on his wrist, his wallet in his pocket, and his phone
his wallet in his pocket, and his phone in the front seat. Easy money grab on
in the front seat. Easy money grab on that bike. They probably knew what it
that bike. They probably knew what it was.
was. >> I don't know. The whole bike thing was
>> I don't know. The whole bike thing was just weird.
just weird. >> Yeah, it is.
>> Yeah, it is. >> And then the police wouldn't take a
>> And then the police wouldn't take a report. They wouldn't help me because it
report. They wouldn't help me because it was in two jurisdictions. It was a fasco
was in two jurisdictions. It was a fasco to get that bike back. Thank God for
to get that bike back. Thank God for Greg Matus and Rob Porter and his wife.
Greg Matus and Rob Porter and his wife. They were able to I'm going to say it
They were able to I'm going to say it set up a sting to get that bike back.
set up a sting to get that bike back. >> So, it was awesome. And Greg really did
>> So, it was awesome. And Greg really did a lot. There's a lot he didn't tell me.
a lot. There's a lot he didn't tell me. I know.
I know. >> Sure. Yeah.
>> Sure. Yeah. >> He did a lot. And again, when they found
>> He did a lot. And again, when they found the bike, because Harry was Harry never
the bike, because Harry was Harry never let his bikes out of his sight ever,
let his bikes out of his sight ever, even growing up.
even growing up. >> And you just didn't touch Harry Ly's
>> And you just didn't touch Harry Ly's bike. That's one thing nobody ever did.
bike. That's one thing nobody ever did. You don't touch it.
You don't touch it. you would lose a hand on his
you would lose a hand on his >> I can imagine. Yeah.
>> I can imagine. Yeah. >> So, and he never let them out of his
>> So, and he never let them out of his sight and he took his bike wherever he
sight and he took his bike wherever he went because he was afraid to leave it
went because he was afraid to leave it at home because he was a little
at home because he was a little paranoid. I think it was the CTE.
paranoid. I think it was the CTE. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> And he was afraid that somebody was
>> And he was afraid that somebody was breaking into his apartment and stealing
breaking into his apartment and stealing stuff. So, a lot of paranoia came with
stuff. So, a lot of paranoia came with that with the CTE, which is a sign of
that with the CTE, which is a sign of it.
it. Yeah.
Yeah. >> So, after we got his car back, the next
>> So, after we got his car back, the next day, we had to drive out to his
day, we had to drive out to his apartment in Phoenix, and I had to empty
apartment in Phoenix, and I had to empty it out. And Greg, bless his heart, was
it out. And Greg, bless his heart, was there. He showed up there, and he had
there. He showed up there, and he had taken things out of Harry's apartment
taken things out of Harry's apartment that belonged to him and he gave
that belonged to him and he gave everything back to me. He even helped us
everything back to me. He even helped us go through the apartment together. And
go through the apartment together. And just having him there was very um
just having him there was very um supportive
supportive >> and we laughed, we cried. It was just
>> and we laughed, we cried. It was just two days of awful awful things.
two days of awful awful things. >> And then the third day I had to go to
>> And then the third day I had to go to the criminatory to pick up his personal
the criminatory to pick up his personal effects.
effects. >> Oh, okay.
>> Oh, okay. >> So I did all that. My husband and I did.
>> So I did all that. My husband and I did. I didn't want my mom involved. So then I
I didn't want my mom involved. So then I had Harry transferred from courtsite cuz
had Harry transferred from courtsite cuz I'm going to say it's a [ __ ] hole.
I'm going to say it's a [ __ ] hole. >> I did not want my brother. He was at the
>> I did not want my brother. He was at the creremator in Parker. I did not want him
creremator in Parker. I did not want him there.
there. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> So I had him transferred to Lake Havsu,
>> So I had him transferred to Lake Havsu, the crematory in Lake Havsu.
the crematory in Lake Havsu. >> Ironically enough,
>> Ironically enough, >> they have cremated several of my dogs,
>> they have cremated several of my dogs, but it's a wonderful place. They do
but it's a wonderful place. They do people and they do dogs. So, you know, I
people and they do dogs. So, you know, I thought what better place to have Harry
thought what better place to have Harry done than at a place that does both.
done than at a place that does both. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> So,
>> So, >> well, Harry loved dogs. So,
>> well, Harry loved dogs. So, >> oh my god, he loved his dogs. And dogs
>> oh my god, he loved his dogs. And dogs loved him. Yeah.
loved him. Yeah. >> And dogs are a very good judge of
>> And dogs are a very good judge of character.
character. >> Exactly.
>> Exactly. >> All dogs loved Harry. And that says
>> All dogs loved Harry. And that says something about his character.
something about his character. >> If he was as big of a scumbag as people
>> If he was as big of a scumbag as people say he is, dogs would know.
say he is, dogs would know. >> Yeah. So that's I'm just going to put
>> Yeah. So that's I'm just going to put throw that out there. Dogs have a better
throw that out there. Dogs have a better sense of people than people have sense
sense of people than people have sense of other people. Anybody that is a dog
of other people. Anybody that is a dog lover will understand.
lover will understand. >> Absolutely 100% agree with that
>> Absolutely 100% agree with that statement.
statement. >> Yes, Harry loved his dogs.
>> Yes, Harry loved his dogs. >> But I digress. I apologize. I I changed
>> But I digress. I apologize. I I changed the direction of the conversation.
the direction of the conversation. >> That's okay. I knew this would happen.
>> That's okay. I knew this would happen. >> But no, so Greg was wonderful. It's
>> But no, so Greg was wonderful. It's amazing that he was able to help you
amazing that he was able to help you with that and and the cremation
with that and and the cremation services.
services. You were there, right?
You were there, right? >> Yes. I was there just by myself. My
>> Yes. I was there just by myself. My daughter was going to come down,
daughter was going to come down, Jessica, but she lost her dad two years
Jessica, but she lost her dad two years ago and she was not emotionally ready to
ago and she was not emotionally ready to deal with that. So,
deal with that. So, >> I decided I didn't want anybody there
>> I decided I didn't want anybody there with me that didn't want to be there for
with me that didn't want to be there for Harry. Okay.
Harry. Okay. >> And so I did it by myself. He loved
>> And so I did it by myself. He loved Creed. So I picked out three Creed songs
Creed. So I picked out three Creed songs that they played
that they played >> and I pushed the button and watched the
>> and I pushed the button and watched the box go in.
box go in. >> So yeah, it was a beautiful moment.
>> So yeah, it was a beautiful moment. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> But yet it was very hard at the same
>> But yet it was very hard at the same time.
time. >> I I can't imagine. I've never done that.
>> I I can't imagine. I've never done that. >> I'd always been there for my brother
>> I'd always been there for my brother through thick and thin. Whenever he
through thick and thin. Whenever he needed anything, I was there always.
needed anything, I was there always. Always through his whole life. And I was
Always through his whole life. And I was there at the end.
there at the end. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And it was a beautiful moment.
>> And it was a beautiful moment. >> That's absolutely amazing.
>> That's absolutely amazing. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And you've had, I guess, a year now to
>> And you've had, I guess, a year now to the day to reflect
the day to reflect since he's passed.
since he's passed. and we've talked about some things in
and we've talked about some things in the past and his dedication to the
the past and his dedication to the sport, I should say.
sport, I should say. >> Have you?
>> Have you? >> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Have you found closure with his
>> Have you found closure with his dedication to the sport?
dedication to the sport? >> I was able to do that through having his
>> I was able to do that through having his celebration of life at Dirty Fest.
celebration of life at Dirty Fest. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> And just listening to some of what the
>> And just listening to some of what the people said about my brother. And I
people said about my brother. And I learned so much about him. when he was
learned so much about him. when he was in Diamondback. I didn't realize he was
in Diamondback. I didn't realize he was the manager of the team. I didn't know
the manager of the team. I didn't know the way that these younger kids and even
the way that these younger kids and even the older people looked up to him and
the older people looked up to him and how he ran that team. I didn't know any
how he ran that team. I didn't know any of that. Just saw my brother as a figure
of that. Just saw my brother as a figure at that point. I really didn't know. I
at that point. I really didn't know. I knew he was good.
knew he was good. >> I knew he made a living doing it, but I
>> I knew he made a living doing it, but I was a teenager
was a teenager >> and we didn't want his sister hanging
>> and we didn't want his sister hanging around. So Harry kind of went his own
around. So Harry kind of went his own way with the BMX world and I tried to I
way with the BMX world and I tried to I would go to his races a lot and I didn't
would go to his races a lot and I didn't go to watch my brother race.
go to watch my brother race. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> I went there to meet his friends.
>> I went there to meet his friends. >> I imagine
>> I imagine >> because he had a lot of cute friends. So
>> because he had a lot of cute friends. So >> but I saw Harry race a lot.
>> but I saw Harry race a lot. >> Yeah. But I think one of the most
>> Yeah. But I think one of the most memorable races I saw Harry race was it
memorable races I saw Harry race was it was on a dirt track and honestly I don't
was on a dirt track and honestly I don't remember where it was
remember where it was >> but somebody took him out on a turn
>> but somebody took him out on a turn >> and he went and he picked his bike up
>> and he went and he picked his bike up and when that person passed back by him
and when that person passed back by him on the next turn
on the next turn >> Harry chucked his bike at him
>> Harry chucked his bike at him >> and knocked his bike
>> and knocked his bike >> and I thought right on that's my brother
>> and I thought right on that's my brother that is the coolest thing. So at that
that is the coolest thing. So at that point I think was when Harry started
point I think was when Harry started getting the name Harry Scary Liry. I
getting the name Harry Scary Liry. I don't know if you knew that they called
don't know if you knew that they called him that.
him that. >> I did. Yes. Uh not very long because
>> I did. Yes. Uh not very long because then he was Turbo, right?
then he was Turbo, right? >> Yeah. But he was Harry Scary Liry and he
>> Yeah. But he was Harry Scary Liry and he was pretty scary when he lost his
was pretty scary when he lost his temper.
temper. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> But with his racing, he was so dedicated
>> But with his racing, he was so dedicated and just focused and anybody messed with
and just focused and anybody messed with him, they got it in return. That's what
him, they got it in return. That's what BMX was about back then.
BMX was about back then. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Now, what happened at the Grands, like
>> Now, what happened at the Grands, like >> future BMXing, we're talking old school.
>> future BMXing, we're talking old school. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And that's how they did it back then.
>> And that's how they did it back then. None of this, oh well, he hit me on the
None of this, oh well, he hit me on the turn. Now, Harry gave [ __ ] when it was
turn. Now, Harry gave [ __ ] when it was given to him.
given to him. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Always.
>> Always. >> Always.
>> Always. >> You always got payback, right?
>> You always got payback, right? >> Yeah. And there's sometimes he probably
>> Yeah. And there's sometimes he probably should have kept it. Well,
should have kept it. Well, >> stay true to your words, right?
>> stay true to your words, right? >> Yeah. No, definitely. And that probably
>> Yeah. No, definitely. And that probably wasn't the smartest thing he did at the
wasn't the smartest thing he did at the grands, but the uproar over it was, in
grands, but the uproar over it was, in my opinion, a little much, you know.
my opinion, a little much, you know. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And
>> And >> did he deserve what he got out of it. I
>> did he deserve what he got out of it. I think it was more
think it was more I don't think it was the BMX sport
I don't think it was the BMX sport itself. I think it was the writers and
itself. I think it was the writers and the people involved in the sport that
the people involved in the sport that were clamoring for something that needed
were clamoring for something that needed to be done. They had to do something.
to be done. They had to do something. >> They changed. They made changes out of
>> They changed. They made changes out of because of it.
because of it. >> Yeah. Well, what they really should
>> Yeah. Well, what they really should start making changes on is the CTE that
start making changes on is the CTE that goes on in the sport. And that's what
goes on in the sport. And that's what they should concentrate on, the injuries
they should concentrate on, the injuries that that these young kids up and coming
that that these young kids up and coming are going to be suffering because
are going to be suffering because they're on hard tracks now. They're not
they're on hard tracks now. They're not on dirt tracks. Yeah, it's changed. I
on dirt tracks. Yeah, it's changed. I look at these tracks and they terrify
look at these tracks and they terrify me. To be honest,
me. To be honest, >> my granddaughter, Harry's great niece,
>> my granddaughter, Harry's great niece, just started racing. The first thing I
just started racing. The first thing I did, and I talked to Greg, he pointed me
did, and I talked to Greg, he pointed me in the right direction. I got her a Troy
in the right direction. I got her a Troy Lee helmet that is specifically made for
Lee helmet that is specifically made for CTE.
CTE. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> And that's what's on her little head.
>> And that's what's on her little head. >> That was the very first thing I bought.
>> That was the very first thing I bought. Yeah.
Yeah. >> I'm an advocate for the CTE and I
>> I'm an advocate for the CTE and I honestly would love to have something in
honestly would love to have something in Harry's name. I believe that's what
Harry's name. I believe that's what ultimately probably killed him. I mean,
ultimately probably killed him. I mean, what led to his demise?
what led to his demise? >> I think that there is enough sound
>> I think that there is enough sound evidence to support that theory.
evidence to support that theory. >> Yes.
>> Yes. >> So, as you look towards the future, what
>> So, as you look towards the future, what do you hope his legacy is?
do you hope his legacy is? I hope people view him as the athlete
I hope people view him as the athlete that he was, that kids nowadays can
that he was, that kids nowadays can learn from his dedication, the work
learn from his dedication, the work ethics that it took to be the person
ethics that it took to be the person that he was. He worked out hard. He
that he was. He worked out hard. He trained hard. He was so focused. And
trained hard. He was so focused. And he was 60 what? 64 and he was still
he was 60 what? 64 and he was still racing.
racing. >> Kicking ass. Yeah. I look at his
>> Kicking ass. Yeah. I look at his pictures and I'm like, are you kidding
pictures and I'm like, are you kidding me? First off, he doesn't look his age,
me? First off, he doesn't look his age, but second of all, I'm like, my
but second of all, I'm like, my goodness, the guy was a beast.
goodness, the guy was a beast. >> He was a beast. And funny, I've been
>> He was a beast. And funny, I've been riding a mountain bike that he used to
riding a mountain bike that he used to ride this hill on his BMX bike.
ride this hill on his BMX bike. >> Oh,
>> Oh, >> I'm sucking wind, right? And because
>> I'm sucking wind, right? And because it's not an ebike, it's a mountain bike.
it's not an ebike, it's a mountain bike. And I'm thinking,
And I'm thinking, >> how in the hell did he do this? I'm
>> how in the hell did he do this? I'm going through my gears like a crazy
going through my gears like a crazy person. How did he do this on a BMX
person. How did he do this on a BMX bike?
bike? >> And then I could hear him in my ear.
>> And then I could hear him in my ear. Sister, don't stop. It's like, okay,
Sister, don't stop. It's like, okay, okay. Cuz Harry and I worked out quite
okay. Cuz Harry and I worked out quite often together.
often together. >> And it was always a competition. Yeah.
>> And it was always a competition. Yeah. Harry and I were always competing. I
Harry and I were always competing. I used to beat him running, by the way. I
used to beat him running, by the way. I could kick his ass running.
could kick his ass running. >> Oh, yeah.
>> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. But as far as a bike, no, never
>> Yeah. But as far as a bike, no, never happened.
happened. >> I can imagine. Uh, he was kind of
>> I can imagine. Uh, he was kind of professional and he kind of like I guess
professional and he kind of like I guess he was kind of professional and made a
he was kind of professional and made a living out of it for a while. So, you
living out of it for a while. So, you might have had a tough chance there.
might have had a tough chance there. >> No chance.
>> No chance. >> But you said something that caught my
>> But you said something that caught my attention. You said that you could hear
attention. You said that you could hear Harry say, "Sister, don't stop." Is that
Harry say, "Sister, don't stop." Is that something he he regularly said to you?
something he he regularly said to you? Is that kind of like one of his phrases?
Is that kind of like one of his phrases? >> Oh, yeah. You can do it. You can do
>> Oh, yeah. You can do it. You can do whatever you set your mind to.
whatever you set your mind to. >> Yeah. Just like with the uh bikini
>> Yeah. Just like with the uh bikini competition I did, he told me that if
competition I did, he told me that if you need to do it, if that's something
you need to do it, if that's something you feel like you want to do, because I
you feel like you want to do, because I always wanted to do one. My husband
always wanted to do one. My husband competed natural. All of it was natural
competed natural. All of it was natural and mine is definitely natural. Um and
and mine is definitely natural. Um and so I trained for it and I after Harry
so I trained for it and I after Harry passed, it was something I felt I needed
passed, it was something I felt I needed to do for my brother.
to do for my brother. >> That's awesome.
>> That's awesome. >> And I accomplished it. So yeah, it was
>> And I accomplished it. So yeah, it was something. Harry was always there
something. Harry was always there pushing me on my dirt bikes, pushing my
pushing me on my dirt bikes, pushing my kids on their dirt bikes and their BMX
kids on their dirt bikes and their BMX bikes. He never asked anybody to do
bikes. He never asked anybody to do anything that he wasn't willing to do
anything that he wasn't willing to do himself
himself and that is always something that stood
and that is always something that stood out in my mind.
out in my mind. >> It's a sign of a good leaner.
>> It's a sign of a good leaner. >> Exactly. I was always always trying to
>> Exactly. I was always always trying to keep up with him all through growing up.
keep up with him all through growing up. And like I said, I used to be able to
And like I said, I used to be able to beat him in a running race.
beat him in a running race. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> For a quite a long time, but then you
>> For a quite a long time, but then you know, boys will be boys, girls will be
know, boys will be boys, girls will be girls. And he was able to beat me
girls. And he was able to beat me eventually. So,
eventually. So, >> yeah. But I could say that. Yeah. I
>> yeah. But I could say that. Yeah. I kicked your ass, dude. So,
kicked your ass, dude. So, >> I love it.
>> I love it. >> I love it.
>> I love it. >> Talk to me about it.
>> Talk to me about it. >> So, I like to play a game called one
>> So, I like to play a game called one word. Are you down?
word. Are you down? >> I'm totally down.
>> I'm totally down. >> All right. So, we're going to do it
>> All right. So, we're going to do it twice. I guess you get two words. Nobody
twice. I guess you get two words. Nobody else has ever had two words that have
else has ever had two words that have asked on this. So,
asked on this. So, one word to describe Harry Liry as a
one word to describe Harry Liry as a brother.
brother. >> Dumbass.
>> Dumbass. >> I think that's either one word or two. I
>> I think that's either one word or two. I spell it as one word. So,
spell it as one word. So, that's what I called him. That's who and
that's what I called him. That's who and what he was to me.
what he was to me. >> I love it. That's awesome. You have your
>> I love it. That's awesome. You have your before knowledge. You have the knowledge
before knowledge. You have the knowledge you've gained since Harry's past.
you've gained since Harry's past. One word for whatever you believe your
One word for whatever you believe your brother was able to achieve as a BMX
brother was able to achieve as a BMX legend.
legend. >> Driven.
>> Driven. >> Love it.
>> Love it. >> He was driven, focused. He was just It
>> He was driven, focused. He was just It was like he there was something driving
was like he there was something driving that man.
that man. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> It was hard to figure out his
>> It was hard to figure out his dedication. It was hard to figure out
dedication. It was hard to figure out how come he beat the [ __ ] out of himself
how come he beat the [ __ ] out of himself so much.
so much. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And I mean, he did. He really, really
>> And I mean, he did. He really, really did.
did. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> He raced when he shouldn't have even
>> He raced when he shouldn't have even been racing.
been racing. >> Yeah. I've heard he's had some some
>> Yeah. I've heard he's had some some pretty severe injuries and he got right
pretty severe injuries and he got right on a bike right after that.
on a bike right after that. >> He did. And I can tell you about one of
>> He did. And I can tell you about one of them.
them. >> Yeah. What's that?
>> Yeah. What's that? >> He was in his storage unit putting
>> He was in his storage unit putting things away and he was climbing on a
things away and he was climbing on a ladder. The ladder slipped. He grabbed
ladder. The ladder slipped. He grabbed the bean overhead and it was razor sharp
the bean overhead and it was razor sharp and he ripped the tendons in his hand.
and he ripped the tendons in his hand. >> Oh my gosh.
>> Oh my gosh. >> He called me. He was screaming cuz he
>> He called me. He was screaming cuz he just knew his BMX career was over.
just knew his BMX career was over. >> And I can send you pictures of it. And
>> And I can send you pictures of it. And he ended up having to have surgery to
he ended up having to have surgery to reattach his tendons.
reattach his tendons. >> Oh wow.
>> Oh wow. >> In his hand. You know what? I don't
>> In his hand. You know what? I don't remember his right hand or his left
remember his right hand or his left hand, but I do know that he changed his
hand, but I do know that he changed his brake lever to the opposite hand so that
brake lever to the opposite hand so that he could still race. And he raced with a
he could still race. And he raced with a damn bandage on his hand.
damn bandage on his hand. >> Huh. Well, he had to have been used to
>> Huh. Well, he had to have been used to that because for the early part of his
that because for the early part of his career, he ran front and rear brakes.
career, he ran front and rear brakes. So, he wasn't a stranger to his left
So, he wasn't a stranger to his left hand or to the alternate hand. He just
hand or to the alternate hand. He just might have been a little out of
might have been a little out of commission on that bad one.
commission on that bad one. >> Yeah, I think he only took a month off.
>> Yeah, I think he only took a month off. And the doctor,
And the doctor, >> he was moving that hand and exercising
>> he was moving that hand and exercising it when the doctor had told him not to.
it when the doctor had told him not to. And he basically told the doctor to go
And he basically told the doctor to go [ __ ] himself and Harry recouped at my
[ __ ] himself and Harry recouped at my house and he was he was back on the road
house and he was he was back on the road after a month.
after a month. >> Wow. Wow.
>> Wow. Wow. >> And he Yeah, it was a bad injury. It
>> And he Yeah, it was a bad injury. It really was.
really was. >> It sounds I mean it sounds terrible.
>> It sounds I mean it sounds terrible. >> And that actually I think was his last
>> And that actually I think was his last really bad injury that he took that I am
really bad injury that he took that I am aware of was the severing of his tendons
aware of was the severing of his tendons in his hand. When was that? What was
in his hand. When was that? What was that? Uh in the 20 early 2020s or
that? Uh in the 20 early 2020s or >> Yeah, I'm thinking that's about when it
>> Yeah, I'm thinking that's about when it was now. I'm not real sure. We moved
was now. I'm not real sure. We moved permanently out there in 2021. So, it
permanently out there in 2021. So, it may have been 2021.
may have been 2021. >> Oh, wow. Okay.
>> Oh, wow. Okay. >> Or 2022. But, um yeah, I'm thinking
>> Or 2022. But, um yeah, I'm thinking 2022, honestly.
2022, honestly. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> And I But I could be wrong all the time.
>> And I But I could be wrong all the time. I mean,
I mean, >> it's okay.
>> it's okay. >> You know, I'm getting old, so
>> You know, I'm getting old, so >> I'm terrible with dates. Trust. I'm with
>> I'm terrible with dates. Trust. I'm with you on that. I I am too. I I mean I can
you on that. I I am too. I I mean I can remember what I did yesterday. So
remember what I did yesterday. So >> I gotcha.
>> I gotcha. Oh, hey Ann, look at that. We're getting
Oh, hey Ann, look at that. We're getting close to the end of the bridge.
close to the end of the bridge. >> Yeah, look at that. Look at the water
>> Yeah, look at that. Look at the water down below.
down below. >> Wow, it's beautiful. And is that a is
>> Wow, it's beautiful. And is that a is that a stage? I see.
that a stage? I see. >> Yes, there is a stage there.
>> Yes, there is a stage there. >> That looks like a nice spot to catch a
>> That looks like a nice spot to catch a concert. It it is actually do different
concert. It it is actually do different announcements and different stage shows
announcements and different stage shows and especially at Christmas it's all
and especially at Christmas it's all decorated. So we have to go down this
decorated. So we have to go down this flight of stairs to get down to that.
flight of stairs to get down to that. Once we get down to the bottom of the
Once we get down to the bottom of the stairs we're going to hang a right and
stairs we're going to hang a right and that's where we put Harry's paver.
that's where we put Harry's paver. >> Oh, okay. Awesome. So that's that's
>> Oh, okay. Awesome. So that's that's where the walkway is in. Right there.
where the walkway is in. Right there. Right there.
Right there. >> Yeah. You can see the walkway. It runs
>> Yeah. You can see the walkway. It runs right along the canal. And the canal is
right along the canal. And the canal is about maybe two miles long and we paddle
about maybe two miles long and we paddle board that all the time
board that all the time >> and Harry did try a little bit of paddle
>> and Harry did try a little bit of paddle boarding but I don't think it was his
boarding but I don't think it was his forte. Now put him in a boat that was
forte. Now put him in a boat that was Harry's world. He was very good boater.
Harry's world. He was very good boater. He grew up on boats. We all did. So we
He grew up on boats. We all did. So we at a very young age took a 19 foot boat
at a very young age took a 19 foot boat up the Colorado River through the Grand
up the Colorado River through the Grand Canyon and camped along the way. And I
Canyon and camped along the way. And I think I was like five or six maybe.
think I was like five or six maybe. >> Oh wow.
>> Oh wow. >> So yeah. And um Harry piloted the boats.
>> So yeah. And um Harry piloted the boats. He drove the boats. And he was
He drove the boats. And he was >> no more than a very young teenager at
>> no more than a very young teenager at the time.
the time. >> Oh that's that's exciting.
>> Oh that's that's exciting. >> So anyway, I'm getting ahead of myself.
>> So anyway, I'm getting ahead of myself. So yes, we go down this pathway. But you
So yes, we go down this pathway. But you can see the how the
can see the how the >> the path walkers, runners, bikers. That
>> the path walkers, runners, bikers. That stage right over there is where Harry
stage right over there is where Harry was doing some stunts and and you're not
was doing some stunts and and you're not supposed to be on that stage. Right. He
supposed to be on that stage. Right. He was doing stunts on the stage or off the
was doing stunts on the stage or off the stage
stage >> on his bike. With his bike. Yeah. He was
>> on his bike. With his bike. Yeah. He was jumping off and jumping on and some guys
jumping off and jumping on and some guys came up on policemen, you know. Well,
came up on policemen, you know. Well, security guards on their bikes. They
security guards on their bikes. They weren't real policemen. They told him he
weren't real policemen. They told him he needed to get off the stage. Well,
needed to get off the stage. Well, Harry's answer to that was, "Fuck you."
Harry's answer to that was, "Fuck you." >> Yeah. Jesus.
>> Yeah. Jesus. >> And so he took off on his bike.
>> And so he took off on his bike. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And there was no way those two guys were
>> And there was no way those two guys were going to catch him. There's no way in
going to catch him. There's no way in hell. And that's what Harry thought.
hell. And that's what Harry thought. Yeah,
Yeah, >> but they radioed ahead and they had
>> but they radioed ahead and they had another guy coming down and it's only
another guy coming down and it's only three foot wide. So the one guy got him
three foot wide. So the one guy got him and made him fall off his bike. Took the
and made him fall off his bike. Took the three guys to get him arrested. But
three guys to get him arrested. But yeah, goodness.
yeah, goodness. >> He was arrested that day for jumping on
>> He was arrested that day for jumping on that stage.
that stage. >> He was just putting on a show.
>> He was just putting on a show. >> Oh yeah, he was just putting on a show.
>> Oh yeah, he was just putting on a show. He was not hurting anybody. He was just
He was not hurting anybody. He was just doing tricks, jumping off. But they
doing tricks, jumping off. But they frown on that and Harry pretty much
frown on that and Harry pretty much said, "Well, I'm going to do whatever I
said, "Well, I'm going to do whatever I want to do." And well, they took offense
want to do." And well, they took offense to it and decided that they weren't
to it and decided that they weren't going to allow him to do that. So,
going to allow him to do that. So, >> wow, what a fun story.
>> wow, what a fun story. >> Yeah, just a side note on the little
>> Yeah, just a side note on the little stage there. But
stage there. But >> yeah,
>> yeah, >> and I turn around. I see a fairy. Is
>> and I turn around. I see a fairy. Is that Is that a ferry? Where does that
that Is that a ferry? Where does that go?
go? >> That is the casino boat that you can
>> That is the casino boat that you can take. It takes you I think it's like six
take. It takes you I think it's like six bucks and it takes you across to the
bucks and it takes you across to the casino on the California side and it's
casino on the California side and it's about a 105 minute drive and it drops
about a 105 minute drive and it drops you off. You can gamble, do whatever and
you off. You can gamble, do whatever and it goes every 20 minutes and you can
it goes every 20 minutes and you can catch that ferry going back and it runs
catch that ferry going back and it runs throughout the day.
throughout the day. >> Okay, that's kind of cool. Little fun
>> Okay, that's kind of cool. Little fun something to do there. Especially during
something to do there. Especially during the winter when there's no boating or
the winter when there's no boating or paddle boarding or any of the summer
paddle boarding or any of the summer event. We'll take that little boat over
event. We'll take that little boat over and have dinner and then come back.
and have dinner and then come back. >> I love it.
>> I love it. >> Yeah, I love it.
>> Yeah, I love it. >> You love it too, Ann? Yeah. All right,
>> You love it too, Ann? Yeah. All right, we'll get you on a boat someday. Ah,
we'll get you on a boat someday. Ah, this walkway.
this walkway. What a cool concept. I guess how long's
What a cool concept. I guess how long's this been here?
this been here? >> It's been there years. What's really
>> It's been there years. What's really cool is you don't a person doesn't have
cool is you don't a person doesn't have to have passed. You can get a brick is
to have passed. You can get a brick is if you look at these bricks down here,
if you look at these bricks down here, you can see where it's just somebody's
you can see where it's just somebody's name or business name. And and this
name or business name. And and this section here is for veterans.
section here is for veterans. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> So they actually have um and that the
>> So they actually have um and that the ones with the little medallions in the
ones with the little medallions in the middle.
middle. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Those are the ones that are for veterans
>> Those are the ones that are for veterans and people in in the service. And so you
and people in in the service. And so you could get them with their names on it
could get them with their names on it >> or the memorial if somebody passes.
>> or the memorial if somebody passes. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And so that's what I decided to do for
>> And so that's what I decided to do for Harry.
Harry. And we did what I tried to do and you'll
And we did what I tried to do and you'll see is Harry's signature move on that
see is Harry's signature move on that brick and it just says Harry Larry Turbo
brick and it just says Harry Larry Turbo on there and it shows him on the bike
on there and it shows him on the bike trying to do his signature move but
trying to do his signature move but unfortunately they couldn't do it so it
unfortunately they couldn't do it so it looks more like you'll see it's it's a
looks more like you'll see it's it's a bike with somebody riding doing like a a
bike with somebody riding doing like a a you know a side thing. It wasn't here.
you know a side thing. It wasn't here. It wasn't the turbo. But
It wasn't the turbo. But >> the only one that really notices it is
>> the only one that really notices it is Eddie. Eddie noticed it right away.
Eddie. Eddie noticed it right away. >> And he's like, "Are you going to change
>> And he's like, "Are you going to change that?"
that?" >> Are you serious right now?
>> Are you serious right now? >> Cuz with these pavers, you have to have
>> Cuz with these pavers, you have to have your order in by October 16th.
your order in by October 16th. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> And annually.
>> And annually. >> And yes. And then they do it one time a
>> And yes. And then they do it one time a year in March. They do a ceremony right
year in March. They do a ceremony right at the stage. They set up chairs there
at the stage. They set up chairs there and they do a ceremony there and they've
and they do a ceremony there and they've all been laid and then they take
all been laid and then they take everybody down to see your spot where
everybody down to see your spot where your paver is. So they only do it once a
your paver is. So they only do it once a year. So I had to get it in in October
year. So I had to get it in in October so that they could do it this last
so that they could do it this last March. And so that's when we did Harry's
March. And so that's when we did Harry's funeral.
funeral. >> Greg and Eddie came out and Harry's
>> Greg and Eddie came out and Harry's daughter. And so they did the PA and we
daughter. And so they did the PA and we all walked down and saw the PA and then
all walked down and saw the PA and then we took a pontoon boat that was
we took a pontoon boat that was captained by a very close friend of
captained by a very close friend of mine, Pete, which was a godsend. And he
mine, Pete, which was a godsend. And he took my family and friends out down to a
took my family and friends out down to a cove called Steamboat Cove.
cove called Steamboat Cove. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> And we had a little ceremony. My
>> And we had a little ceremony. My granddaughter was there and threw rose
granddaughter was there and threw rose petals into the water.
petals into the water. >> Nice.
>> Nice. >> And we played a couple of songs. Harry's
>> And we played a couple of songs. Harry's urn was water soluble and
urn was water soluble and >> Oh,
>> Oh, >> it dropped like a rock.
>> it dropped like a rock. >> I mean, it's like, geez, dude, you were
>> I mean, it's like, geez, dude, you were in a hurry.
in a hurry. >> So, so we did that. And um yeah, but the
>> So, so we did that. And um yeah, but the paper coming up, I'll show you how they
paper coming up, I'll show you how they placed it. They decided this year to
placed it. They decided this year to spell the word freedom.
spell the word freedom. >> And all they got done was the f re e.
>> And all they got done was the f re e. And so Harry is actually in the letter
And so Harry is actually in the letter E. So his paper was set and I thought it
E. So his paper was set and I thought it was apppropo in the word free because I
was apppropo in the word free because I I feel like my brother's free now.
I feel like my brother's free now. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. I think that's absolutely perfect.
>> Yeah. I think that's absolutely perfect. >> I belong to a walking group and we walk
>> I belong to a walking group and we walk every Tuesday, Thursday. Okay.
every Tuesday, Thursday. Okay. >> And we walk this path and so every time
>> And we walk this path and so every time I walk by coming and going, I make sure
I walk by coming and going, I make sure I stomp his brick. Yeah.
I stomp his brick. Yeah. >> And it's actually getting kind of funny
>> And it's actually getting kind of funny because now all my friends stomp him as
because now all my friends stomp him as well.
well. >> So, and he knows why because he's a
>> So, and he knows why because he's a dumbass and that's why I'm stomping him.
dumbass and that's why I'm stomping him. So,
So, >> I stomp him every time I see it.
>> I stomp him every time I see it. >> I love it.
>> I love it. >> So, I would hope that you and Anarie
>> So, I would hope that you and Anarie would stomp away.
would stomp away. >> Yeah. Is
>> Yeah. Is >> Yeah. Let's do it. Hold on. You ready?
>> Yeah. Let's do it. Hold on. You ready? All right. Hey, Kale. You ready? Ready?
All right. Hey, Kale. You ready? Ready? I'm ready to stomp.
I'm ready to stomp. Is that funny? Yeah. I love it. I
Is that funny? Yeah. I love it. I absolutely love it, kiddo.
absolutely love it, kiddo. Oh man. Never in my life would I have
Oh man. Never in my life would I have ever guessed that I'd be crossing the
ever guessed that I'd be crossing the London Bridge to stomp on Harry Larry's
London Bridge to stomp on Harry Larry's memory. Never. It's, you know.
memory. Never. It's, you know. >> Yeah. I've had people look at me, too.
>> Yeah. I've had people look at me, too. They look at me, why are you doing that?
They look at me, why are you doing that? It's like I look at them and say, it's
It's like I look at them and say, it's my brother. I have the right.
my brother. I have the right. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> It's like, don't question me. And I do
>> It's like, don't question me. And I do it every time I pass. And if I pass
it every time I pass. And if I pass without seeing it, I run back and do it.
without seeing it, I run back and do it. Oh, that's awesome. And is there a
Oh, that's awesome. And is there a specific way that you reflect or is it
specific way that you reflect or is it kind of all over the board when you see
kind of all over the board when you see that pair?
that pair? The one that I really reflect on is the
The one that I really reflect on is the I did another memorial for him at a tree
I did another memorial for him at a tree on the disc golf course that is over in
on the disc golf course that is over in the island across the canal and it's in
the island across the canal and it's in a beautiful field under a big olive tree
a beautiful field under a big olive tree and I reflect there because we did place
and I reflect there because we did place some of Harry's ashes there as well.
some of Harry's ashes there as well. Okay. And so I go there a lot and talk
Okay. And so I go there a lot and talk to Harry. And so the PA I wonder
to Harry. And so the PA I wonder sometimes if I put that there for me
sometimes if I put that there for me instead of in memory of Harry because I
instead of in memory of Harry because I really enjoy stomping him and my friends
really enjoy stomping him and my friends now it's become a big joke that oh you
now it's become a big joke that oh you forgot to stomp your brother
forgot to stomp your brother >> and now my friends are stomping him. So
>> and now my friends are stomping him. So it's like
it's like >> anybody that wants to go down there feel
>> anybody that wants to go down there feel free to go stomp him. I mean he would
free to go stomp him. I mean he would love it and I know he's looking down
love it and I know he's looking down just laughing going sister
just laughing going sister >> you know he always used to say that
>> you know he always used to say that sister
sister >> so yeah that's but I do but I'm with
>> so yeah that's but I do but I'm with people usually when I walk by and so I
people usually when I walk by and so I try not to get melancholy and I focus on
try not to get melancholy and I focus on the beauty around me and and the fact
the beauty around me and and the fact that Harry is right along the canal that
that Harry is right along the canal that he used to go down
he used to go down >> or the channel
>> or the channel >> um
>> um >> on his boat. So, it's a good spot. It
>> on his boat. So, it's a good spot. It really is.
really is. >> That was absolutely awesome. I think
>> That was absolutely awesome. I think >> I apologize. I think we might need to
>> I apologize. I think we might need to get Amarie back for a nap soon.
get Amarie back for a nap soon. >> Not a problem.
>> Not a problem. >> It's been amazing learning everything
>> It's been amazing learning everything from you. And I'm hoping we can do this
from you. And I'm hoping we can do this again someday soon, perhaps at the tree
again someday soon, perhaps at the tree if you don't mind.
if you don't mind. >> I would love to do that. I mean, there's
>> I would love to do that. I mean, there's so much more that we can talk about.
so much more that we can talk about. >> So many things we haven't touched on.
>> So many things we haven't touched on. So,
So, >> I'm open to that. I really would like to
>> I'm open to that. I really would like to put it out there. A lot of the things
put it out there. A lot of the things that people didn't know about Harry, the
that people didn't know about Harry, the person, not Harry the BMXer.
person, not Harry the BMXer. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> To them, he's a legend. To me, he's my
>> To them, he's a legend. To me, he's my brother. I love deeply.
brother. I love deeply. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> That comes through.
>> That comes through. >> Yeah. And I miss him. It's a huge hole.
>> Yeah. And I miss him. It's a huge hole. I miss him.
I miss him. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And today has been been a hard day. It's
>> And today has been been a hard day. It's with with my daughter, but she's a big
with with my daughter, but she's a big support. So,
support. So, >> and the two of you are helping each
>> and the two of you are helping each other kind of navigate the emotions of
other kind of navigate the emotions of the day.
the day. >> Yeah, for sure. Got in touch with my mom
>> Yeah, for sure. Got in touch with my mom today and I know she's
today and I know she's she's kind of struggling as well.
she's kind of struggling as well. >> I I can't I can't imagine.
>> I I can't I can't imagine. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So,
>> So, >> I really can't.
>> My Yes. I know. I know. I'm sorry, Linda. She's gotten gotten a little
Linda. She's gotten gotten a little gotten a little loud,
gotten a little loud, >> but I appreciate that. I appreciate the
>> but I appreciate that. I appreciate the additional insight and the followup, and
additional insight and the followup, and I look forward to talking with you soon.
I look forward to talking with you soon. Okay.
Okay. >> Yeah, definitely.
>> Yeah, definitely. >> Say byebye. Say byebye.
>> Say byebye. Say byebye. >> Bye, Annie. Thank you for coming.
>> Bye, Annie. Thank you for coming. >> Say thank you.
>> Say thank you. Yeah. And you just head right back up
Yeah. And you just head right back up those stairs and cross the bridge and
those stairs and cross the bridge and you're right back at that that little
you're right back at that that little shop that you parked at
shop that you parked at >> these stairs here. All right. Perfect.
>> these stairs here. All right. Perfect. Perfect. I like Thanks. Thanks, Linda.
Perfect. I like Thanks. Thanks, Linda. We'll talk soon.
We'll talk soon. >> Okay. Thank you, Kyle.
>> Okay. Thank you, Kyle. >> Thank you. Bye. Bye.
>> Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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