Pump Track Chat - Builds w/ Brandon Hetrick - a discussion to learn more about pump tracks

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🎙️ Pump Track Chat Podcast | Special Guest: Brandon Hetrick
Hosted by Kyle A. Huffman | Sponsored by Lititz BMX

In this episode of Pump Track Chat, host Kyle A. Huffman sits down with professional pump track builder Brandon Hetrick for an in-depth conversation about pump tracks, community impact, and the future of action sports infrastructure in Lebanon County and Lititz, Pennsylvania.

Brandon shares his journey into professional pump track building, explains exactly what a pump track is, and breaks down who can ride one—from BMX bikes and mountain bikes to scooters, skateboards, adaptive athletes, and even wheelchairs. The discussion also explores the full pump track build process, working with municipalities, common challenges, site selection red flags, and what communities can expect once a track is completed.

💥 Big news: Brandon reveals plans to break ground on a new pump track in Lebanon County, and both Kyle and Brandon agree that Lititz and Lebanon are prime communities for pump track competitions.

This episode is a must-watch for:

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BMX & cycling enthusiasts

Parents & families

Adaptive sports advocates

Anyone curious about pump tracks and action sports development

🛠️ Topics Covered in This Episode:

What is a pump track?

Who can ride a pump track (BMX, MTB, scooters, skateboards & more)

Adaptive sports on pump tracks

Asphalt vs dirt pump track limitations

Pump track design & build process

Working with municipalities

Community support & economic impact

Pump track timelines & construction phases

Site selection & geology concerns

Post-build community response

Pump track competitions & regional networks

Why Lititz needs a pump track

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Transcript

Hey, Brandon, thanks for inviting me down to see your latest pump track
down to see your latest pump track build.
build. >> Oh, yeah. You're more than welcome.
>> Oh, yeah. You're more than welcome. Always welcome here.
Always welcome here. >> It's really cool. Now, I I've kind of
>> It's really cool. Now, I I've kind of seen some pictures of things of some of
seen some pictures of things of some of your tracks that you've built. Can you
your tracks that you've built. Can you kind of explain a little bit more about
kind of explain a little bit more about who you are as an individual and the
who you are as an individual and the company that you work for and what you
company that you work for and what you guys do?
guys do? >> I I grew up in central Pennsylvania,
>> I I grew up in central Pennsylvania, >> kind of the dirt capital of the world
>> kind of the dirt capital of the world back in the '9s. Then I was fortunate
back in the '9s. Then I was fortunate enough to watch an older generation do
enough to watch an older generation do all that amazing stuff and then I just
all that amazing stuff and then I just continued on. I I always built. I never
continued on. I I always built. I never stopped building. Even as an adult, even
stopped building. Even as an adult, even as a personal space, home, I always had
as a personal space, home, I always had something to drive. And as I got older,
something to drive. And as I got older, so I'm really just a private contractor
so I'm really just a private contractor and I work for all of the contractors
and I work for all of the contractors that build, whether that be a skate
that build, whether that be a skate park, a BMX track, a pump track, or just
park, a BMX track, a pump track, or just some oneoff ramp for an event like X
some oneoff ramp for an event like X Games, or maybe a a World Track event.
Games, or maybe a a World Track event. And through the years, I've connected
And through the years, I've connected with all of the companies is we all kind
with all of the companies is we all kind of know each other. We're all friends in
of know each other. We're all friends in some way or another, at least have
some way or another, at least have friendly competitions.
friendly competitions. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And I just like to be able to offer that
>> And I just like to be able to offer that different, let's say, connections to the
different, let's say, connections to the industry.
industry. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Where I can find what the community is
>> Where I can find what the community is looking for. So sometimes they might not
looking for. So sometimes they might not just want a skate park. They might want
just want a skate park. They might want something a little different.
something a little different. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> And there is so much to offer in our
>> And there is so much to offer in our industry at this point and just getting
industry at this point and just getting better every year. So you kind of do
better every year. So you kind of do like a gap analysis right from where are
like a gap analysis right from where are you at, where do you want to be, how do
you at, where do you want to be, how do we get there kind of thing.
we get there kind of thing. >> Yeah,
>> Yeah, >> that's awesome.
>> that's awesome. >> Just kind of listen to the customer and
>> Just kind of listen to the customer and and their community or try to see what
and their community or try to see what we can do.
we can do. >> Wow, that is cool. I love how you
>> Wow, that is cool. I love how you individualize a delivery for a community
individualize a delivery for a community and that's awesome and I'm looking
and that's awesome and I'm looking forward to seeing how that works with
forward to seeing how that works with well how that looks with regard to when
well how that looks with regard to when we move forward and how we move forward
we move forward and how we move forward as a community. Yeah, I'm super excited.
as a community. Yeah, I'm super excited. I had just glanced scrolling through the
I had just glanced scrolling through the internet and I had seen something about
internet and I had seen something about lit wanting to get the pump track and
lit wanting to get the pump track and that is way too close to home. I think
that is way too close to home. I think just a half an hour.
just a half an hour. >> Sorry, go ahead.
>> Sorry, go ahead. >> Yeah, we're asphalting up in Coleman
>> Yeah, we're asphalting up in Coleman Park in Lebanon County next spring. At
Park in Lebanon County next spring. At least that's the plan. We're well on our
least that's the plan. We're well on our way on our fundraising and we have a ton
way on our fundraising and we have a ton of support and a great spot to do it.
of support and a great spot to do it. >> Hopefully, yes, hopefully we can just
>> Hopefully, yes, hopefully we can just jump on that train and the people from
jump on that train and the people from Lin can come and see what a pump track
Lin can come and see what a pump track actually is rather than looking at
actually is rather than looking at things on the internet and and trusting
things on the internet and and trusting some other people. but they can come and
some other people. but they can come and see it for themselves just a half an
see it for themselves just a half an hour away hopefully next spring and see
hour away hopefully next spring and see all the gift brings to the community.
all the gift brings to the community. >> I love it. I absolutely love it. I'm
>> I love it. I absolutely love it. I'm excited to hear that. I didn't know. Um
excited to hear that. I didn't know. Um now you you kind of mentioned next
now you you kind of mentioned next spring. How long ago did you all start
spring. How long ago did you all start that
that I guess pitch and development process
I guess pitch and development process with that community?
with that community? >> Well, it's really been about five or six
>> Well, it's really been about five or six years. Oh wow.
years. Oh wow. >> Trying to talk to these the people that
>> Trying to talk to these the people that are in charge or the people who needs to
are in charge or the people who needs to hear all this.
hear all this. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Getting them together was very hard.
>> Getting them together was very hard. >> But I think just see we finally got our
>> But I think just see we finally got our first real meetings about a year and a
first real meetings about a year and a half ago.
half ago. >> Okay. And it's just every meeting got
>> Okay. And it's just every meeting got got a little more traction, a little
got a little more traction, a little more people was interested and they
more people was interested and they attended the next meeting and and now
attended the next meeting and and now it's it's a serious thing and we've got
it's it's a serious thing and we've got financial backing and I hope it's going
financial backing and I hope it's going to happen.
to happen. >> I love it. Well on our way.
>> I love it. Well on our way. >> I love it. I've actually already gotten
>> I love it. I've actually already gotten the ear of Senator Martin. I don't know
the ear of Senator Martin. I don't know if you sure who he is, but he's a state
if you sure who he is, but he's a state senator from Lancaster who used to ride
senator from Lancaster who used to ride BMX here in Litz. So, that's a a
BMX here in Litz. So, that's a a positive. I'm going to be speaking with
positive. I'm going to be speaking with him soon. I'm kind of working on my list
him soon. I'm kind of working on my list of questions. And I'm a little nervous,
of questions. And I'm a little nervous, but you know, I'll get over that. And
but you know, I'll get over that. And then I'm also kind of tagging some
then I'm also kind of tagging some people at Fulton Bank because I when I
people at Fulton Bank because I when I retired, I retired from Fulton Bank and
retired, I retired from Fulton Bank and I'm I founded the Veterans Employer
I'm I founded the Veterans Employer Resource Group there. So, I'm hoping we
Resource Group there. So, I'm hoping we can say, "Hey, remember me and maybe get
can say, "Hey, remember me and maybe get Holton to support this community project
Holton to support this community project in some form or fashion." Fingers
in some form or fashion." Fingers crossed.
crossed. >> Yeah, that would be great. Any amount of
>> Yeah, that would be great. Any amount of support just goes a long way, especially
support just goes a long way, especially from a bank.
from a bank. >> That's awesome.
>> That's awesome. >> Yeah. So, we'll we'll see. Who knows?
>> Yeah. So, we'll we'll see. Who knows? You know, I think I'll be picking your
You know, I think I'll be picking your brain more about that moving forward.
brain more about that moving forward. But I guess let's just start with this
But I guess let's just start with this if you don't mind. From your definition,
if you don't mind. From your definition, fundamentally, can you define what a
fundamentally, can you define what a pump track is?
pump track is? >> My personal definition of a pump track
>> My personal definition of a pump track is a single lane BMX track.
is a single lane BMX track. >> Really meant for one rider to go around
>> Really meant for one rider to go around in a lap. They're usually laps. Uh even
in a lap. They're usually laps. Uh even though they might be hard to see,
though they might be hard to see, >> okay,
>> okay, >> but to me, it's just as simple as a
>> but to me, it's just as simple as a single lane BMX track. Okay,
single lane BMX track. Okay, >> some of them are better than others, but
>> some of them are better than others, but that to me that's the best way to
that to me that's the best way to describe it. I grew up racing BMX and
describe it. I grew up racing BMX and getting out on a pump track just takes
getting out on a pump track just takes me back to the BMX days on the track.
me back to the BMX days on the track. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> But even a better version.
>> But even a better version. >> Now, that's your personal opinion, I'm
>> Now, that's your personal opinion, I'm assuming. And that kind of asks answers
assuming. And that kind of asks answers a question that I was going to ask cuz I
a question that I was going to ask cuz I was going to ask what your weapon of
was going to ask what your weapon of choice is here. whether that was BMX or
choice is here. whether that was BMX or mountain bike or I don't know an adult
mountain bike or I don't know an adult balance bike or a scooter or skateboard
balance bike or a scooter or skateboard or what. But you answered that question.
or what. But you answered that question. >> Yep. Always always on the BMX bike. But
>> Yep. Always always on the BMX bike. But you will I will gladly borrow a little
you will I will gladly borrow a little kid's scooter or a skateboard or any
kid's scooter or a skateboard or any other weird thing that they might have
other weird thing that they might have on their pump track. And that's part of
on their pump track. And that's part of the awesome part of a pump track cuz you
the awesome part of a pump track cuz you can have all wheels on it to share with
can have all wheels on it to share with everybody.
everybody. >> That's what I was going to ask. Yeah,
>> That's what I was going to ask. Yeah, because I know you mentioned in your
because I know you mentioned in your personal definition BMX, but
personal definition BMX, but professionally you I've heard that at
professionally you I've heard that at least I'm pretty sure that they make
least I'm pretty sure that they make these some communities make ADA
these some communities make ADA compliant tracks or at least ADA
compliant tracks or at least ADA friendly tracks. Is that something that
friendly tracks. Is that something that you can help bring to the community? Cuz
you can help bring to the community? Cuz I think that's a big selling factor.
I think that's a big selling factor. >> Oh yeah, the ADA compliance. I think
>> Oh yeah, the ADA compliance. I think there might be two or three tracks that
there might be two or three tracks that actually comply to the the ADA rules. Um
actually comply to the the ADA rules. Um years ago we were in Port Angeles,
years ago we were in Port Angeles, Washington.
Washington. >> Aaron Aaron Wheels Carter. was helping
>> Aaron Aaron Wheels Carter. was helping with that bill and the representatives
with that bill and the representatives from the American Disability Association
from the American Disability Association were there to try to understand how we
were there to try to understand how we could all work together to make this
could all work together to make this work and helped create guidelines as
work and helped create guidelines as well figuring things out for them. So
well figuring things out for them. So technically there's probably only two
technically there's probably only two ADA compliant pump tracks but there are
ADA compliant pump tracks but there are quite a handful of ADA friendly I think
quite a handful of ADA friendly I think is the language we want to use. Fair
is the language we want to use. Fair enough. Would the price difference in
enough. Would the price difference in trying to elevate that from BMX to ADA
trying to elevate that from BMX to ADA friendly to ADA compliant, is there a
friendly to ADA compliant, is there a significant cost increase associated
significant cost increase associated with those steps?
with those steps? >> There's not a significant cost increase.
>> There's not a significant cost increase. It really comes down to the management
It really comes down to the management side of that and the communication
side of that and the communication between parties and communication from
between parties and communication from management to the build. The builders
management to the build. The builders are good. They understand what needs to
are good. They understand what needs to happen and can generally do that work
happen and can generally do that work very easily. But getting the
very easily. But getting the communication from disabled rider or
communication from disabled rider or what do we call that?
what do we call that? >> Adaptive sports participant
>> Adaptive sports participant maybe something like that.
maybe something like that. >> No, they I think we just did one in city
>> No, they I think we just did one in city and they had some very unique bikes. It
and they had some very unique bikes. It wasn't for wheelchairs. So the one in
wasn't for wheelchairs. So the one in Port Angeles is for wheelchair riders.
Port Angeles is for wheelchair riders. Like that's not a bike at all. It's a
Like that's not a bike at all. It's a wheelchair.
wheelchair. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> And that's the ADA compliant pump track.
>> And that's the ADA compliant pump track. It's actually for a wheelchair. It's not
It's actually for a wheelchair. It's not for a bike.
for a bike. >> Wow. Okay.
>> Wow. Okay. >> Which is even better.
>> Which is even better. >> Wow.
>> Wow. >> Yeah. It was very awesome. And there was
>> Yeah. It was very awesome. And there was great learning experience.
great learning experience. >> That's great.
>> That's great. >> But the adaptive riders.
>> But the adaptive riders. >> It's the adaptive riders.
>> It's the adaptive riders. >> Adaptive riders.
>> Adaptive riders. Yes, they have these awesome bikes. They
Yes, they have these awesome bikes. They could be three wheels or four wheels.
could be three wheels or four wheels. Now they have the ebike versions and
Now they have the ebike versions and they are just really, really fun to
they are just really, really fun to ride.
ride. >> Yeah, that's awesome.
>> Yeah, that's awesome. >> And the building the shapes to get them
>> And the building the shapes to get them wheels to roll around is kind of
wheels to roll around is kind of difficult and done by the builders on
difficult and done by the builders on the ground.
the ground. >> Fair enough.
>> Fair enough. for just so I can mentally wrap my head
for just so I can mentally wrap my head around it because you mentioned five or
around it because you mentioned five or 6 years for the build process previously
6 years for the build process previously in the Lebanon community with regards to
in the Lebanon community with regards to lit itself if we were to say quote
lit itself if we were to say quote unquote fasttrack it right or lit we
unquote fasttrack it right or lit we walked in on December 30th and they say
walked in on December 30th and they say hey we heard your podcast we love the
hey we heard your podcast we love the idea everybody here's all for it let's
idea everybody here's all for it let's make this happen
make this happen when we honestly be looking at maybe a
when we honestly be looking at maybe a ribbon cutting ceremony
ribbon cutting ceremony early spring. As soon as the weather
early spring. As soon as the weather clears up and the asphalt plant is open,
clears up and the asphalt plant is open, we can build a track in one week and we
we can build a track in one week and we can manage and design it, get everything
can manage and design it, get everything ready, all the management side of it in
ready, all the management side of it in a few days and just a couple weeks of a
a few days and just a couple weeks of a build time, you could be open by early
build time, you could be open by early as possible.
as possible. >> Wow. Okay. I didn't realize that
>> Wow. Okay. I didn't realize that quickly.
quickly. >> What was that?
>> What was that? >> Yeah. Weather pending. weather bending.
>> Yeah. Weather pending. weather bending. >> Yeah, asphalt can be laid in the cold
>> Yeah, asphalt can be laid in the cold >> and generally plants shut down for the
>> and generally plants shut down for the winter. I'm not sure about in central
winter. I'm not sure about in central Pennsylvania area. It might be open for
Pennsylvania area. It might be open for the winter. I wouldn't advise doing that
the winter. I wouldn't advise doing that in the cold.
in the cold. >> So, don't do it in the cold. Everything
>> So, don't do it in the cold. Everything is laid by hand. So I guess are there
is laid by hand. So I guess are there any immediate red flags for project
any immediate red flags for project areas that municipalities may be
areas that municipalities may be considering like [music] from maybe
considering like [music] from maybe geological perspectives or anything?
geological perspectives or anything? >> Can you elaborate on that?
>> Can you elaborate on that? >> Sure. Like okay so I'm a California
>> Sure. Like okay so I'm a California transplant and everything in California
transplant and everything in California requires an environmental study and very
requires an environmental study and very little progress can be made. I'm not
little progress can be made. I'm not bashing California, right? I'm not
bashing California, right? I'm not trying to do that here. I'm just saying
trying to do that here. I'm just saying a reality is very seems that very little
a reality is very seems that very little progress can be made because of
progress can be made because of environmental issues quite often. So in
environmental issues quite often. So in this as someone who knows this area
this as someone who knows this area pretty well, is there anything that you
pretty well, is there anything that you could potentially foresee as being a
could potentially foresee as being a geographical area? Maybe even like is
geographical area? Maybe even like is something as simple simple wrong word. I
something as simple simple wrong word. I don't know the right word. Maybe we
don't know the right word. Maybe we might run into an Indian burial ground
might run into an Indian burial ground site or an excavation issue or what red
site or an excavation issue or what red flags have you seen in this area that we
flags have you seen in this area that we may run into? The only red flag that
may run into? The only red flag that I've seen in our area is water drainage
I've seen in our area is water drainage issues and getting a survey on where the
issues and getting a survey on where the water's going to go and what it might
water's going to go and what it might potentially do.
potentially do. >> Okay,
>> Okay, >> that's that's really the biggest thing
>> that's that's really the biggest thing in our area.
in our area. >> Okay,
>> Okay, >> I've hit pipes and wires that we've had
>> I've hit pipes and wires that we've had flagged and they got lost and so I don't
flagged and they got lost and so I don't think that's really a geological feature
think that's really a geological feature thing, but
thing, but >> the only thing I can think of is just
>> the only thing I can think of is just the water sheeting. I know generally
the water sheeting. I know generally east coast builds want to see some sort
east coast builds want to see some sort of water survey.
of water survey. >> Ah, okay. Okay. I mean, that makes
>> Ah, okay. Okay. I mean, that makes sense. So, I appreciate you kind of
sense. So, I appreciate you kind of giving me insight on that side cuz I I
giving me insight on that side cuz I I didn't think about I did think about the
didn't think about I did think about the drainage a little bit, but the water sur
drainage a little bit, but the water sur that's really up to your local
that's really up to your local municipalities on how they treat the
municipalities on how they treat the seriousness of that. Some people in
seriousness of that. Some people in charge might see it as negligible and
charge might see it as negligible and just give it an okay and not really need
just give it an okay and not really need a study. And and it all depends on where
a study. And and it all depends on where it's going to be at.
it's going to be at. >> Sure. And there's a lot of places need.
>> Sure. And there's a lot of places need. >> Yeah. And there's a lot of places that I
>> Yeah. And there's a lot of places that I think would work great here and lit for
think would work great here and lit for it. I know one of my buddies really
it. I know one of my buddies really wants it at Lit Springs Park.
wants it at Lit Springs Park. You know, Litz as kind of a local
You know, Litz as kind of a local resident and a builder. How do you see a
resident and a builder. How do you see a pump track doing in Litz?
pump track doing in Litz? >> Amazing. It It'll be constantly full
>> Amazing. It It'll be constantly full with local population and people from an
with local population and people from an hour plus away.
hour plus away. >> I travel the country to go ride these
>> I travel the country to go ride these things and I meet many people who do the
things and I meet many people who do the same.
same. >> Yeah, that's awesome. I heard there's
>> Yeah, that's awesome. I heard there's like competitions and all that stuff and
like competitions and all that stuff and those are kind of growing in popularity.
those are kind of growing in popularity. So, you know, this could become
So, you know, this could become something that becomes part of a of a
something that becomes part of a of a circuit potentially, right?
circuit potentially, right? >> Oh, yes. This is just the beginning of
>> Oh, yes. This is just the beginning of all the pump track racing and and that's
all the pump track racing and and that's all starting to take shape and this
all starting to take shape and this bright future. We're pushing for an
bright future. We're pushing for an Olympic run and
Olympic run and >> oh,
>> oh, >> not the next one, but the Olympics have
>> not the next one, but the Olympics have been talked about of getting the pump
been talked about of getting the pump tracks into the Olympics. So,
tracks into the Olympics. So, >> I love it.
>> I love it. >> Hopefully, we can do it cuz it's a UCI
>> Hopefully, we can do it cuz it's a UCI sport now. And
sport now. And >> love it. You know, speaking of UCI, did
>> love it. You know, speaking of UCI, did you know that I the museum on Felicia
you know that I the museum on Felicia Stansel's 2012 UCI time trial and world
Stansel's 2012 UCI time trial and world championship bike with the number one
championship bike with the number one plate?
plate? >> Oh, that's awesome.
>> Oh, that's awesome. >> Yep. It's Oh, man.
>> Yep. It's Oh, man. >> That's awesome. She's fast, man. She's
>> That's awesome. She's fast, man. She's fast. I've got to ride with her on a
fast. I've got to ride with her on a pump track a couple times.
pump track a couple times. >> No way. How was that? if you don't mind
>> No way. How was that? if you don't mind sharing a little bit.
sharing a little bit. >> Oh, it was great. I was at the first Red
>> Oh, it was great. I was at the first Red Bull Pump Track World Championship in
Bull Pump Track World Championship in Springdale, Arkansas, and it was one of
Springdale, Arkansas, and it was one of the best events I've ever been at for
the best events I've ever been at for BMX.
BMX. >> Oh, wow. That is awesome. That is
>> Oh, wow. That is awesome. That is awesome.
awesome. >> All the top pros or all the top girl
>> All the top pros or all the top girl pros were there and it was so fun to try
pros were there and it was so fun to try to keep up with them.
to keep up with them. >> I love
>> I love >> Oh, I wouldn't even No, they Yeah. Nope.
>> Oh, I wouldn't even No, they Yeah. Nope. I mad respect, but it was cool because I
I mad respect, but it was cool because I became kind of a like an old Powderpuff
became kind of a like an old Powderpuff fan through Kathy, Hannah, and a few
fan through Kathy, Hannah, and a few other people. And then I saw this bike
other people. And then I saw this bike and I was like, "No, I'm not looking."
and I was like, "No, I'm not looking." I'm like, I am looking at what I'm
I'm like, I am looking at what I'm seeing. And I I got it and I was like, I
seeing. And I I got it and I was like, I just I actually rode it the last ride.
just I actually rode it the last ride. We have an old school guy ride an old at
We have an old school guy ride an old at Harrisburg and I rode it there and man,
Harrisburg and I rode it there and man, that thing rode like butter. It's h I
that thing rode like butter. It's h I love it. But that is cool. And then I
love it. But that is cool. And then I guess so you kind of mentioned bringing
guess so you kind of mentioned bringing people into the community. You mentioned
people into the community. You mentioned potential circuit events here.
potential circuit events here. Can you explain from what you've seen
Can you explain from what you've seen how pump tracks have helped local
how pump tracks have helped local businesses, especially local businesses
businesses, especially local businesses that have supported that track?
that have supported that track? >> Well, definitely the bike shops are
>> Well, definitely the bike shops are going to feel an impact
going to feel an impact of a pump track.
of a pump track. >> Yeah,
>> Yeah, >> sure. But for guys like me who want to
>> sure. But for guys like me who want to travel and take our friends and we're
travel and take our friends and we're going to go get lunch,
going to go get lunch, we might check out another local
we might check out another local attraction and let it. It might be
attraction and let it. It might be Wilbur chocolate, you know.
Wilbur chocolate, you know. >> There you go. Might be Wilbur Chocolate.
>> There you go. Might be Wilbur Chocolate. Everybody loves Wilbur, right?
Everybody loves Wilbur, right? >> Yeah. Lett is just such a great spot for
>> Yeah. Lett is just such a great spot for the pump truck because it does have that
the pump truck because it does have that tourism side and it would just be an
tourism side and it would just be an asset to the tourism.
asset to the tourism. >> Absolutely. These bikes are $10,000 that
>> Absolutely. These bikes are $10,000 that these guys are bringing to the pump
these guys are bringing to the pump tracks.
tracks. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> It's it's amazing what bikes cost now.
>> It's it's amazing what bikes cost now. So,
So, >> yeah,
>> yeah, >> we do have some very good local bike
>> we do have some very good local bike shops. There is the Litz Bike Works, but
shops. There is the Litz Bike Works, but there's also Martins. There's Green
there's also Martins. There's Green Mountain Cyclery. Plenty of shops for
Mountain Cyclery. Plenty of shops for people to look around in the area to to
people to look around in the area to to purchase.
purchase. >> Yeah, I definitely think it would help
>> Yeah, I definitely think it would help the shops and and the shops could help
the shops and and the shops could help the culture.
the culture. >> Yeah. You know, if we could start
>> Yeah. You know, if we could start putting BMX bikes back in the shops for
putting BMX bikes back in the shops for the kids that want to go ride the pump
the kids that want to go ride the pump track.
track. >> And Green Mountain Cycling. Oh man, I
>> And Green Mountain Cycling. Oh man, I they did a lot for BMX tracks back in
they did a lot for BMX tracks back in the day. I can remember seeing their
the day. I can remember seeing their jerseys. I think I might even have one.
jerseys. I think I might even have one. >> Your opinion about Green Mountain Cycler
>> Your opinion about Green Mountain Cycler cuz I'm learning of them through a buddy
cuz I'm learning of them through a buddy and I am excited to go and meet Mike.
and I am excited to go and meet Mike. But what do you know about them? I'm
But what do you know about them? I'm curious. I started racing at 11 years
curious. I started racing at 11 years old and and Lebanon Crankers was my home
old and and Lebanon Crankers was my home track and I can remember seeing the
track and I can remember seeing the Green Mountain jerseys and their team up
Green Mountain jerseys and their team up there every
there every >> whatever day we raced. I think it was a
>> whatever day we raced. I think it was a Tuesday
Tuesday >> and then maybe a Saturday and those guys
>> and then maybe a Saturday and those guys were fast and awesome, friendly and just
were fast and awesome, friendly and just nice.
nice. >> Those guys are awesome. I was just a
>> Those guys are awesome. I was just a kid.
kid. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Heavily influenced by by their niceness
>> Heavily influenced by by their niceness there. I can remember like getting help
there. I can remember like getting help from them with my bikes, greasing my
from them with my bikes, greasing my chain, pumping my tires up, just making
chain, pumping my tires up, just making sure everything was correct, you know.
sure everything was correct, you know. >> Love it.
>> Love it. >> They didn't have to do that. So,
>> They didn't have to do that. So, >> that is great.
>> that is great. >> So, getting ready to close it out kind
>> So, getting ready to close it out kind of final elevator speech.
of final elevator speech. Why is a pump track a must have in the
Why is a pump track a must have in the litics community?
litics community? a pump track. It's such a
a pump track. It's such a such a unique attraction
such a unique attraction that kind of caters to everyone.
that kind of caters to everyone. The parents that bring their children to
The parents that bring their children to the pump track, I think just visually
the pump track, I think just visually sitting there looking at it is pleasant.
sitting there looking at it is pleasant. [music]
[music] It looks really neat.
It looks really neat. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And that's in lit. I think that's an
>> And that's in lit. I think that's an important thing where whereas a state
important thing where whereas a state park can kind of look a little little
park can kind of look a little little rough or chunky where whereas a pump
rough or chunky where whereas a pump track just beautiful curves and flow. So
track just beautiful curves and flow. So >> yeah,
>> yeah, >> it provides a visual statement but but
>> it provides a visual statement but but then the health and the health benefits
then the health and the health benefits you get from it, the awareness that it
you get from it, the awareness that it creates in you, the the sharing that you
creates in you, the the sharing that you have to do that all translates into
have to do that all translates into regular life.
regular life. >> True. Whether you know it or not, it's
>> True. Whether you know it or not, it's happening. It just helps create better
happening. It just helps create better people. And on the surface, it's just an
people. And on the surface, it's just an awesome thing to go and ride your bike
awesome thing to go and ride your bike on or skateboard or scooter or one wheel
on or skateboard or scooter or one wheel or whatever thing you can get on there
or whatever thing you can get on there and and have fun. Heck
and and have fun. Heck >> yeah. I love it.
>> yeah. I love it. >> Cers so many different groups. Like I
>> Cers so many different groups. Like I said, even the parents sitting there are
said, even the parents sitting there are going to enjoy sitting there looking at
going to enjoy sitting there looking at this beautiful track.
this beautiful track. >> Yeah,
>> Yeah, >> that's one thing I love about pump
>> that's one thing I love about pump track. They are pleasant on the eyes. I
track. They are pleasant on the eyes. I enjoy the lines. Like just looking at
enjoy the lines. Like just looking at the the two parallel lines in that
the the two parallel lines in that asphalt or dirt path that goes between
asphalt or dirt path that goes between them. It's pretty fun to look at.
them. It's pretty fun to look at. >> Yeah. Some of these pump tracks are so
>> Yeah. Some of these pump tracks are so beautiful. I sometimes I think like if
beautiful. I sometimes I think like if aliens ever come to visit, they're going
aliens ever come to visit, they're going to look at these pump tracks and like,
to look at these pump tracks and like, whoa, what's
whoa, what's >> Well, you just piqu my interest. You
>> Well, you just piqu my interest. You said beautiful. And I I was thinking
said beautiful. And I I was thinking about this. We didn't talk about this,
about this. We didn't talk about this, but I think a lot of community has built
but I think a lot of community has built up benches and
up benches and flower and gardens and things like that
flower and gardens and things like that around the pump tracks that beautify
around the pump tracks that beautify those lines even more. Am I right on or
those lines even more. Am I right on or is that something I'm crazy thinking?
is that something I'm crazy thinking? >> Yes. Yeah. There are so many beautiful
>> Yes. Yeah. There are so many beautiful pump tracks and that truly is an
pump tracks and that truly is an investment. I mean, the pump tracks can
investment. I mean, the pump tracks can be pricey themselves. So, when you start
be pricey themselves. So, when you start wanting to make it beautiful, it's an
wanting to make it beautiful, it's an investment, but well worth it. that
investment, but well worth it. that thing will see magazines and tourism
thing will see magazines and tourism books and
books and >> bring people from all over to come see
>> bring people from all over to come see that thing.
that thing. >> Yeah, look at that.
>> Yeah, look at that. >> Because even non riders love looking at
>> Because even non riders love looking at it like, "Wow, this it's really
it like, "Wow, this it's really awesome."
awesome." >> And they're fun to watch people ride,
>> And they're fun to watch people ride, >> you know? And that's it's awesome. Even
>> you know? And that's it's awesome. Even if you can't participate, the great
if you can't participate, the great thing is that a lot of people in a lot
thing is that a lot of people in a lot of different types of sports activities
of different types of sports activities can participate, but if you can't, it's
can participate, but if you can't, it's fun to watch. It's fun to watch,
fun to watch. It's fun to watch, especially when the races come into town
especially when the races come into town and
and >> Yeah,
>> Yeah, >> it's good viewings.
>> it's good viewings. >> Love it. All right. Well, hey, I'm going
>> Love it. All right. Well, hey, I'm going to let you go. I appreciate you letting
to let you go. I appreciate you letting me pick your brain for a few. I'm going
me pick your brain for a few. I'm going to get out of here and let you get back
to get out of here and let you get back to work with what you guys are building
to work with what you guys are building out here. It looks really, really cool.
out here. It looks really, really cool. And I'm excited to ride it and ride with
And I'm excited to ride it and ride with you in the future here in Litics.
you in the future here in Litics. >> Yes, likewise. And Lebanon. Well, twin
>> Yes, likewise. And Lebanon. Well, twin tracks.
tracks. >> You're right. We can have competitions,
>> You're right. We can have competitions, right? Lebanon versus lit. We're going
right? Lebanon versus lit. We're going to smoke you guys.
to smoke you guys. >> This sound
>> This sound >> This sounds Oh, it's on, brother.
>> This sounds Oh, it's on, brother. >> Let's do it, [laughter]
>> Let's do it, [laughter] man. You take care. Enjoy the rest of
man. You take care. Enjoy the rest of your evening.
your evening. >> You, too. Thank you, Kyle.
>> You, too. Thank you, Kyle. >> Thank you. Bye-bye.

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