Then my brother and I, we were always close, but that period in his life, close, but that period in his life, you've got this young person who is you've got this young person who is gifted and he's in charge of a team and gifted and he's in charge of a team and he's traveling, he's making money. And he's traveling, he's making money. And at that age, at that age, I mean, they don't usually look back. I mean, they don't usually look back. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I think he did at that point. I >> And I think he did at that point. I think he was going to do it for himself.