Fireside BMX Chat (Audio Only) Episode 4: Team USA's Greg Mathias Shares - Harry Leary's Legacy @HOF

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Fireside BMX Chat Podcast: "Chasing Harry" Series - Episode 4 - BMX Team USA’s Greg Mathias Talks About His Friend, Harry Leary, while touring the National BMX Hall of Fame (HoF) 

In the fourth episode of the highly anticipated "Chasing Harry" podcast series, BMX Team USA rider Greg Mathias sits down with host Kyle A. Huffman at the iconic National BMX Hall of Fame (HoF) for an in-depth conversation about the legendary BMX racer, Harry Leary. This emotional and inspiring episode explores Harry's incredible legacy and his lasting impact on the sport of BMX.

As Greg and Kyle tour the Hall of Fame, they dive into a collection of unforgettable stories and memorabilia from Harry's career, reflecting on his remarkable achievements and his unforgettable personality. 

Greg Mathias opens up about his relationship with Harry Leary, reflecting on how they trained together and how Harry became a mentor. Greg also reveals his thoughts on Harry’s struggles and the deep connection they shared, which ultimately led Greg to become Harry's "safe zone."

Highlights:

1. Harry Leary's Iconic 24” Daylight BMX Bike: The episode kicks off with a discussion of Harry’s famous 24" Daylight BMX bike, which is displayed at the HoF. Harry won the 2022 ROC 1 plate on it. 

2. The Story of Harry’s 20” Daylight Bike: Listeners will hear an unforgettable anecdote about Harry’s original 20” Daylight BMX bike—famous for allegedly being run over by a car. Greg and Kyle share their recollections, diving deep into the story about it.

3. The Tragic End of Harry’s Life: The episode takes a somber turn as Greg recounts the heartbreaking events surrounding Harry’s death. Harry’s tragic end in the Arizona desert, from heatstroke after a solo drive, still haunts Greg. In a powerful reflection, Greg shares how BMX lost a racer, true mentor,  and ambassador of the sport.

4. The Return of Harry’s Stolen BMX Bike: Listeners will be riveted by the story of how Greg helped recover Harry's stolen loaner 20” Daylight BMX bike after a six-month effort. It’s a tale of persistence and the deep bond shared by BMX riders, as Greg worked alongside Rob Porter to return the bike to its rightful place at Daylight BMX.

5. Harry Leary’s Enduring Influence on BMX: Greg Mathias emphasizes Harry’s lasting influence on BMX, both as a rider and a businessman. From Harry’s years of training to his impactful role as the face of Diamondback and Western Sports, Greg paints a picture of a man whose legacy continues to shape the sport.

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Man, look at that. >> Nice bike, isn't it?
>> Nice bike, isn't it? >> It sure is. Actually, a friend of mine,
>> It sure is. Actually, a friend of mine, I've only ever met him online, is
I've only ever met him online, is meeting us here, and he actually donated
meeting us here, and he actually donated this bike to the Hall of Fame. I'm
this bike to the Hall of Fame. I'm really excited to meet him in person.
really excited to meet him in person. >> Oh, is his name Greg Matias?
>> Oh, is his name Greg Matias? >> It It is Greg. Hey,
>> It It is Greg. Hey, >> it's happening.
>> it's happening. >> Wow. Hey, it's nice to finally meet you.
>> Wow. Hey, it's nice to finally meet you. This is
This is >> Yeah, you too.
>> Yeah, you too. >> Thank you. This is Ann Marie.
>> Thank you. This is Ann Marie. >> Hi, Ann.
>> Hi, Ann. >> Hi. Wow. like you guys know each other
>> Hi. Wow. like you guys know each other so well, but no, what a great great
so well, but no, what a great great thing to see.
thing to see. >> She's a sweetheart.
>> She's a sweetheart. >> She is. We appreciate that. Thank you.
>> She is. We appreciate that. Thank you. Uh so my wife is meeting up with a
Uh so my wife is meeting up with a friend today, so we're having a daddy
friend today, so we're having a daddy daughter day instead. I guess that's
daughter day instead. I guess that's kind of a daddy daughter, Uncle Greg
kind of a daddy daughter, Uncle Greg day, but but yeah. Uh so this bike, this
day, but but yeah. Uh so this bike, this was Harry's
was Harry's 24in Daylight that he won the ROC1 on in
24in Daylight that he won the ROC1 on in 2022. Yeah, that was his last ROC1
2022. Yeah, that was his last ROC1 plate that he got. That was from the
plate that he got. That was from the last national that he did. That was the
last national that he did. That was the bike he was riding, which I purchased
bike he was riding, which I purchased from him shortly after the Grand. And I
from him shortly after the Grand. And I rode it for about 6 months. It was the
rode it for about 6 months. It was the bike uh I think I sent you a photo. I
bike uh I think I sent you a photo. I was uh I was given old Eric RP there a
was uh I was given old Eric RP there a walk for in Oregon.
walk for in Oregon. >> You sent me that. I saw the pictures of
>> You sent me that. I saw the pictures of RP riding it. I was like, man, that is
RP riding it. I was like, man, that is really cool. the lineage of that bike at
really cool. the lineage of that bike at this point.
this point. >> Yeah. So, it's a bike I was riding
>> Yeah. So, it's a bike I was riding there. I had trained on that quite a bit
there. I had trained on that quite a bit with Harry before the that nationally.
with Harry before the that nationally. He was supposed to go to that national
He was supposed to go to that national with me, but he had to work.
with me, but he had to work. >> So, you rode it for six months. It was
>> So, you rode it for six months. It was Harry's. R took a spin on it and then
Harry's. R took a spin on it and then you donated it with the plate. Is that
you donated it with the plate. Is that correct? You donated to the Hall of
correct? You donated to the Hall of Fame?
Fame? >> Yes, it was donated to the Hall of Fame
>> Yes, it was donated to the Hall of Fame with the RC1 plate.
with the RC1 plate. >> Wow. We also donated I think I had one
>> Wow. We also donated I think I had one of his bobbleheads that I had made.
of his bobbleheads that I had made. >> I wanted to ask you about that. I want
>> I wanted to ask you about that. I want to see it. Yeah, I know that case is
to see it. Yeah, I know that case is around here somewhere. I'm sure
around here somewhere. I'm sure >> in the cases there's a bobblehead
>> in the cases there's a bobblehead miniature frame that Glinda donated his
miniature frame that Glinda donated his sister.
sister. >> Oh, I love that. So, you've worked with
>> Oh, I love that. So, you've worked with Gork essentially to make these
Gork essentially to make these donations, right?
donations, right? >> Yeah, I've known Gork a long time, but
>> Yeah, I've known Gork a long time, but yeah, I worked with worked with him and
yeah, I worked with worked with him and >> made the donations down there. Took them
>> made the donations down there. Took them down there. Actually, I took them. I
down there. Actually, I took them. I didn't do grants that year, the last
didn't do grants that year, the last year, but I took those bikes down there.
year, but I took those bikes down there. >> Oh, wow. Essentially, you've had, for
>> Oh, wow. Essentially, you've had, for the lack of a better word, an easy
the lack of a better word, an easy process making donations to the National
process making donations to the National BMX Hall of Fame.
BMX Hall of Fame. >> Yeah. I mean, they'll take just about
>> Yeah. I mean, they'll take just about anything. And, you know, you normally
anything. And, you know, you normally can donate it. You can also put them on
can donate it. You can also put them on loan to the museum, too, if it's
loan to the museum, too, if it's something you think you want back later.
something you think you want back later. That the paint job on that bike is
That the paint job on that bike is amazing. The American flag with the gold
amazing. The American flag with the gold lettering.
lettering. >> Yeah, it is. I got a duplicate being
>> Yeah, it is. I got a duplicate being made right now. I should have it
made right now. I should have it hopefully before I go to worlds.
hopefully before I go to worlds. >> Oh, really?
>> Oh, really? >> Yeah. Had that kind of duplicated so
>> Yeah. Had that kind of duplicated so it'll look just like that one.
it'll look just like that one. >> That is awesome. You see Ann loves it
>> That is awesome. You see Ann loves it too, right?
too, right? >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah.
And then kind of speaking of Harry and Daylight, it's kind of on that topic. I
Daylight, it's kind of on that topic. I heard an interesting story about his
heard an interesting story about his 20-in daylight bike, too. I'm not sure
20-in daylight bike, too. I'm not sure if you're okay with talking about that.
if you're okay with talking about that. >> Nothing to hide there.
>> Nothing to hide there. >> Okay. So, Harry had another daylight
>> Okay. So, Harry had another daylight bike that was run over in a parking lot
bike that was run over in a parking lot while you he was setting up for sprints.
while you he was setting up for sprints. >> Yeah, it got run over by somebody
>> Yeah, it got run over by somebody supposedly. It could have been run over
supposedly. It could have been run over by him. I you know that's still
by him. I you know that's still debatable, but we'll do we'll just go
debatable, but we'll do we'll just go with what he told me. It was run over by
with what he told me. It was run over by some kids in the parking lot.
some kids in the parking lot. >> Fair enough. Okay. Um I'll take that.
>> Fair enough. Okay. Um I'll take that. So then he got a replacement and his
So then he got a replacement and his replacement started out as the daylight
replacement started out as the daylight owner's daughter's personal bike which
owner's daughter's personal bike which was loan to Harry.
was loan to Harry. >> Yes, that was Daily Correct. Daylight
>> Yes, that was Daily Correct. Daylight owner's personal frame. It wasn't
owner's personal frame. It wasn't Hannah. It was I can't remember her name
Hannah. It was I can't remember her name now, but it was her bike. So, we put
now, but it was her bike. So, we put that together for him and he was getting
that together for him and he was getting ready to race again on that.
ready to race again on that. >> I wasn't sure how that worked out, but
>> I wasn't sure how that worked out, but that's kind of that's kind of
that's kind of that's kind of interesting. So, like he fell
interesting. So, like he fell >> he loved those bikes. Yeah, he loved
>> he loved those bikes. Yeah, he loved those bikes. All he'd ever say is those
those bikes. All he'd ever say is those are the best handling bikes I ever rode,
are the best handling bikes I ever rode, you know? And he's
you know? And he's like, "What better testament do you need
like, "What better testament do you need than that, you know?"
than that, you know?" >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. There's no better
>> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. There's no better testament than that, I don't think.
testament than that, I don't think. >> Yeah. We We trained our asses off and he
>> Yeah. We We trained our asses off and he was on that bike. It had mushrooms on
was on that bike. It had mushrooms on it.
it. >> I don't know if I saw that on there.
>> I don't know if I saw that on there. >> Yeah, it had magic mushrooms. I used to
>> Yeah, it had magic mushrooms. I used to give him a hard time about all the time.
give him a hard time about all the time. Like, damn. Bikes got freaking drugs on
Like, damn. Bikes got freaking drugs on it. Mushrooms.
it. Mushrooms. >> Funny considering I I know there's a a
>> Funny considering I I know there's a a prominent Say no to drugs signature
prominent Say no to drugs signature campaign that he was a part of at Point.
campaign that he was a part of at Point. So, that's funny. So yeah, he put that
So, that's funny. So yeah, he put that together and we were we were training up
together and we were we were training up to the time he last time I saw him.
to the time he last time I saw him. >> And that's I guess that's one question.
>> And that's I guess that's one question. You were running a clinic with him the
You were running a clinic with him the day before he passed.
day before he passed. >> No, actually it was a practice night at
>> No, actually it was a practice night at Black Mountain. So it was a Wednesday
Black Mountain. So it was a Wednesday night.
night. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> And we were just doing our usual
>> And we were just doing our usual practice. We practiced till pretty much
practice. We practiced till pretty much time from the close. and uh you know he
time from the close. and uh you know he he seemed fine and everything else and
he seemed fine and everything else and he was off. I know he was off the next
he was off. I know he was off the next two days and it was basically the last
two days and it was basically the last time I saw him. He would text me every
time I saw him. He would text me every morning so it was kind of weird. Next
morning so it was kind of weird. Next morning he didn't text me.
morning he didn't text me. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And uh so I I texted him several times
>> And uh so I I texted him several times throughout the day and called him and I
throughout the day and called him and I couldn't get a hold of him, you know,
couldn't get a hold of him, you know, for a couple days. I texted him and told
for a couple days. I texted him and told him I was going to come over to his
him I was going to come over to his apartment and kick his ass.
apartment and kick his ass. >> Yeah. No, I got
>> Yeah. No, I got >> He didn't answer obviously. Linda called
>> He didn't answer obviously. Linda called me. His sister called me and his mother
me. His sister called me and his mother uh Saturday I think it was
uh Saturday I think it was and started kind of questioning me. They
and started kind of questioning me. They didn't know who I was.
didn't know who I was. >> Oh,
>> Oh, >> that's a funny part about Harry. He
>> that's a funny part about Harry. He I didn't know anything about his prior
I didn't know anything about his prior life or other than what I knew from
life or other than what I knew from magazines and stuff like that. I I knew
magazines and stuff like that. I I knew nothing. I didn't know who his sister
nothing. I didn't know who his sister was. I didn't know he had a daughter. I
was. I didn't know he had a daughter. I didn't know he had a son.
didn't know he had a son. >> Oh,
>> Oh, >> didn't share any of that [ __ ] with me.
>> didn't share any of that [ __ ] with me. But, uh, that was kind of his,
But, uh, that was kind of his, >> I think, his safe zone, his sounding
>> I think, his safe zone, his sounding board.
board. >> He knew he could tell me anything and
>> He knew he could tell me anything and I'd listen and I kind of deflect and try
I'd listen and I kind of deflect and try to put things in a little perspective to
to put things in a little perspective to make him think about what he tells me
make him think about what he tells me sometimes. But yeah, I mean there's, you
sometimes. But yeah, I mean there's, you know, the way they found him, we
know, the way they found him, we suspect, you know, we've done a couple
suspect, you know, we've done a couple things with this sister, a bunch of
things with this sister, a bunch of stuff with his sister and Eddie King and
stuff with his sister and Eddie King and everything else. He He's had a lot of
everything else. He He's had a lot of concussions. He had a lot of concussions
concussions. He had a lot of concussions over the years.
over the years. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And we really seriously believe he had
>> And we really seriously believe he had CTE.
CTE. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> He was a little off at times. you know,
>> He was a little off at times. you know, he would he about ran everybody off. It
he would he about ran everybody off. It seemed like, you know, the more I knew
seemed like, you know, the more I knew started to know these people after the
started to know these people after the fact, the more I saw the damage that he
fact, the more I saw the damage that he induced upon himself, alienating himself
induced upon himself, alienating himself from people that he loved. It was kind
from people that he loved. It was kind of sad in a way, but and a lot of the
of sad in a way, but and a lot of the people just wanted nothing to do with
people just wanted nothing to do with him again after that. Some of them stuck
him again after that. Some of them stuck with him even though he was a not nice
with him even though he was a not nice to him at times, you know, they
to him at times, you know, they >> sure
>> sure >> Eddie King was one of them.
>> Eddie King was one of them. >> Yeah. And obviously a sister, you know,
>> Yeah. And obviously a sister, you know, I guess she had quit talking to him by
I guess she had quit talking to him by the time I started training with him.
the time I started training with him. >> I've put myself in Harry's shoes quite
>> I've put myself in Harry's shoes quite often as you're aware on certain things.
often as you're aware on certain things. And I'm talking I'm like, man, he's I'm
And I'm talking I'm like, man, he's I'm looking in a mirror right now.
looking in a mirror right now. >> It is, you know, it's just it's he's not
>> It is, you know, it's just it's he's not the first person that I've encountered
the first person that I've encountered with issues like that and not
with issues like that and not necessarily from CTE injuries.
necessarily from CTE injuries. >> Sure. But uh the bottom line is he went
>> Sure. But uh the bottom line is he went he loved to drive his car and he went
he loved to drive his car and he went driving and they found him on some road
driving and they found him on some road out about 60 miles outside of Phoenix in
out about 60 miles outside of Phoenix in his car on Saturday. Basically died of
his car on Saturday. Basically died of heat stroke
heat stroke >> while sitting in his car there.
>> while sitting in his car there. >> Okay. So that there was a 4day
>> Okay. So that there was a 4day difference essentially that you were
difference essentially that you were looking for.
looking for. >> I think he probably passed Thursday or
>> I think he probably passed Thursday or Wednesday night or Thursday morning.
Wednesday night or Thursday morning. >> Okay. Truly, but you know, they found
>> Okay. Truly, but you know, they found him Saturday, so that was the date they
him Saturday, so that was the date they put on the death certificate. But he
put on the death certificate. But he would have answered my text if he was
would have answered my text if he was able to.
able to. >> Sure. So then I guess that brings the
>> Sure. So then I guess that brings the question of it's my understanding that
question of it's my understanding that he had one of his bikes, that a daylight
he had one of his bikes, that a daylight owner's daughter bike.
owner's daughter bike. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And that was stolen from the car.
>> And that was stolen from the car. Correct.
Correct. >> That was stolen out of his car.
>> That was stolen out of his car. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> As I sit there, he was in the car in his
>> As I sit there, he was in the car in his seat. Seat belt still on. seat was back
seat. Seat belt still on. seat was back and he had his wallet still in his
and he had his wallet still in his pocket with $600 in.
pocket with $600 in. >> Oh,
>> Oh, >> and his phone was still there.
>> and his phone was still there. >> Yeah. And they they stole the bike out
>> Yeah. And they they stole the bike out of the back of that car.
of the back of that car. >> It took us a good probably 6 months to
>> It took us a good probably 6 months to get that thing back. We knew where it
get that thing back. We knew where it was at. We couldn't, you know, there was
was at. We couldn't, you know, there was some jurisdiction issues with the police
some jurisdiction issues with the police since it was in a different jurisdiction
since it was in a different jurisdiction and blah blah. It just it became a
and blah blah. It just it became a complicated mess and we finally got it
complicated mess and we finally got it back. Rob Porter helped me do that
back. Rob Porter helped me do that because the guy that had it was lived
because the guy that had it was lived out near where his living. So
out near where his living. So >> Oh, okay. That's how he got involved. I
>> Oh, okay. That's how he got involved. I know that there was there was a couple
know that there was there was a couple of attempts to purchase it and the guy
of attempts to purchase it and the guy bounced and
bounced and >> Yeah, I tried to purchase it once and I
>> Yeah, I tried to purchase it once and I think Rob tried to get it purchased one
think Rob tried to get it purchased one time and finally got him to meet him
time and finally got him to meet him somewhere
somewhere >> and they did recover the bike. So
>> and they did recover the bike. So >> they did they recover the bike. So, we
>> they did they recover the bike. So, we got that back that went back to to
got that back that went back to to daylight and actually Richard's daughter
daylight and actually Richard's daughter was riding it in Bakersfield when I was
was riding it in Bakersfield when I was there.
there. >> Oh, months ago. Yeah. So, they
>> Oh, months ago. Yeah. So, they >> Wow, that's they repurposed it back in
>> Wow, that's they repurposed it back in her hands again. Of course, I never hell
her hands again. Of course, I never hell about the mushrooms on it.
about the mushrooms on it. >> Well, do you suspect that maybe uh I
>> Well, do you suspect that maybe uh I don't I don't know why people would have
don't I don't know why people would have mushrooms on their things. They had to
mushrooms on their things. They had to eat them or they
eat them or they >> I don't know. It was an enchanted forest
>> I don't know. It was an enchanted forest theme or something is what she is what
theme or something is what she is what she told me.
she told me. >> All right, fair enough.
>> Uh, by the way, that bike that supposedly got ran over, what happened
supposedly got ran over, what happened to that frame?
to that frame? >> What happened to it?
>> What happened to it? >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> You mean like it got ran over? Got
>> You mean like it got ran over? Got >> bent? No, no, no. But did it get thrown
>> bent? No, no, no. But did it get thrown out or did it like
out or did it like >> No, it's sitting in my garage. How's
>> No, it's sitting in my garage. How's that?
that? >> Thinking that was the uh green one you
>> Thinking that was the uh green one you sent me.
sent me. >> It is.
>> It is. >> Oh,
>> Oh, that's a
that's a >> I was supposed to throw it away.
>> I was supposed to throw it away. >> Oh. Oh. Oh, you know what's funny? I saw
>> Oh. Oh. Oh, you know what's funny? I saw Daylight posted an ad about fixing one
Daylight posted an ad about fixing one of their bikes and I kind of was like, h
of their bikes and I kind of was like, h just to toy with them. But
just to toy with them. But >> I took pictures of it and sent it to him
>> I took pictures of it and sent it to him and there Richard was like, no, that's
and there Richard was like, no, that's not fixable.
not fixable. and throw it away. I go, "Okay."
and throw it away. I go, "Okay." >> All right. I love it.
>> All right. I love it. >> But I could I couldn't quite throw it
>> But I could I couldn't quite throw it away, you know? So,
away, you know? So, >> no.
>> no. >> It's in your hands now.
>> It's in your hands now. >> I love it. I appreciate it. I love it. I
>> I love it. I appreciate it. I love it. I absolutely love it.
absolutely love it. >> You wrote or you started writing or are
>> You wrote or you started writing or are still writing for Daylight now?
still writing for Daylight now? >> Yes. They brought me on after obviously
>> Yes. They brought me on after obviously Harry passed and they knew who I was. I,
Harry passed and they knew who I was. I, you know, I'd hang out with Harry a
you know, I'd hang out with Harry a little bit at their pit and stuff. They
little bit at their pit and stuff. They knew who I was. So, I guess they felt
knew who I was. So, I guess they felt bad for me, you know. I guess that's one
bad for me, you know. I guess that's one question I had because I I think if I
question I had because I I think if I remember correctly, you posted a welcome
remember correctly, you posted a welcome aboard message where you mentioned
aboard message where you mentioned Richard and Jason's patience with you.
Richard and Jason's patience with you. Who are Richard and Jason and what was
Who are Richard and Jason and what was going on related to their patience with
going on related to their patience with you, if you don't mind me asking?
you, if you don't mind me asking? >> I don't know what that would have been
>> I don't know what that would have been about. Richard and J Richard's the
about. Richard and J Richard's the owner.
owner. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> Richard Hoover is the owner of Daylight
>> Richard Hoover is the owner of Daylight and Jason Jason's is Hannah which is one
and Jason Jason's is Hannah which is one of his daughters.
of his daughters. >> Oh, okay. but he runs the parts and
>> Oh, okay. but he runs the parts and stuff that come in. So, yeah, if I order
stuff that come in. So, yeah, if I order something, I got to go through Jason.
something, I got to go through Jason. He's kind of our contact.
He's kind of our contact. >> All right. Well, that's kind of fun.
>> All right. Well, that's kind of fun. >> I'm not sure what the patience was
>> I'm not sure what the patience was about, but uh
about, but uh >> Fair enough.
>> Fair enough. >> Maybe because I was hang maybe because I
>> Maybe because I was hang maybe because I was hanging out in their pit at the
was hanging out in their pit at the SoCal National the whole time.
SoCal National the whole time. >> Ah, I remember being a hangar around
>> Ah, I remember being a hangar around quite often at many places. So,
quite often at many places. So, >> didn't have anywhere else to go. So,
>> didn't have anywhere else to go. So, they got to feel sorry for me. Poor guy.
they got to feel sorry for me. Poor guy. Look at him. But oh, hey, look at look
Look at him. But oh, hey, look at look at that. I think that's Harry's display
at that. I think that's Harry's display case.
case. >> Yeah,
>> Yeah, >> this Yeah, all all this looks to be
>> this Yeah, all all this looks to be Harry related. The miniature HLT frame
Harry related. The miniature HLT frame and fork that Harry got while he was in
and fork that Harry got while he was in Australia.
Australia. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Wow. Look at that. That is cool.
>> Wow. Look at that. That is cool. >> The guy that built that built one for
>> The guy that built that built one for his sister that I saw and full-on bike
his sister that I saw and full-on bike that we built miniature bike in black
that we built miniature bike in black chrome.
chrome. >> Wow. Wow.
>> Wow. Wow. >> And it was just beautiful.
>> And it was just beautiful. >> Wow.
>> Wow. >> Yeah. That was made by that guy. It's
>> Yeah. That was made by that guy. It's It's just incredible what he did. It was
It's just incredible what he did. It was just little bitty welds on it. It's
just little bitty welds on it. It's just, you know, thing isn't as big as
just, you know, thing isn't as big as your hand. Incredible.
your hand. Incredible. >> Yeah. It It's amazing. It It absolutely
>> Yeah. It It's amazing. It It absolutely is. And Harry kept that on his knife
is. And Harry kept that on his knife stand. Is that the
stand. Is that the >> That was Yeah. Harry had very little in
>> That was Yeah. Harry had very little in his apartment. He had
his apartment. He had >> The only things he had that appeared to
>> The only things he had that appeared to be of any value that he cared about was
be of any value that he cared about was a frame.
a frame. >> Wow.
>> Wow. >> Little frame. miniature frame. And he
>> Little frame. miniature frame. And he had a picture that I gave him of us at
had a picture that I gave him of us at the uh 2017 Worlds.
the uh 2017 Worlds. >> I love that picture.
>> I love that picture. >> Made a Yeah, I made a picture of that
>> Made a Yeah, I made a picture of that and he had that hanging on his wall.
and he had that hanging on his wall. That was That was it. All he had on his
That was That was it. All he had on his freaking walls.
freaking walls. >> No, it's I fortunately or unfortunately
>> No, it's I fortunately or unfortunately can't imagine being in the mind of Harry
can't imagine being in the mind of Harry Liry and
Liry and >> Yeah. And I've heard where he devalued a
>> Yeah. And I've heard where he devalued a lot of his personal gains just because
lot of his personal gains just because it was so prevalent. Got all this stuff
it was so prevalent. Got all this stuff and all his swag and they were told to
and all his swag and they were told to give it away. And it really is her job
give it away. And it really is her job to give it away to promote the brand.
to give it away to promote the brand. And they ended up keeping very little
And they ended up keeping very little and holding very little to value. So
and holding very little to value. So >> he he didn't hold a whole lot. He had a
>> he he didn't hold a whole lot. He had a locker up in uh Lake Havsu, a storage
locker up in uh Lake Havsu, a storage locker that held all of his all the
locker that held all of his all the golden things he had and he wasn't
golden things he had and he wasn't paying on it so they sold it to some guy
paying on it so they sold it to some guy up there.
up there. >> Yeah,
>> Yeah, >> we kind of know about anyway. So, yeah,
>> we kind of know about anyway. So, yeah, >> it is what it is. He just didn't have
>> it is what it is. He just didn't have anything. I don't know if he didn't
anything. I don't know if he didn't value any of that stuff.
value any of that stuff. >> He gave me a couple jerseys over the
>> He gave me a couple jerseys over the years and of course I never asked him to
years and of course I never asked him to sign anything cuz I figured he'd be
sign anything cuz I figured he'd be around forever.
around forever. >> Yeah,
>> Yeah, >> the sad part. But, uh, there was just
>> the sad part. But, uh, there was just nothing in there. Some clothes, very
nothing in there. Some clothes, very minimal.
minimal. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> What he had in there. And most of, you
>> What he had in there. And most of, you know, you see his stuff all over the
know, you see his stuff all over the place. They signed stuff on eBay. And I
place. They signed stuff on eBay. And I don't know. Most of that probably came
don't know. Most of that probably came out of his locker. I'm guessing
out of his locker. I'm guessing >> I think a good chunk of it has come out
>> I think a good chunk of it has come out of his locker.
of his locker. >> Yeah. I'm just surprised he let that
>> Yeah. I'm just surprised he let that thing go. It's like there was some That
thing go. It's like there was some That was his retirement, man. What the hell?
was his retirement, man. What the hell? >> No. When my dad passed away, we found
>> No. When my dad passed away, we found three lockers and they were all filled
three lockers and they were all filled with nothing but construction tools and
with nothing but construction tools and pretty much romance novels. If like
pretty much romance novels. If like that's that's pretty much how my dad
that's that's pretty much how my dad rolled. He had three of everything.
rolled. He had three of everything. >> That's how I roll. I got three of
>> That's how I roll. I got three of everything. My wife's like, "What the
everything. My wife's like, "What the hell? You got three of these?" I go,
hell? You got three of these?" I go, "Yeah, in case one of them breaks."
"Yeah, in case one of them breaks." >> Yeah. Exactly. And then you need a
>> Yeah. Exactly. And then you need a backup for that.
backup for that. >> Yeah. And in case I lose one.
>> Yeah. And in case I lose one. >> Exactly. I like him. Come on, give me a
>> Exactly. I like him. Come on, give me a break. I don't know, you know, during
break. I don't know, you know, during that period in time and the last thing
that period in time and the last thing he gave a [ __ ] excuse my French, [ __ ]
he gave a [ __ ] excuse my French, [ __ ] about was his his locker full of stuff
about was his his locker full of stuff that he had up there.
that he had up there. >> Yeah, it's way deeper conversations, but
>> Yeah, it's way deeper conversations, but I to a lesser extent uh one time was
I to a lesser extent uh one time was having an episode and I pretty much gave
having an episode and I pretty much gave everything away.
everything away. >> So, I understand. Um
>> So, I understand. Um >> yeah, it it it happens. And yeah,
>> yeah, it it it happens. And yeah, >> you know, nobody was there and you know,
>> you know, nobody was there and you know, and you wouldn't listen to anybody
and you wouldn't listen to anybody anyway, but nobody was there to tell
anyway, but nobody was there to tell them otherwise.
them otherwise. >> Yep.
>> Yep. >> You know,
>> You know, >> Yeah. I
>> Yeah. I >> I wasn't there to tell him, "You sure
>> I wasn't there to tell him, "You sure you want to do that?"
you want to do that?" >> Yeah. It's
>> Yeah. It's >> You know, would I do that? No, I
>> You know, would I do that? No, I wouldn't do that. Are you sure you want
wouldn't do that. Are you sure you want to do that?
to do that? >> You sure? Are you sure?
>> You sure? Are you sure? >> Are you thinking about that?
>> Are you thinking about that? >> Once again, your true words has already
>> Once again, your true words has already saved me many times. So, I now have you
saved me many times. So, I now have you as that little angel on my left
as that little angel on my left shoulder.
shoulder. >> What would Greg say?
>> What would Greg say? >> What would Greg do? That's what they do
>> What would Greg do? That's what they do at work all the time. What would Greg
at work all the time. What would Greg say? What would Greg do
say? What would Greg do >> if I'm not there?
>> if I'm not there? >> That's exactly right.
>> That's exactly right. >> Love it. Yeah. And Yeah. What?
>> She is uh chewing on some tortilla right now. So,
now. So, >> ah
>> ah >> yeah, using food as the distractor.
>> yeah, using food as the distractor. >> Get out here sometime. We'll get you
>> Get out here sometime. We'll get you some Mexican food. You're from You're
some Mexican food. You're from You're from California. You know what Mexican
from California. You know what Mexican food is.
food is. >> Yeah. Well, you know what's funny? Cuz
>> Yeah. Well, you know what's funny? Cuz California has different Mexican food in
California has different Mexican food in San Diego. So, I was in San Diego a
San Diego. So, I was in San Diego a decade. That's totally different Mexican
decade. That's totally different Mexican food than Northern California. So,
food than Northern California. So, >> yeah.
>> yeah. >> Uh, it's different, but yeah.
>> Uh, it's different, but yeah. >> Oh, hey, check it out. They have these
>> Oh, hey, check it out. They have these turbo cranks in a bag.
turbo cranks in a bag. >> Yeah, I donated those. I found those.
>> Yeah, I donated those. I found those. Some guy was selling them on Facebook
Some guy was selling them on Facebook Marketplace in an SDI hotel. I had to go
Marketplace in an SDI hotel. I had to go to or apartment complex, I guess, wasn't
to or apartment complex, I guess, wasn't the hotel.
the hotel. >> Oh, no way. Where was that?
>> Oh, no way. Where was that? >> It was in Phoenix. Oh,
>> It was in Phoenix. Oh, >> okay.
>> okay. >> I went and looked at those and I picked
>> I went and looked at those and I picked those up and when I started looking at
those up and when I started looking at them further, they were two different
them further, they were two different sizes.
sizes. >> Really?
>> Really? >> Yeah. One was a 175 and the other is
>> Yeah. One was a 175 and the other is 180. And I remember Harry telling me one
180. And I remember Harry telling me one time that
time that >> that he used to use two different size
>> that he used to use two different size cranks because he had injured his leg.
cranks because he had injured his leg. >> Wow. Okay. Wow.
>> Wow. Okay. Wow. >> Injured his knee or something. I can't
>> Injured his knee or something. I can't remember exactly our ankle. But yeah,
remember exactly our ankle. But yeah, and he was running two different size
and he was running two different size cranks, a 175 and a 180.
cranks, a 175 and a 180. >> That is
>> That is >> I thought that I thought I thought
>> I thought that I thought I thought that's kind of weird. Why would they
that's kind of weird. Why would they have two different size cranks on here?
have two different size cranks on here? >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Wow.
>> Wow. >> So those could be his. I mean, it's very
>> So those could be his. I mean, it's very possible those are his cranks. probably
possible those are his cranks. probably came out of his damn locker or darn
came out of his damn locker or darn locker.
locker. >> Probably. I mean, that's kind of a
>> Probably. I mean, that's kind of a unique fingerprint, I would say.
unique fingerprint, I would say. >> Yeah. So, I don't know for sure where
>> Yeah. So, I don't know for sure where they came from, but very possible those
they came from, but very possible those are his, so we donated them.
are his, so we donated them. >> All right. Well, it's it's cool either
>> All right. Well, it's it's cool either way. And you have one of the Harry Ly
way. And you have one of the Harry Ly bobbleheads. I see.
bobbleheads. I see. >> Yeah, we put one of his bobbleheads in
>> Yeah, we put one of his bobbleheads in there. It came down to the bike. It
there. It came down to the bike. It wanted to come, so we brought it down
wanted to come, so we brought it down with him. Oh, that's
with him. Oh, that's >> And it got put in the case there, as you
>> And it got put in the case there, as you can see. So, is that I saw a while back
can see. So, is that I saw a while back I think there was a jib jab of
I think there was a jib jab of >> your bobblehead and Harry's bobblehead.
>> your bobblehead and Harry's bobblehead. >> Is that the the world famous bobblehead
>> Is that the the world famous bobblehead from the jib jab?
>> Now, the bobblehead was something different. The jib jab videos, they just
different. The jib jab videos, they just get pictures of the faces and I put them
get pictures of the faces and I put them in there. But, uh
in there. But, uh >> Oh, my bad.
>> Oh, my bad. >> The bobbleheads are those are they may
>> The bobbleheads are those are they may have been the same picture. Hard to say
have been the same picture. Hard to say >> that I used on this made, but yeah,
>> that I used on this made, but yeah, they're just funny. People like them,
they're just funny. People like them, you know.
you know. >> I love it. Yeah. Oh, and I see that he's
>> I love it. Yeah. Oh, and I see that he's wearing a fall risk racing kit.
wearing a fall risk racing kit. >> That was the last sponsor he had there.
>> That was the last sponsor he had there. >> You have involvement with them, right?
>> You have involvement with them, right? >> Yeah, I own the fall risk racing kit.
>> Yeah, I own the fall risk racing kit. >> You own them? Okay.
>> You own them? Okay. >> I started in 80.
>> I started in 80. I take that back. Not 80. I started in
or so. >> Okay. sold it about a I don't know a
>> Okay. sold it about a I don't know a year and a half ago probably now to a
year and a half ago probably now to a guy in Pennsylvania.
guy in Pennsylvania. >> Oh, interesting.
>> Oh, interesting. >> I just didn't have time to deal with it
>> I just didn't have time to deal with it anymore. It was getting too many orders
anymore. It was getting too many orders and
and >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> Sounds like a sad story, doesn't it?
>> Sounds like a sad story, doesn't it? >> It was just too busy, so I sold it. But
>> It was just too busy, so I sold it. But that's true. I just didn't have time to
that's true. I just didn't have time to do what I needed to do to maintain it or
do what I needed to do to maintain it or grow it or anything. So, I just decided
grow it or anything. So, I just decided I better sell it off and concentrate on
I better sell it off and concentrate on my other business.
my other business. >> Yeah. No, I completely completely
>> Yeah. No, I completely completely understand that they're still operating.
understand that they're still operating. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Awesome.
>> Awesome. >> Yeah. I'm sure if you went down to a
>> Yeah. I'm sure if you went down to a track there, you'd probably see them.
track there, you'd probably see them. >> Well, I'll have to go look. We don't
>> Well, I'll have to go look. We don't have many around. It's a hall for us.
have many around. It's a hall for us. But
But >> yeah.
>> yeah. >> Yeah. It's funny cuz people are always
>> Yeah. It's funny cuz people are always like, "Well, Lisa has a BMX track."
like, "Well, Lisa has a BMX track." Like, you know, Lis used to have a BMX
Like, you know, Lis used to have a BMX track.
track. >> There is a difference.
>> There is a difference. >> Hey, that's the donation I made. The 86
>> Hey, that's the donation I made. The 86 Porsche Design Fall National. I actually
Porsche Design Fall National. I actually >> bought one of those eBay things and I
>> bought one of those eBay things and I was one of those eBayers. But when I was
was one of those eBayers. But when I was researching it, I found a picture of
researching it, I found a picture of Harry holding the plaque and
Harry holding the plaque and >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. And that black and white and I
>> Yeah. And that black and white and I realized, you know, this this one's a
realized, you know, this this one's a little bit bigger than myself, right?
little bit bigger than myself, right? >> And so with your donation prompted like,
>> And so with your donation prompted like, hey, how was it going with Gork? And
hey, how was it going with Gork? And he's like, just reach out, man. And I
he's like, just reach out, man. And I did. The process was great. I reached
did. The process was great. I reached out to Gork. Uh, let him know what, hey,
out to Gork. Uh, let him know what, hey, I have this. He sent pictures back to me
I have this. He sent pictures back to me letting me know what I had. And it was a
letting me know what I had. And it was a no-brainer. I had to make sure it got
no-brainer. I had to make sure it got back into the hands of the National BMX
back into the hands of the National BMX Hall of Fame.
Hall of Fame. >> Yeah. I mean, there's not a lot there. I
>> Yeah. I mean, there's not a lot there. I know. And I talked to Gork when I took
know. And I talked to Gork when I took that bike down to donate it. I talked to
that bike down to donate it. I talked to Gork for a while, but he told me that
Gork for a while, but he told me that they had a diamond back that somebody in
they had a diamond back that somebody in Australia gave him a whole bike, a
Australia gave him a whole bike, a full-size bike that he donated to the
full-size bike that he donated to the put on loan to the museum and then he
put on loan to the museum and then he took it back out and sold it.
took it back out and sold it. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> So, they didn't have anything
>> So, they didn't have anything >> ah
>> ah >> in there with his bike wise. So, I went
>> in there with his bike wise. So, I went ahead and donated that daylight even
ahead and donated that daylight even though it isn't a diamond back and it
though it isn't a diamond back and it isn't old school. It was his. though.
isn't old school. It was his. though. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> So, I mean, he I don't know. It just
>> So, I mean, he I don't know. It just >> I guess he needed money. I don't know.
>> I guess he needed money. I don't know. >> Hey, we all get in situations in life,
>> Hey, we all get in situations in life, right?
right? >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Life happens.
>> Life happens. >> It does. They tried to beg him to keep
>> It does. They tried to beg him to keep it there, but what are you going to do?
it there, but what are you going to do? >> I don't know. I think it felt good to
>> I don't know. I think it felt good to help honor his memory and my donation. I
help honor his memory and my donation. I think you probably feel the same way.
think you probably feel the same way. So, and that's going to bring, for lack
So, and that's going to bring, for lack of a better way to say this, happiness
of a better way to say this, happiness to people that see that in the museum
to people that see that in the museum and see those things in the museum.
and see those things in the museum. >> You think about it, he was probably one
>> You think about it, he was probably one of the most influential people. I mean,
of the most influential people. I mean, he's been racing 50 freaking years.
he's been racing 50 freaking years. >> Exactly.
>> Exactly. >> Funny story is he was over when he first
>> Funny story is he was over when he first started training. He used to come over
started training. He used to come over to my business and he'd train after
to my business and he'd train after everybody left,
everybody left, >> do some training out there, sprints and
>> do some training out there, sprints and stuff. Nice.
stuff. Nice. >> But my wife was there one time. She
>> But my wife was there one time. She works for me and she doesn't know who he
works for me and she doesn't know who he is. She had no idea even though she grew
is. She had no idea even though she grew up with me when I was racing back when I
up with me when I was racing back when I was a teenager and actually raced him.
was a teenager and actually raced him. But she started asking him questions.
But she started asking him questions. She's like, "Well, how long you been
She's like, "Well, how long you been doing this?" He goes, "Oh, 55 years."
doing this?" He goes, "Oh, 55 years." >> And she's just like, "Oh."
I I could just see she happened to see a magazine I had that had that one JMC
magazine I had that had that one JMC picture of him, you know, the famous
picture of him, you know, the famous one. She goes, "Is that him?" I go,
one. She goes, "Is that him?" I go, "Yeah, it's him." Like 1979.
"Yeah, it's him." Like 1979. >> Yeah.
>> Wow. >> Yeah. I said, "Yeah, he's Yeah. Younger
>> Yeah. I said, "Yeah, he's Yeah. Younger people nowadays don't really know who he
people nowadays don't really know who he is, but he was he was it."
is, but he was he was it." >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Back then, he still was it. He was He
>> Back then, he still was it. He was He was awesome.
was awesome. >> He never went away. I mean, I know
>> He never went away. I mean, I know >> I don't know who else has a track
>> I don't know who else has a track record, but my understanding is he never
record, but my understanding is he never missed a season of racing. I'll caveat
missed a season of racing. I'll caveat that with in seasons where he was quote
that with in seasons where he was quote unquote retired, he still raced at least
unquote retired, he still raced at least two races per season. Yeah.
two races per season. Yeah. >> Yeah. He always raced. He always
>> Yeah. He always raced. He always trained.
trained. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> It never stopped. He was an animal. He
>> It never stopped. He was an animal. He was just, you know, just absolute
was just, you know, just absolute animal. It's like, god damn, man. You're
animal. It's like, god damn, man. You're going to kill us.
going to kill us. >> To this day, he just he just kept going.
>> To this day, he just he just kept going. He was an animal.
He was an animal. >> Wow.
>> Wow. >> You know, he still was relevant. He he
>> You know, he still was relevant. He he was one fast sucker, man. He's gonna
was one fast sucker, man. He's gonna always remain relevant. That's say what
always remain relevant. That's say what you want to say.
you want to say. >> Yeah. He'd train with me and he I would
>> Yeah. He'd train with me and he I would think he wasn't watching because
think he wasn't watching because somebody was talking to him.
somebody was talking to him. >> Uhhuh. And
>> Uhhuh. And >> I come around the track and he'd look at
>> I come around the track and he'd look at me and go, "God damn it.
me and go, "God damn it. >> You're not doing that right. You're
>> You're not doing that right. You're not." You know, I said, "Oh, I didn't
not." You know, I said, "Oh, I didn't know you were watching."
know you were watching." >> Yeah. He's like, "I'm always watching."
>> Yeah. He's like, "I'm always watching." >> I love it. And
>> I love it. And >> I was like, "Oh, okay."
>> I was like, "Oh, okay." >> And I've heard he had an eagle eye, man.
>> And I've heard he had an eagle eye, man. And like
And like >> Oh, he did.
>> Oh, he did. >> He can pick out like if you had
>> He can pick out like if you had something that you can improve upon with
something that you can improve upon with your your racing, he could find it for
your your racing, he could find it for you.
you. >> Yeah. And he'd tell me these things and
>> Yeah. And he'd tell me these things and I'd look at him and I'd go, "Show me."
I'd look at him and I'd go, "Show me." >> Ah. Yeah.
>> Ah. Yeah. >> And he'd show me.
>> And he'd show me. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And I do it.
>> And I do it. >> Love it.
>> Love it. >> That's a problem I have nowadays with
>> That's a problem I have nowadays with finding people to help me train is that,
finding people to help me train is that, you know, they're telling me to do
you know, they're telling me to do something, but
something, but >> if they don't know how to show me to do
>> if they don't know how to show me to do it.
it. >> Yeah. you know, they can do it, but if
>> Yeah. you know, they can do it, but if you slow it down and try to show me how
you slow it down and try to show me how to do it, they can't do it. So, it's
to do it, they can't do it. So, it's like, okay.
like, okay. >> Yeah. You know me, I'm an instructional
>> Yeah. You know me, I'm an instructional designer.
designer. I'm like, well, no, Greg, we developed
I'm like, well, no, Greg, we developed this great curriculum showing you how to
this great curriculum showing you how to do it, and our guy doesn't necessarily
do it, and our guy doesn't necessarily need to do it be able to do it, but
need to do it be able to do it, but here's how you do it. Like,
here's how you do it. Like, >> yeah, here's how you do it.
>> yeah, here's how you do it. >> Yeah. Oh,
>> Yeah. Oh, >> he was,
>> he was, >> but he was always helpful to everybody,
>> but he was always helpful to everybody, even kids. He was never rude or anything
even kids. He was never rude or anything to anybody.
to anybody. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Kids would come up and he'd he'd just
>> Kids would come up and he'd he'd just tell them what to do, you know, oh, you
tell them what to do, you know, oh, you need to do this and that, and he, you
need to do this and that, and he, you know, he just lived it. He lived it.
know, he just lived it. He lived it. >> That's awesome. And one of my I love you
>> That's awesome. And one of my I love you mentioned kids because I found it to be
mentioned kids because I found it to be a common factor where he's done a lot of
a common factor where he's done a lot of mentorship.
mentorship. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And there's a lot of people that I've
>> And there's a lot of people that I've talked with that grew up with him,
talked with that grew up with him, mentoring them. But one thing that was
mentoring them. But one thing that was really cool is there was a
>> Yeah. >> her.
>> her. >> But there was this woman that reached
>> But there was this woman that reached out to me when I first started this
out to me when I first started this journey and says, "Hey, Harry Larry was
journey and says, "Hey, Harry Larry was my daughter's best friend." And I was
my daughter's best friend." And I was thinking,
thinking, >> "Yeah,
>> "Yeah, >> okay." Like, "All right, cool." Like,
>> okay." Like, "All right, cool." Like, she's like in her 40s or 50s, like
she's like in her 40s or 50s, like >> whatever. And she sent a picture and she
>> whatever. And she sent a picture and she was like eight. I'm like, "Okay, you
was like eight. I'm like, "Okay, you just melt in my heart."
just melt in my heart." >> Yeah, he was good about that. And I just
>> Yeah, he was good about that. And I just just him. He had his demon inside as
just him. He had his demon inside as well.
well. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Like I said, we probably would have had
>> Like I said, we probably would have had him tested for that CTE, but if we would
him tested for that CTE, but if we would have thought about it, but over the
have thought about it, but over the years, he had some pretty bad crashes.
years, he had some pretty bad crashes. We pulled out some of his helmets that
We pulled out some of his helmets that he had. They were just almost split in
he had. They were just almost split in half, you know, Troy Lee helmets,
half, you know, Troy Lee helmets, expensive helmets. So, he
expensive helmets. So, he >> he stuck his head into the ground a few
>> he stuck his head into the ground a few times pretty hard.
times pretty hard. Well, not only that, it's my
Well, not only that, it's my understanding that he also had a lot of
understanding that he also had a lot of concussions as a kid, a lot of head
concussions as a kid, a lot of head injuries as a kid when he was riding
injuries as a kid when he was riding without a helmet, etc., etc.
without a helmet, etc., etc. >> We we didn't ride with helmets when we
>> We we didn't ride with helmets when we were kids, you know.
were kids, you know. >> Yeah. Who wears a helmet, right?
>> Yeah. Who wears a helmet, right? >> We used to ride in the track riding
>> We used to ride in the track riding Chandler. They go out there for the
Chandler. They go out there for the races. They make us wear it for the
races. They make us wear it for the races, but practice
races, but practice >> not so much.
>> not so much. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> You know, we're out there practicing, no
>> You know, we're out there practicing, no helmet on.
helmet on. >> Yeah. We primarily rode trail tracks and
>> Yeah. We primarily rode trail tracks and we never wore helmets. Dumb.
we never wore helmets. Dumb. >> Yeah. Nowadays, you wouldn't get me out
>> Yeah. Nowadays, you wouldn't get me out there without one on even.
there without one on even. >> No. After I injured my shoulder, I was
>> No. After I injured my shoulder, I was like, I'm wearing a helmet cuz my head
like, I'm wearing a helmet cuz my head could have been there real quickly.
could have been there real quickly. >> Yeah. Exactly. Doesn't take much. When
>> Yeah. Exactly. Doesn't take much. When he was a kid, he was knocked out pretty
he was a kid, he was knocked out pretty good. His sister told me he was in the
good. His sister told me he was in the hospital for a few days from that. Brain
hospital for a few days from that. Brain bleed and stuff. So, I mean, he was no
bleed and stuff. So, I mean, he was no stranger to hitting his head on things.
stranger to hitting his head on things. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean, Harry was Harry. I loved
>> Yeah. I mean, Harry was Harry. I loved him. He loved him like a brother. He
him. He loved him like a brother. He coming over to the house for holidays
coming over to the house for holidays and
and you know, he was always polite and nice
you know, he was always polite and nice to everyone here and it's all I can
to everyone here and it's all I can judge him by.
judge him by. >> I love it. And I have to ask this
>> I love it. And I have to ask this question.
question. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. >> One word to describe Harry Larry.
>> One word to describe Harry Larry. >> Well, that's harder than one word.
>> Well, that's harder than one word. The genius.
The genius. >> I love it.
>> I love it. >> He was a genius. I told his sister that,
>> He was a genius. I told his sister that, too. I was like, he was a genius. I'm
too. I was like, he was a genius. I'm sorry to say, you know, he may never
sorry to say, you know, he may never never been tested or never the stuff he
never been tested or never the stuff he sparks elsewhere, but then man was a
sparks elsewhere, but then man was a genius, you know. He just the way it
genius, you know. He just the way it was, he was
was, he was >> I agree because I've been listening to
>> I agree because I've been listening to over the last year, I've listened to a
over the last year, I've listened to a lot of his podcasts and
lot of his podcasts and >> yeah,
>> yeah, >> I've listened for a lot of business
>> I've listened for a lot of business purpose.
purpose. >> He ran track he ran tracks. He he did
>> He ran track he ran tracks. He he did all kinds of things, you know. He worked
all kinds of things, you know. He worked for obviously Western Sports which is
for obviously Western Sports which is Diamond Back.
Diamond Back. >> Yeah. Multiple business owners, right?
>> Yeah. Multiple business owners, right? He the face of Diamond Back taught him
He the face of Diamond Back taught him the branding and and the marketing
the branding and and the marketing aspect of things and and his
aspect of things and and his understanding of branding and marketing
understanding of branding and marketing and sponsor loyalty.
and sponsor loyalty. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. >> From what I've seen is second to none.
>> From what I've seen is second to none. >> Yep. Yeah. It's a fact. You got him on
>> Yep. Yeah. It's a fact. You got him on board. He was on board, man.
board. He was on board, man. >> Yeah. I'm passionate person.
>> Yeah. I'm passionate person. >> Passionate sometimes too passionate.
>> I love it. >> Yeah, you know.
>> Yeah, you know. >> Yeah. Well, hey, it's been great seeing
>> Yeah. Well, hey, it's been great seeing everything with you. I've got to get Ann
everything with you. I've got to get Ann down for a quick nap, but if you're down
down for a quick nap, but if you're down for coffee a little later, I would love
for coffee a little later, I would love to pick your brain some more.
to pick your brain some more. >> Sure. Yeah. I'm going to go down to the
>> Sure. Yeah. I'm going to go down to the track over here attached to this uh
track over here attached to this uh museum and see if I can ride around
museum and see if I can ride around without killing myself.
without killing myself. >> Awesome. Well, it's a date and go have
>> Awesome. Well, it's a date and go have fun and I'll send you a text. We'll get
fun and I'll send you a text. We'll get coffee going.
coffee going. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> All right. Thanks, B.
>> All right. Thanks, B. >> Thank you. Bye.
>> Thank you. Bye. >> Bye.

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