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The History & Future of BMX in Lititz and Warkwick Township, PA - John Stancliff Shares His Thoughts
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Fireside BMX Chat Podcast Highlights Lititz’s BMX Legacy and Community Call to Action Lititz, PA — A special new episode of the Fireside BMX Chat podcast brings Lititz’s vibrant BMX history and future into focus. Hosted by longtime resident Kyle A. Huffman, the episode features guest John Mark Stancliff, a lifelong Lititz local who has been riding and racing BMX bikes in the community for decades. In this compelling conversation, Huffman and Stancliff revisit the roots of BMX in Lititz, including the once-beloved BMX track at Lititz Springs Park—a hub that inspired countless local riders and fostered an active, family-driven community. Stancliff shares personal stories, historical insights, and a rider’s perspective on how the track shaped the local BMX scene. The episode also turns toward the future as the two discuss the growing movement to build a community pump track in Lititz. They highlight the numerous benefits such a project could bring: year-round recreation for riders of all ages, a new gathering place that promotes outdoor activity, and meaningful economic boosts for local businesses through increased visitation and events. Huffman and Stancliff issue a call to action to community members, local leaders, and supporters of outdoor recreation. Their message is clear: a pump track can strengthen community connections, support youth engagement, and reinvigorate Lititz’s status as a destination for action-sports enthusiasts. Listeners interested in supporting the pump track initiative or learning more about Lititz’s BMX heritage are encouraged to connect with Lititz BMX on Facebook with any questions, ideas, or offers of support. 📚 About Lititz BMX Lititz BMX is an independent BMX preservation project dedicated to documenting and preserving the people, bikes, artifacts, race history, and stories that shaped the sport. What began as a private collection has grown into an expanding digital archive featuring hundreds of artifacts, rider profiles, interviews, educational resources, and historical research spanning BMX’s earliest days through today. Every artifact tells a story. Every rider leaves a legacy. Every piece of BMX history deserves to be preserved. Each recording helps preserve BMX history by documenting the people, artifacts, and stories that might otherwise be lost to time. 🔗 Discover More in the Archive This recording is one chapter in the story of the Lititz BMX Archive. Whether you're researching BMX history, rediscovering a favorite rider, or exploring the stories behind the artifacts, there's always something new waiting in the archive. 🏁 Explore Lititz BMX https://www.lititzbmx.com 📚 Explore the Complete Archive https://sites.google.com/view/lititzbmxinventorylist/ ⭐ Featured Archive Highlights 🔹 BMX in Media - Movies - E.T. https://sites.google.com/view/lititzbmxinventorylist/in-entertainment/bmx-in-the-media/movies/e-t-movies 🔹 Musicians Who Ride - Vin Rock https://sites.google.com/view/lititzbmxinventorylist/in-entertainment/musicians-who-bmx-or-ride/vin-rock-musicians 🔹 Rider Profiles - Todd Lyons https://sites.google.com/view/lititzbmxinventorylist/learning-resources/profiles/rider-profiles/todd-lyons-rider-profiles The Lititz BMX Archive is independently developed and maintained. Sharing recordings, identifying artifacts, contributing historical information, and connecting riders with the archive are some of the best ways to help preserve BMX history. • Museum-quality BMX artifacts • BMX team and manufacturer history • Vintage BMX memorabilia and catalogs • International BMX history • Educational resources and historical research • Original photographs, videos, and documents • Original Lititz BMX media productions • Restoration projects and behind-the-scenes stories New artifacts, rider profiles, interviews, and historical resources are added regularly as the Lititz BMX Archive continues to grow. #firesidebmxchat #bmxplus #bmx #bmxhistory #bmxisfun #bmxlife #pumptrack #communityengagement #communitybuilding
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Hey, John. So, if you don't mind, tell me a little bit about the former BMX me a little bit about the former BMX track in Litz. track in Litz. >> The former track in Litz was started >> The former track in Litz was started early 80, early 80, >> maybe like the late '7s. >> maybe like the late '7s. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> It was back behind where baseball field >> It was back behind where baseball field is. is. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> I remember it being there because that >> I remember it being there because that brown building that's in the background. brown building that's in the background. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The other side of the tracks. >> The other side of the tracks. >> Oh, okay. I've been curious where it >> Oh, okay. I've been curious where it was. The pool was there. I remember the was. The pool was there. I remember the pool. I mean, this is going pool. I mean, this is going >> this is going back a long time. So, >> this is going back a long time. So, >> sure. Well, we've been members of the >> sure. Well, we've been members of the pool for two years now. So, now it is a pool for two years now. So, now it is a good visual reference for me. good visual reference for me. >> I remember in the summer when it was >> I remember in the summer when it was hot, kids would be racing and then they hot, kids would be racing and then they would go to the pool. would go to the pool. >> That's fun. That's the right way to do >> That's fun. That's the right way to do that. that. >> Yeah, because that is the community >> Yeah, because that is the community pool. Yeah. And that part I remember but pool. Yeah. And that part I remember but it I raced there. it I raced there. I bought my first bike which was a I bought my first bike which was a Schwin. I bought it at Martin's Bike Schwin. I bought it at Martin's Bike Shop which is up in Hinkletown. And then Shop which is up in Hinkletown. And then somehow I picked up a magazine and it somehow I picked up a magazine and it was a BMX Plus magazine. was a BMX Plus magazine. >> All right. >> All right. >> And then I was like I got to see a >> And then I was like I got to see a track. [laughter] But we didn't have track. [laughter] But we didn't have internet back then. internet back then. >> No. So the only way you knew about this >> No. So the only way you knew about this is like asking around. So I went up to is like asking around. So I went up to the lit bike shop. My dad pulled in the lit bike shop. My dad pulled in there. There was a couple guys on race there. There was a couple guys on race bike, like actual BMX race bikes like bike, like actual BMX race bikes like running in there with helmets on. And I running in there with helmets on. And I was like, "Where are they going?" was like, "Where are they going?" >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And he's like, "Take this all the way >> And he's like, "Take this all the way down to the square, go through the park, down to the square, go through the park, and there's a track down there." We went and there's a track down there." We went down and there was nobody there. So, it down and there was nobody there. So, it was not a gated track, so you could was not a gated track, so you could actually get on the track. actually get on the track. >> Oh, that's awesome. >> Oh, that's awesome. >> It was kind of like It was an old school >> It was kind of like It was an old school track. No black top. No, just plain dirt track. No black top. No, just plain dirt jumps and rollers. jumps and rollers. >> There you go. That's all you need. >> There you go. That's all you need. >> With a black top starting hoe and a huge >> With a black top starting hoe and a huge set of doubles in the second straight. set of doubles in the second straight. >> Nice. >> Nice. >> So, I picked up a went back to the bike >> So, I picked up a went back to the bike shop and picked up a I think it was It's shop and picked up a I think it was It's been a long time. Sure. It's like USA been a long time. Sure. It's like USA BMX's magazine that they hand out BMX's magazine that they hand out monthly. monthly. >> Oh, okay. >> Oh, okay. >> It was for the NBL. >> It was for the NBL. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, I looked in there and there was a >> So, I looked in there and there was a state race coming up in like a week or state race coming up in like a week or so. So, I went up there on a Saturday to so. So, I went up there on a Saturday to the state race and I saw Rick Rusky Road the state race and I saw Rick Rusky Road for Mongoose and I was like, I want that for Mongoose and I was like, I want that bike. [laughter] bike. [laughter] I want I want to do that. I want I want to do that. >> Love it. I went we ended up going back >> Love it. I went we ended up going back to that bike shop and I went out with a to that bike shop and I went out with a Mongoose California. Mongoose California. >> Oh, >> Oh, >> that was 85. >> that was 85. >> Nice. >> Nice. >> So, the picture that I sent to you Yeah. >> So, the picture that I sent to you Yeah. >> is actually my first race on that bike. >> is actually my first race on that bike. >> Oh, okay. Oh, that's awesome. You got >> Oh, okay. Oh, that's awesome. You got that at the LITs bike shop? that at the LITs bike shop? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Interesting. So, I've never actually >> Interesting. So, I've never actually heard about the LITs bike shop, so I'm heard about the LITs bike shop, so I'm going to have to inquire about that at going to have to inquire about that at some point in the future. Yeah, they some point in the future. Yeah, they closed down. Oh man, the early 90s closed down. Oh man, the early 90s maybe. Okay. maybe. Okay. >> I didn't really deal with it too much >> I didn't really deal with it too much because I I went to the a local race up because I I went to the a local race up there and then I went to a state there and then I went to a state qualifier after that and I was I was qualifier after that and I was I was just a beginner but just a beginner but >> I won that state qualifier of my motos >> I won that state qualifier of my motos and it went straight to novice. I jumped and it went straight to novice. I jumped I jumped straight up and then I just I jumped straight up and then I just started racing local in states started racing local in states >> and then >> and then >> ended up racing cruiser at my first >> ended up racing cruiser at my first state races and I got I think 10. So my state races and I got I think 10. So my cruiser class was like all the top cruiser class was like all the top experts. experts. >> Nice. I mean well that had been a >> Nice. I mean well that had been a challenge but you probably learned a lot challenge but you probably learned a lot doing that right? doing that right? >> Yeah. I mean it just made you a lot >> Yeah. I mean it just made you a lot faster. So even being a novice you were faster. So even being a novice you were >> competing all against the top experts >> competing all against the top experts that race cruiser. Yeah. Yeah. that race cruiser. Yeah. Yeah. >> And then after that it just snowballed >> And then after that it just snowballed and I started racing 20 inch and cruiser and I started racing 20 inch and cruiser at states. I won first place states. I at states. I won first place states. I won second Delaware, first Delaware. won second Delaware, first Delaware. >> And it all started here in Litz. >> And it all started here in Litz. >> It all started there in Litz. >> It all started there in Litz. >> That is awesome. >> That is awesome. >> And I went on race nationals after that. >> And I went on race nationals after that. And if you can look back and And if you can look back and kind of think of how Litz helped shape kind of think of how Litz helped shape your BMX career, and I know you still your BMX career, and I know you still ride, but how did your time at Litz help ride, but how did your time at Litz help shape your BMX career? shape your BMX career? >> I think it pushed me to go try other >> I think it pushed me to go try other tracks tracks >> because Lebanon's not that far away. So >> because Lebanon's not that far away. So back then when they raced the state back then when they raced the state qualifier, you raced Saturday at like qualifier, you raced Saturday at like Litz and then Sunday was at Lebanon. Litz and then Sunday was at Lebanon. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So then you had like you would run like >> So then you had like you would run like Kutztown and Popular Neck was up in Kutztown and Popular Neck was up in Reading off of 422 Reading off of 422 and it would always be like two tracks and it would always be like two tracks close together, Saturday one and Sunday. close together, Saturday one and Sunday. >> That's how you rain your state >> That's how you rain your state qualifiers. eight. qualifiers. eight. >> So you had like if I remember correctly, >> So you had like if I remember correctly, it was like once a month for the summer it was like once a month for the summer and then September was your state and then September was your state championships. championships. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And if you're to think about it, I am >> And if you're to think about it, I am sure you have I I would assume a ton of sure you have I I would assume a ton of great memories, but do you have a great memories, but do you have a favorite memory that you've taken away favorite memory that you've taken away from Litz the BMX track there? from Litz the BMX track there? >> From Litz? >> From Litz? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yes. So, probably like 86. I was I think >> Yes. So, probably like 86. I was I think it was 86 before they closed down. I it was 86 before they closed down. I raced my class race and then I raced the raced my class race and then I raced the open race and then I raced a ProAm race open race and then I raced a ProAm race up there against the local pro up there against the local pro >> and I was like right on the whole time. >> and I was like right on the whole time. >> Nice. >> Nice. >> I don't I forget what his name was. I >> I don't I forget what his name was. I can't can't >> I mean I'd have to ask around but >> I mean I'd have to ask around but >> sure >> sure >> that was like the coolest thing to me. I >> that was like the coolest thing to me. I was like, I want to get on the gate with was like, I want to get on the gate with a pro. And that like that stemmed it. So a pro. And that like that stemmed it. So like every time I went to a national like every time I went to a national with my friends that I'm still friends with my friends that I'm still friends with today, with today, >> we used to sneak on progate practices at >> we used to sneak on progate practices at nationals. nationals. >> Oh, I love it. >> Oh, I love it. >> I mean, we did it at the Grams. I did it >> I mean, we did it at the Grams. I did it at every national that we went together. at every national that we went together. We always like snuck in and get on the We always like snuck in and get on the gate with the pros. gate with the pros. >> A lot of it. Did you ever get caught? >> A lot of it. Did you ever get caught? >> I think we got busted down in Louisville >> I think we got busted down in Louisville at the Grand. [laughter] at the Grand. [laughter] >> Okay. >> Okay. >> We didn't have a sticker, but we >> We didn't have a sticker, but we >> like >> like >> I think we did four practices before we >> I think we did four practices before we got caught. got caught. >> Oh, man. That's that's that's actually >> Oh, man. That's that's that's actually pretty fun. That's awesome. pretty fun. That's awesome. >> I mean, it was just like get on the >> I mean, it was just like get on the gate, don't talk to nobody. [laughter] gate, don't talk to nobody. [laughter] >> Just shut up, put your head down, and >> Just shut up, put your head down, and go. Yeah. [laughter] go. Yeah. [laughter] Go ahead. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. of a fond memory. But that lit did a lot of a fond memory. But that lit did a lot for me because I I always like admired for me because I I always like admired Rick Rusky and he's Rick Rusky and he's >> he is a couple months younger than I am. >> he is a couple months younger than I am. >> Okay. [clears throat] >> Okay. [clears throat] >> But he was like my I guess you would say >> But he was like my I guess you would say like a peer. like a peer. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Like >> Like >> I mean I I looked up to him like I was >> I mean I I looked up to him like I was like I want to be as fast as he was cuz like I want to be as fast as he was cuz he would win all his races, jump in all he would win all his races, jump in all the doubles, nice clean cut, clean bike the doubles, nice clean cut, clean bike sponsorship. That's what I wanted. sponsorship. That's what I wanted. >> Yeah. No, that sounds that sounds fun. >> Yeah. No, that sounds that sounds fun. He's kind of like he was kind of like He's kind of like he was kind of like your rabbit at the track, right? your rabbit at the track, right? >> Yeah, I still talk to him today. >> Yeah, I still talk to him today. >> That's cool. And you guys do you ever do >> That's cool. And you guys do you ever do you hang out regularly or you hang out regularly or >> we talked on Facebook? He he kind of >> we talked on Facebook? He he kind of left the scene for a little bit like left the scene for a little bit like back in mid late 80s. back in mid late 80s. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And then I ran into him in like 90 9091 >> And then I ran into him in like 90 9091 at I forget what it's called. some It's at I forget what it's called. some It's the place in Lancaster that did car the place in Lancaster that did car audio [snorts] audio [snorts] >> and he pulled in with a a white Shiraco >> and he pulled in with a a white Shiraco and I was like, and I was like, >> I'm going to get me. That's what my >> I'm going to get me. That's what my first first >> Oh, I love it. >> Oh, I love it. >> So, I ended up buying one and >> So, I ended up buying one and >> I've had three of them since then, but >> I've had three of them since then, but I've always kept in contact with them I've always kept in contact with them and I was look what I got. [laughter] and I was look what I got. [laughter] >> That's awesome. [gasps] So if you were >> That's awesome. [gasps] So if you were to forward think, to forward think, what would a pump track in the community what would a pump track in the community of lits bring? of lits bring? >> Like that was a staple back for lit back >> Like that was a staple back for lit back in the day. That was before all the in the day. That was before all the micro breweries, the restaurants, mid micro breweries, the restaurants, mid 80s, late 70s, mid 80s. That's where 80s, late 70s, mid 80s. That's where everybody went to ride bikes. everybody went to ride bikes. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. having the pump track in Litz today with having the pump track in Litz today with the way the litz is completely built up. the way the litz is completely built up. There's a lot of people that ride, a lot There's a lot of people that ride, a lot of families that ride and I think it of families that ride and I think it would be beneficial for not only for would be beneficial for not only for families to go out there and ride but families to go out there and ride but also for younger kids that get them out also for younger kids that get them out of the house, get some exercise. I mean, of the house, get some exercise. I mean, there's a huge apartment complex just there's a huge apartment complex just right behind the chocolate factory. right behind the chocolate factory. There is There is >> there's lots of kids in there I'm pretty >> there's lots of kids in there I'm pretty sure that ride bikes [laughter] sure that ride bikes [laughter] >> or or would like to and have a nice >> or or would like to and have a nice place to enjoy them, place to enjoy them, >> right? I think having that track and lit >> right? I think having that track and lit again would benefit again would benefit not only the kids but benefit the not only the kids but benefit the community. But there's a lot of track a community. But there's a lot of track a lot of places around Pennsylvania that lot of places around Pennsylvania that are putting these up and not just are putting these up and not just Pennsylvania. I mean it's all over the Pennsylvania. I mean it's all over the country. country. >> It is. >> It is. >> And they have a huge turnout. Huge. not >> And they have a huge turnout. Huge. not just the turnout, but it's a huge just the turnout, but it's a huge support crowd for that. support crowd for that. >> And I've learned that it's actually been >> And I've learned that it's actually been kind of fun to watch kind of some of the kind of fun to watch kind of some of the communities how they've built their pump communities how they've built their pump tracks and the support that rallied tracks and the support that rallied behind the community because of it. It's behind the community because of it. It's been very impressive. been very impressive. >> Yeah, correct. In the dollar sense, it's >> Yeah, correct. In the dollar sense, it's it's expensive to put one in, but it's expensive to put one in, but >> it's something that can be figured out. >> it's something that can be figured out. Finances are something that, Finances are something that, >> right, but it's it's low m it's very low >> right, but it's it's low m it's very low maintenance. If you put a black top maintenance. If you put a black top you don't need to do anything. you don't need to do anything. >> Yeah. The the maintenance compared to um >> Yeah. The the maintenance compared to um a field or a baseball stadium or what a field or a baseball stadium or what have you is have you is >> there's a lot less. I mean, you got to >> there's a lot less. I mean, you got to mow grass around it, but mow grass around it, but >> yeah. [laughter] >> yeah. [laughter] >> I mean, like a lot of the big tracks >> I mean, like a lot of the big tracks that are around here, like like that are around here, like like Pottstown is like a one of the top rated Pottstown is like a one of the top rated tracks around in Pennsylvania and tracks around in Pennsylvania and >> their track is covered with the stuff >> their track is covered with the stuff you put on golf golf courses, like the you put on golf golf courses, like the trails and stuff. trails and stuff. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's hard as concrete, but you got to >> It's hard as concrete, but you got to paint it. I mean, just paint it. I mean, just >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The maintenance on it is unbelievable. >> The maintenance on it is unbelievable. >> Yeah. I I like the asphalt concept. I >> Yeah. I I like the asphalt concept. I think that's great for the community. Um think that's great for the community. Um especially with the maintenance and and especially with the maintenance and and it's not just a a cost factor. It it's it's not just a a cost factor. It it's also the okay well if we have a major also the okay well if we have a major storm and you know we've seen what storm and you know we've seen what happens in downtown lit it sometimes it happens in downtown lit it sometimes it could all wash away. could all wash away. >> It's just sits out there and for people >> It's just sits out there and for people to enjoy. I mean to enjoy. I mean >> I've seen pump tracks with park benches >> I've seen pump tracks with park benches all around all around around it. People come out there and sit around it. People come out there and sit and watch and watch their kids, watch and watch and watch their kids, watch their grandkids, or they're out there their grandkids, or they're out there riding with them. riding with them. >> Yeah. And that's the great thing is >> Yeah. And that's the great thing is family oriented, but it's also family oriented, but it's also inclusive. So, you have a lot of inclusive. So, you have a lot of adaptive sports people that are able to adaptive sports people that are able to take advantage of it. And I think that take advantage of it. And I think that from that aspect of it, it's just it from that aspect of it, it's just it just opens up the offering to that many just opens up the offering to that many more people in the community. more people in the community. >> Right. You have a lot of communities, >> Right. You have a lot of communities, they don't want skateboarders around. I they don't want skateboarders around. I mean, they're it's a bad rap. mean, they're it's a bad rap. >> Yeah. you know, going to graffiti >> Yeah. you know, going to graffiti everything, blah blah blah blah blah. everything, blah blah blah blah blah. But you look at some of these pump But you look at some of these pump tracks and you got rollerbladers on it, tracks and you got rollerbladers on it, you got kids with scooters on it, you you got kids with scooters on it, you gotters on it, you got guys with gotters on it, you got guys with >> BMX bikes, mountain bikes. I mean, it >> BMX bikes, mountain bikes. I mean, it there's some that have there's some that have >> some of them pump tracks are made that >> some of them pump tracks are made that you can take some of the like the more you can take some of the like the more expensive handicap cords on it. expensive handicap cords on it. >> Yeah. Yeah. I've seen I've seen a few of >> Yeah. Yeah. I've seen I've seen a few of those videos and they're usually um I those videos and they're usually um I think sometimes well ADA compliant or think sometimes well ADA compliant or maybe that's a stretch. I don't know. maybe that's a stretch. I don't know. But um I I have seen wheelchairs and my But um I I have seen wheelchairs and my understanding is essentially anything understanding is essentially anything with wheels if you can pump it you could with wheels if you can pump it you could ride it. And and so for those of for ride it. And and so for those of for people that may not be aware of what a people that may not be aware of what a pump track is and we've talked about pump track is and we've talked about okay everybody could use it. If it's got okay everybody could use it. If it's got wheels it could be used. Can you explain wheels it could be used. Can you explain the basic concept behind a pump track? the basic concept behind a pump track? >> Yeah. So, basically a pump track is it's >> Yeah. So, basically a pump track is it's either a figure eight or dual figure either a figure eight or dual figure eight conception with rollers. So, you eight conception with rollers. So, you can roll in and it's a rhythm section can roll in and it's a rhythm section and you just you use your body to get and you just you use your body to get the momentum and you can go all the way the momentum and you can go all the way around that thing without pedaling. around that thing without pedaling. >> Yeah, it's really fun. There's a lot of >> Yeah, it's really fun. There's a lot of different concepts on how to build one, different concepts on how to build one, how to make one, how to make one, >> and there's people that do this. There >> and there's people that do this. There there's experience. And in fact, there's experience. And in fact, locally, I believe we have people with locally, I believe we have people with experience. So, we wouldn't have to be experience. So, we wouldn't have to be reaching out nationwide or worldwide for reaching out nationwide or worldwide for assistance with this project. assistance with this project. >> Correct. There is a guy name >> Correct. There is a guy name >> owns owns a dirt sculpt. He's built the >> owns owns a dirt sculpt. He's built the one in Ben Salem, Philadelphia, Kanji, one in Ben Salem, Philadelphia, Kanji, and a couple other places. and he's and a couple other places. and he's built people's tracks. He's pretty well built people's tracks. He's pretty well known at that industry known at that industry >> and that he's right here. That's >> and that he's right here. That's wonderful. And we do have other local wonderful. And we do have other local communities that he's assisted. Uh my my communities that he's assisted. Uh my my daughter's excited. Uh we do have other daughter's excited. Uh we do have other local communities that he's assisted. Uh local communities that he's assisted. Uh and he's right here. So, it's that to me and he's right here. So, it's that to me is tremendous and it's a great is tremendous and it's a great convenience. convenience. There's a lot of pros that they like to There's a lot of pros that they like to run clinics and run clinics and >> yeah, >> yeah, >> even ones that aren't so highly named or >> even ones that aren't so highly named or sought after, but they like to run sought after, but they like to run clinics at these things and teach kids clinics at these things and teach kids how to ride. how to ride. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And that's the biggest bonus. >> And that's the biggest bonus. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I mean, if you can get a pro to come in, >> I mean, if you can get a pro to come in, volunteer their time for a day and be volunteer their time for a day and be like, "Hey, so and so is going to be at like, "Hey, so and so is going to be at this track at this pump track. come out, this track at this pump track. come out, watch, watch, learn, ride. I mean, learn, ride. I mean, >> and there are a lot of pros in this >> and there are a lot of pros in this area. I think a lot of people don't area. I think a lot of people don't realize that that Lancaster County does realize that that Lancaster County does have a vibrant BMX community and so, have a vibrant BMX community and so, yeah, go ahead. yeah, go ahead. >> There's some fast pros in Pennsylvania. >> There's some fast pros in Pennsylvania. I mean, they've there's always been fast I mean, they've there's always been fast pros in Pennsylvania all the way back to pros in Pennsylvania all the way back to I mean, we just had recently uh Payton I mean, we just had recently uh Payton Ryder. She's from originally from around Ryder. She's from originally from around the Poxtown area and she was in the in the Poxtown area and she was in the in the Olympic and she is now seated number the Olympic and she is now seated number two in women's pro. two in women's pro. >> Yep. Who's looking for a sponsor by the >> Yep. Who's looking for a sponsor by the way? way? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Another conversation to [laughter] be >> Another conversation to [laughter] be had. had. >> Yeah. [snorts] That's a >> I just feel as though it's for the community. It's on community property. community. It's on community property. it falls into any other wreck it falls into any other wreck opportunity in the in the community. I opportunity in the in the community. I think that think that um the concerns are are already um the concerns are are already accounted for and there's a roadmap to accounted for and there's a roadmap to address recreation concerns. address recreation concerns. >> Correct. I mean, I know I know in >> Correct. I mean, I know I know in California they're popping up California they're popping up everywhere. I mean, it's it's [snorts] everywhere. I mean, it's it's [snorts] >> I don't even want to say California >> I don't even want to say California because there was just one that was because there was just one that was opened up right down the road. Oh, not opened up right down the road. Oh, not down the road, but over in um near down the road, but over in um near Hanover, if I'm not mistaken, Hanover Hanover, if I'm not mistaken, Hanover just opened a pump truck. So, it's just opened a pump truck. So, it's they're popping up all over the place. they're popping up all over the place. And Litz could be a lead. Um, and and it And Litz could be a lead. Um, and and it doesn't matter. We don't have to be the doesn't matter. We don't have to be the lead. We just want to lead within our lead. We just want to lead within our community. And bringing this track, I community. And bringing this track, I think, would would go a long way in think, would would go a long way in that. that. >> I think it's a huge benefit to the >> I think it's a huge benefit to the community because once kids see that, I community because once kids see that, I mean, almost every kid has a bike. mean, almost every kid has a bike. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> But they're out riding it. >> But they're out riding it. >> Yep. If you have something for them to >> Yep. If you have something for them to venture out to ride, it gets them out of venture out to ride, it gets them out of the house, gets them off the TV, gets the house, gets them off the TV, gets them, you know, get some exercise. And them, you know, get some exercise. And who knows, maybe that could be the next who knows, maybe that could be the next pro. pro. >> Yeah. I mean, I I um I don't know. I I >> Yeah. I mean, I I um I don't know. I I am really excited for the opportunity to am really excited for the opportunity to help the town get one. Uh and call me help the town get one. Uh and call me selfish because I have a 2-year-old selfish because I have a 2-year-old daughter. I would like her to be able to daughter. I would like her to be able to use it. I I believe you have a use it. I I believe you have a granddaughter if I'm not mistaken. So, granddaughter if I'm not mistaken. So, there's other people in the community there's other people in the community besides me that can benefit [laughter] besides me that can benefit [laughter] from this. from this. >> I have three grandkids, one on the way, >> I have three grandkids, one on the way, and if I could get them on a pump track, and if I could get them on a pump track, I'd put them on a pump track. I'd put them on a pump track. >> There you go. Love it. And before we I >> There you go. Love it. And before we I guess before we part ways on this, is guess before we part ways on this, is there anything else you would like to there anything else you would like to say about a pump track or a pump track say about a pump track or a pump track within the community of lit itself? within the community of lit itself? >> If you miss the opportunity, >> If you miss the opportunity, you're going to lose out. Like you said you're going to lose out. Like you said before, there's a lot of people that before, there's a lot of people that ride in lit. There's a lot of people ride in lit. There's a lot of people locally to lit that are in the BMX locally to lit that are in the BMX community. community. >> Yeah. So it'd be a huge benefit because >> Yeah. So it'd be a huge benefit because a lot of them don't want to spend the a lot of them don't want to spend the money the organization so you can race money the organization so you can race BMX travel all place you can just put it BMX travel all place you can just put it in a car drive a half hour or 15 minutes in a car drive a half hour or 15 minutes however it is and yeah however it is and yeah >> have fun for the whole day. >> have fun for the whole day. >> There you go. There you go. And it's >> There you go. There you go. And it's free. I have to keep reminding myself of free. I have to keep reminding myself of the concept that it's more than BMX, the concept that it's more than BMX, >> right? Yeah. I I get pigeon holed myself >> right? Yeah. I I get pigeon holed myself into the BMX concept, but it's greater into the BMX concept, but it's greater than that. It's once again, anything than that. It's once again, anything with wheels that can bump. So, with wheels that can bump. So, >> Right. I mean, wheels, you can get it on >> Right. I mean, wheels, you can get it on there. there. >> Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. If it fits on >> Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. If it fits on the track, it's got wheels, go for it, the track, it's got wheels, go for it, man. Uh, but hey, I appreciate you man. Uh, but hey, I appreciate you taking the time. I'm really looking taking the time. I'm really looking forward to getting together with you, forward to getting together with you, with other people we've already with other people we've already identified in the community uh and identified in the community uh and helping to bring this project to this helping to bring this project to this the community of lits. I think that it's the community of lits. I think that it's um this [snorts] is going to be fun, um this [snorts] is going to be fun, man. [laughter] man. [laughter] >> Yeah, it's perfect. >> Yeah, it's perfect. >> Who knows where that could lead to? I >> Who knows where that could lead to? I mean, you could have like a small event mean, you could have like a small event at this one. Go to Hanover, go to at this one. Go to Hanover, go to Mckenzie, go to Ben Salem, best rider Mckenzie, go to Ben Salem, best rider wins. It could stem to that, you know. wins. It could stem to that, you know. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But as far as I think it'll be a big >> But as far as I think it'll be a big benefit to the community to have benefit to the community to have something like that. something like that. >> There's plenty of space. There is I I >> There's plenty of space. There is I I have a park in mind, let me tell you. have a park in mind, let me tell you. [laughter] [laughter] Oh, I love it. Let's keep corresponding Oh, I love it. Let's keep corresponding and keep the momentum going on this, not and keep the momentum going on this, not let it die. let it die. >> I think it's going to work. There's a >> I think it's going to work. There's a lot of support for it. I've posted it lot of support for it. I've posted it online. I've already got comments from online. I've already got comments from Barry Nobles, from Glong. Barry Nobles, from Glong. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> both vet pros. >> both vet pros. >> Yeah, I saw that. >> Yeah, I saw that. >> It got shared a bunch of times. I think >> It got shared a bunch of times. I think it I shared it to the Lit community it I shared it to the Lit community page. Um page. Um >> it it the interest is there. We just >> it it the interest is there. We just have to have to >> keep it going. >> keep it going. >> Yep. That's that's it until they say >> Yep. That's that's it until they say this is our final no and then they say, this is our final no and then they say, "All right, you sure?" So, [laughter] "All right, you sure?" So, [laughter] >> all right, brother. You take care. Y >> all right, brother. You take care. Y thanks. Byebye. thanks. Byebye. >> Bye.
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