Floored: A BMX & Garage Story - Take a Ride w/ BMX Legend Greg Hill in a Documentary - Audio Theater

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“Floored: A BMX & Garage Story” Premieres in Home Theaters — A Ride Through BMX History and Garage Goals with BMX Legend Greg Hill

Lititz, PA – Prepare for a cinematic journey that blends the grit of BMX racing with the art of garage craftsmanship in the new documentary, Floored: A BMX & Garage Story. This unique film stars BMX legend Greg Hill and Lititz BMX’s founder Kyle A. Huffman, offering an intimate look into the world of BMX through a new lens.

In this groundbreaking documentary, Greg Hill, a BMX Hall of Famer, takes viewers on a personal tour of Huffman's garage, discussing everything from garage flooring options to the restoration of a vintage DIRTWERX bike. The film delves into Hill's extensive career, including his early days with BMX legends like Harry Leary, Clint Miller, and Stu Thomsen. Hill opens up about pivotal moments in BMX history, learns he was the inspiration for “The Leary”, and his reflections on the sport's evolution.

Beyond the racing, the documentary explores the business side of BMX, featuring candid discussions about Hill's experience shutting down Greg Hill Products (GHP) and the challenges of sustaining a BMX business. Hill shares insights into the financial realities of the industry, emphasizing the passion and dedication required to succeed.

Lititz BMX, known for its commitment to preserving BMX history, is currently developing a 3 - 5 year plan to launch a business focused on preserving BMX history and providing access to high-quality vintage BMX rentals. This initiative aims to make BMX history accessible to a new generation of riders and enthusiasts.

Floored: A Garage & BMX Story is set to premiere in home theaters worldwide through this podcast and select streaming services. For more information on screenings and to learn more about Lititz BMX's upcoming projects, visit https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61573071505099 or their YouTube page at https://www.youtube.com/@LititzBMX17543/videos

About Greg Hill:
Greg Hill is a BMX Hall of Famer and one of the most influential figures in the sport's history. With numerous national titles and a pioneering spirit, Hill has significantly shaped the landscape of BMX racing and continues to inspire riders worldwide.

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Hey, Greg. Thanks for coming down to talk epoxy options for our garage floor.
talk epoxy options for our garage floor. Hey, no problem, man. Nice to meet you.
Hey, no problem, man. Nice to meet you. I got my daughter with me. What's her
I got my daughter with me. What's her name if you don't? Uh, her name is Aunt
name if you don't? Uh, her name is Aunt Marie and she is 18 months. She'll be 19
Marie and she is 18 months. She'll be 19 months here soon. Awesome. Nice. Yeah.
months here soon. Awesome. Nice. Yeah. So, we're actually getting our garage
So, we're actually getting our garage doors replaced next month and and
doors replaced next month and and they're going to be gray on the inside
they're going to be gray on the inside and I'm looking for something to
and I'm looking for something to complement that. I was wondering uh
complement that. I was wondering uh hopefully you could take a look around
hopefully you could take a look around and get some ideas from it. Yeah, that's
and get some ideas from it. Yeah, that's no problem, man. Yeah, there's there's a
no problem, man. Yeah, there's there's a few different colors. I mean, off the
few different colors. I mean, off the top of my head, there's a color tuxedo,
top of my head, there's a color tuxedo, which is good. It's got gray, black, and
which is good. It's got gray, black, and white. Pretty much goes with everything.
white. Pretty much goes with everything. I like that. Yeah, it's a good color.
I like that. Yeah, it's a good color. You know, more importantly, the
You know, more importantly, the condition of the floor and the prep
condition of the floor and the prep work. I mean, any questions you have, I
work. I mean, any questions you have, I can tell you all about it right now if
can tell you all about it right now if you want. All right, cool. Yeah, let's
you want. All right, cool. Yeah, let's roll through here in a sec. I, you know,
roll through here in a sec. I, you know, I know you're a legend in the boring
I know you're a legend in the boring industry. Uh, so I'm just kind of
industry. Uh, so I'm just kind of curious to hear your recommendations.
curious to hear your recommendations. What's happening?
What's happening? Well, I love your pictures on Facebook.
Well, I love your pictures on Facebook. You know, sometimes people ask me, "Hey,
You know, sometimes people ask me, "Hey, man. How come you always posting?" I'm
man. How come you always posting?" I'm like, "Well, I post my work." It's like
like, "Well, I post my work." It's like I'm not just posting like, "I just went
I'm not just posting like, "I just went to I just got a big fat burger and
to I just got a big fat burger and fries. Check it out. Hey, I just got a
fries. Check it out. Hey, I just got a big burrito. Check it out." It's more
big burrito. Check it out." It's more like this is what I do for a living for
like this is what I do for a living for the last 8 years and I people see it.
the last 8 years and I people see it. I've gotten jobs from it. It helps
I've gotten jobs from it. It helps promote what we're doing. But, um, kind
promote what we're doing. But, um, kind of the deal. Well, I put it out there
of the deal. Well, I put it out there all the time. No, I think it's cool.
all the time. No, I think it's cool. It's kind of fun. It's given me some
It's kind of fun. It's given me some ideas as I've scrolled through. But,
ideas as I've scrolled through. But, hey, Greg, go ahead. Do your thing. I'll
hey, Greg, go ahead. Do your thing. I'll stay out of your hair. I don't know if
stay out of your hair. I don't know if you got to take measurements or what,
you got to take measurements or what, but I'll give you, you know, just do
but I'll give you, you know, just do your thing. It's appears to be a
your thing. It's appears to be a standard twocar garage. Typically 400
standard twocar garage. Typically 400 ft², give or take a few, you know,
ft², give or take a few, you know, typically what I do, I work alone. I'm
typically what I do, I work alone. I'm an owner operator. I don't have
an owner operator. I don't have employees. I do all the work myself. I
employees. I do all the work myself. I used to try to have employees. I went
used to try to have employees. I went through about 10 people, but it's really
through about 10 people, but it's really extremely difficult to find anybody who
extremely difficult to find anybody who wants to work. And then if you do find
wants to work. And then if you do find someone that wants to work, it's really
someone that wants to work, it's really hard to get for them to keep up. Yeah.
hard to get for them to keep up. Yeah. They won't work the same, you know. So,
They won't work the same, you know. So, I do it myself. I typically grind the
I do it myself. I typically grind the floor with a walk behind grinder.
floor with a walk behind grinder. You want to grind the floor. You want to
You want to grind the floor. You want to you want to remove the about a business
you want to remove the about a business card thickness off the top of the floor.
card thickness off the top of the floor. Makes sense. That way you open up the
Makes sense. That way you open up the pores and the product can bond to it.
pores and the product can bond to it. Okay. Some of these guys will come in
Okay. Some of these guys will come in like like I'll do a typical twocar
like like I'll do a typical twocar garage for like 2 grand. That's like a a
garage for like 2 grand. That's like a a normal price. My competitors are doing
normal price. My competitors are doing it for between 24 and and 3,000. And
it for between 24 and and 3,000. And that's because, you know, they have
that's because, you know, they have employees and they have a warehouse and
employees and they have a warehouse and these kinds of things. I don't have any
these kinds of things. I don't have any of that overhead. I I do it all myself
of that overhead. I I do it all myself and have pretty good sized property that
and have pretty good sized property that I keep everything on. So, you know, some
I keep everything on. So, you know, some of these do-it-yourselfers will come in
of these do-it-yourselfers will come in and want to acid wash it and that's no
and want to acid wash it and that's no good. That just traps the acid in the
good. That just traps the acid in the concrete. Yeah. Starts eating away at
concrete. Yeah. Starts eating away at it. And then they want to use those
it. And then they want to use those cheap Home Depot Rustoleum garage epoxy
cheap Home Depot Rustoleum garage epoxy kits which are basically junk. I've
kits which are basically junk. I've thought about it and I thought, let's
thought about it and I thought, let's reach out to a professional. So you
reach out to a professional. So you grind the floor. Yeah. You patch the
grind the floor. Yeah. You patch the cracks. Some people are like, "There's
cracks. Some people are like, "There's there's no cracks." But once you grind
there's no cracks." But once you grind the floor, you're going to find some
the floor, you're going to find some spider cracks are in there. We patch
spider cracks are in there. We patch them because it's a roll on. And you got
them because it's a roll on. And you got to patch those. So you patch that. Then
to patch those. So you patch that. Then you put roll out. Typically what I do is
you put roll out. Typically what I do is I do the curbs, the stem walls, you
I do the curbs, the stem walls, you know, where the wall meets the floor.
know, where the wall meets the floor. Yeah. Do those first. You don't really
Yeah. Do those first. You don't really have to grind those usually because
have to grind those usually because they're so porous. They're so already
they're so porous. They're so already like they've already got a good texture
like they've already got a good texture like what you're grinding the floor for
like what you're grinding the floor for to get. Right. And so you clean them off
to get. Right. And so you clean them off and then I just coat them and flake
and then I just coat them and flake them. Vacuum everything and then I roll
them. Vacuum everything and then I roll the floor out and then I throw flake.
the floor out and then I throw flake. Yeah. 99% of the floors are flake. Okay.
Yeah. 99% of the floors are flake. Okay. Again, some walls solid color. So my
Again, some walls solid color. So my wife wanted me to ask, is there a
wife wanted me to ask, is there a warranty that you offer with it? Yeah, I
warranty that you offer with it? Yeah, I offer like a four-year warranty. Okay,
offer like a four-year warranty. Okay, cool. Here. So here's the deal. There's
cool. Here. So here's the deal. There's no such thing as a lifetime warranty
no such thing as a lifetime warranty because that's a joke. Okay, you're
because that's a joke. Okay, you're going to call somebody in 8 years and
going to call somebody in 8 years and say blah blah blah. They're going, "Oh,
say blah blah blah. They're going, "Oh, you know what? Um, I don't recall or
you know what? Um, I don't recall or blah blah blah or you know there's fine
blah blah blah or you know there's fine print." The warranties are always about
print." The warranties are always about two things. It's about defective
two things. It's about defective material and poor workmanship. So, if
material and poor workmanship. So, if the job looks good when the guy leaves
the job looks good when the guy leaves and the next day it's dry, you don't
and the next day it's dry, you don't have a warranty. That's bottom line. It
have a warranty. That's bottom line. It sounds sounds lame, but that's how it
sounds sounds lame, but that's how it is. So, I go by the typical, hey, I'm
is. So, I go by the typical, hey, I'm going to give a 4-year warranty.
going to give a 4-year warranty. Typically, if there's any issues, you
Typically, if there's any issues, you know, bubbling or delaminating or
know, bubbling or delaminating or anything, that usually happen inside of
anything, that usually happen inside of 2 years. So, I double that. All right.
2 years. So, I double that. All right. Yeah. But my my thought process is this.
Yeah. But my my thought process is this. You stay in business through referral
You stay in business through referral and doing good work. So, if someone has
and doing good work. So, if someone has a problem with something I did, I'm
a problem with something I did, I'm going to go fix it. And I don't care if
going to go fix it. And I don't care if it's been, you know, seven years because
it's been, you know, seven years because they're going to talk good and I'm going
they're going to talk good and I'm going to get jobs from them. That's basically
to get jobs from them. That's basically how it works. So, yeah. And that's one
how it works. So, yeah. And that's one question I want to ask you because I got
question I want to ask you because I got I got a buddy with a garage and we were
I got a buddy with a garage and we were kind of talking about it too and he's
kind of talking about it too and he's looking for someone. So, if he wanted to
looking for someone. So, if he wanted to get a hold of you, would I just tell him
get a hold of you, would I just tell him to hit you up on Facebook or is there a
to hit you up on Facebook or is there a better way? Yeah, just my phone number
better way? Yeah, just my phone number is fine. Okay, cool. I mean, this is my
is fine. Okay, cool. I mean, this is my business phone, my cell phone. So, Okay,
business phone, my cell phone. So, Okay, awesome. You know, people are like, "Why
awesome. You know, people are like, "Why don't you get what if somebody calls and
don't you get what if somebody calls and bugs you? Someone calls and bugs me and
bugs you? Someone calls and bugs me and then I'll just block their number.
then I'll just block their number. They'll never call me again." Love it.
They'll never call me again." Love it. Makes total sense. Makes total sense.
Makes total sense. Makes total sense. Hey, I I know you're out here for
Hey, I I know you're out here for garages, right? I had to talk about my
garages, right? I had to talk about my floor, but do you mind if I just ask you
floor, but do you mind if I just ask you a couple questions while you keep
a couple questions while you keep looking around a little bit like uh
looking around a little bit like uh Cool. So, I I know you've been out of
Cool. So, I I know you've been out of game a little while, but I'm hoping you
game a little while, but I'm hoping you might have a little interest on this
might have a little interest on this project I'm working on. It's actually a
project I'm working on. It's actually a dirt works bike made by Livermore Boss
dirt works bike made by Livermore Boss for Harry Liry. You were friends with
for Harry Liry. You were friends with Harry, right? Yeah, I was friends with
Harry, right? Yeah, I was friends with Harry since I mean, I've known the guy
Harry since I mean, I've known the guy since I was about 11 years old. friends
since I was about 11 years old. friends with him from the time I was probably
with him from the time I was probably 15 16 all the way towards the end the
15 16 all the way towards the end the last seven eight years I haven't really
last seven eight years I haven't really been in touch five to six years I
been in touch five to six years I haven't been in touch a whole lot but um
haven't been in touch a whole lot but um but yeah I've known him a long time we
but yeah I've known him a long time we had a lot of rac
had a lot of rac I've heard that and I was always
I've heard that and I was always wondered how you guys met was it at WSA
wondered how you guys met was it at WSA yeah when I started I went to WSA and he
yeah when I started I went to WSA and he raced it was 14 and over at the time it
raced it was 14 and over at the time it wasn't 14, 15, 16. It was just 14 and
wasn't 14, 15, 16. It was just 14 and over. He was riding for JMC. So I I
over. He was riding for JMC. So I I didn't meet him at WSA, but I watched
didn't meet him at WSA, but I watched him a lot there. And then later we met.
him a lot there. And then later we met. I don't exactly remember, but you line
I don't exactly remember, but you line up with someone, you start racing them,
up with someone, you start racing them, and then you have a few conversations.
and then you have a few conversations. Probably when I was about 15, I got to
Probably when I was about 15, I got to know him. And yeah, and uh you know, and
know him. And yeah, and uh you know, and he used to come over your house to do
he used to come over your house to do gates, right? Yeah. He used to come when
gates, right? Yeah. He used to come when I lived at home, he would come over. him
I lived at home, he would come over. him and Clint Miller and Stewart would come
and Clint Miller and Stewart would come over and do gates two, three times a
over and do gates two, three times a week and u my dad would drop gates or we
week and u my dad would drop gates or we would take turns dropping gates. We
would take turns dropping gates. We would basically just go out the
would basically just go out the driveway, hang a left around the
driveway, hang a left around the mailbox, turn around the neighbor's
mailbox, turn around the neighbor's driveway and you know the little apron
driveway and you know the little apron of the driveway, ride the sidewalk back
of the driveway, ride the sidewalk back in. Nice. Yeah, cuz I was going to ask
in. Nice. Yeah, cuz I was going to ask you who was there. So you're saying
you who was there. So you're saying Clint Miller? That's pretty cool. Yeah,
Clint Miller? That's pretty cool. Yeah, Clint Miller was there. He was there a
Clint Miller was there. He was there a lot. He was He was a good dude. He was a
lot. He was He was a good dude. He was a good dude. Very cool dude. Good friend
good dude. Very cool dude. Good friend of mine. So, I've got to ask, did your
of mine. So, I've got to ask, did your wife ever come over to practice Gates or
wife ever come over to practice Gates or were like after losing, were you in that
were like after losing, were you in that like little rascal He-Man woman haters
like little rascal He-Man woman haters stance at the time? Um, we were 10 years
stance at the time? Um, we were 10 years old. Okay. Well, before teenage years,
old. Okay. Well, before teenage years, you know, I mean, even you're 13, it's
you know, I mean, even you're 13, it's not the same as when you're 16, 17. So,
not the same as when you're 16, 17. So, yeah. But this was when we were younger,
yeah. But this was when we were younger, you know. Okay. I was like, who all
you know. Okay. I was like, who all would be there? Trying to imagine that.
would be there? Trying to imagine that. That was it. Just that. My mom would be
That was it. Just that. My mom would be inside and my dad would be at work and
inside and my dad would be at work and sometimes he'd get home while we were
sometimes he'd get home while we were doing it. Oh, that's that's way cool. It
doing it. Oh, that's that's way cool. It wasn't the kind of thing that we were
wasn't the kind of thing that we were like wanting to have 20 people at, you
like wanting to have 20 people at, you know, it was a threeman gate and there
know, it was a threeman gate and there was four of us and you you rotated three
was four of us and you you rotated three or four gates and you run the gate three
or four gates and you run the gate three or four times. You just keep rotating so
or four times. You just keep rotating so everybody can get time in. You know,
everybody can get time in. You know, this is the way to do it. Now, I
this is the way to do it. Now, I remember uh hearing a story or seeing
remember uh hearing a story or seeing actually I don't think I ever saw the
actually I don't think I ever saw the picture of the bike of just doing crazy
picture of the bike of just doing crazy bike stuff, but Harry once took a a
bike stuff, but Harry once took a a bike, turned it upside down, and welded
bike, turned it upside down, and welded 225 plates to it for the GPV event. Do
225 plates to it for the GPV event. Do you Did you ever get into that or the F1
you Did you ever get into that or the F1 stuff? No, I never did that stuff. I
stuff? No, I never did that stuff. I didn't do that during that time. I was
didn't do that during that time. I was hardcore racing. Yeah, I was racing for
hardcore racing. Yeah, I was racing for titles during that time and I just
titles during that time and I just that's all, you know, you can't really
that's all, you know, you can't really can't do two things or you're not going
can't do two things or you're not going to win a title basically. You have to be
to win a title basically. You have to be all in. So, I never did that. Makes
all in. So, I never did that. Makes sense. I've heard that you're the reason
sense. I've heard that you're the reason that the Liry was created, the jump, and
that the Liry was created, the jump, and that he was trying to tag your helmet
that he was trying to tag your helmet and just got further and further away.
and just got further and further away. Did he ever hit you?
Did he ever hit you? I don't recall that. I don't If he told
I don't recall that. I don't If he told that story then did he is he the one
that story then did he is he the one that said that? I saw that on a podcast.
that said that? I saw that on a podcast. I heard it on a podcast. It might have
I heard it on a podcast. It might have been the deal. It could have been at WSA
been the deal. It could have been at WSA on they had a pretty good size jump.
on they had a pretty good size jump. Fair enough. a big roller on the back
Fair enough. a big roller on the back street for the last turn. And I think he
street for the last turn. And I think he said he used to like to sit on a
said he used to like to sit on a tabletop if I remember specific. Yeah,
tabletop if I remember specific. Yeah, it could have been a little table or
it could have been a little table or roll. I don't know. It was a pretty good
roll. I don't know. It was a pretty good in that day. It was a good jump on the
in that day. It was a good jump on the track. That might have been true. I
track. That might have been true. I don't know. You know, it was so long
don't know. You know, it was so long ago, you know, he might have never even
ago, you know, he might have never even told me that. We've been friends. We
told me that. We've been friends. We were friends a long time and I never he
were friends a long time and I never he never told me that. So, huh. But I mean,
never told me that. So, huh. But I mean, if that's the deal, that's cool. Yeah,
if that's the deal, that's cool. Yeah, it is. That's pretty cool because I was
it is. That's pretty cool because I was gonna I was going to say, well, was he
gonna I was going to say, well, was he boasting about that? Like, or maybe you
boasting about that? Like, or maybe you can answer that. When he finally got a
can answer that. When he finally got a named Jump, was he just going around
named Jump, was he just going around boasting about that like crazy? No. No,
boasting about that like crazy? No. No, I've never heard him talk about it ever.
I've never heard him talk about it ever. No, it's actually really cool to hear.
No, it's actually really cool to hear. Yeah. Oh, another quick question I asked
Yeah. Oh, another quick question I asked about the floors, the temperature and
about the floors, the temperature and humidity issues. Is there anything to
humidity issues. Is there anything to worry about that with your floors?
worry about that with your floors? uh in terms of the install or just how
uh in terms of the install or just how it breaks all like we live in a humid
it breaks all like we live in a humid area. So is that going to be an issue?
area. So is that going to be an issue? Like will cause that to look more so in
Like will cause that to look more so in a dry area. Once it's cured out, it
a dry area. Once it's cured out, it won't matter what the weather is. You
won't matter what the weather is. You know what I mean? During process the
know what I mean? During process the weather, you always have to be concerned
weather, you always have to be concerned of the weather. Yeah. I don't use epoxy.
of the weather. Yeah. I don't use epoxy. Okay. I use what's called polypartic.
Okay. I use what's called polypartic. Oh, okay. Most people never heard of it.
Oh, okay. Most people never heard of it. So, you know, if I was polypartic
So, you know, if I was polypartic surface professionals, I probably would
surface professionals, I probably would be out of business. You know, people
be out of business. You know, people don't know what it is. But it's a better
don't know what it is. But it's a better product. It performs better. When you
product. It performs better. When you get below 50°, epoxy almost stops
get below 50°, epoxy almost stops curing, you know, it's just kind of like
curing, you know, it's just kind of like it takes 50° or hotter. And then Okay.
it takes 50° or hotter. And then Okay. Yeah. So, when you're doing
Yeah. So, when you're doing polyaspartic, you don't have such
polyaspartic, you don't have such limitations. It cures quicker. If it is
limitations. It cures quicker. If it is massively humid, if it's like 80% humid
massively humid, if it's like 80% humid out, you don't want to pour it because
out, you don't want to pour it because it won't perform properly. It'll cloud
it won't perform properly. It'll cloud up a little bit. It's not a problem. But
up a little bit. It's not a problem. But that makes sense. For the most part, I
that makes sense. For the most part, I uh Yeah, it's a good product. And 40°
uh Yeah, it's a good product. And 40° out or 100° out, I can I can work with
out or 100° out, I can I can work with that material. It's not a problem.
that material. It's not a problem. Perfect. That works. One word to
Perfect. That works. One word to describe Harry Liry as a friend. Uh he's
describe Harry Liry as a friend. Uh he's just intense.
just intense. I love it. Even if doing practical
I love it. Even if doing practical jokes, he's pretty intense. Yeah, for
jokes, he's pretty intense. Yeah, for sure. Is there a favorite joke prank
sure. Is there a favorite joke prank that he pulled that uh you don't mind
that he pulled that uh you don't mind sharing?
sharing? I don't think it was more like pranks.
I don't think it was more like pranks. It was more like mutual stuff that you
It was more like mutual stuff that you do. Just guys doing stuff. I mean, we
do. Just guys doing stuff. I mean, we would be on tour one time. I remember
would be on tour one time. I remember our vehicle going down Interstate 40 and
our vehicle going down Interstate 40 and Diamondback was coming up. Harry was
Diamondback was coming up. Harry was driving and then just like a food fight
driving and then just like a food fight on the highway where you're just
on the highway where you're just throwing bananas and all kinds of crap
throwing bananas and all kinds of crap on their windshield and on the side of
on their windshield and on the side of their bed and they're trying to throw it
their bed and they're trying to throw it on you. Um I love it and loves it too,
on you. Um I love it and loves it too, Greg.
Greg. That's kind of stupid stuff, but Okay,
That's kind of stupid stuff, but Okay, that's that's awesome. I love it. And
that's that's awesome. I love it. And then with regards to BMX legend, Harry
then with regards to BMX legend, Harry has a BMX legend. Do you have a word
has a BMX legend. Do you have a word that could describe him?
that could describe him? I just kind of fall back to the whole
I just kind of fall back to the whole intense deal cuz, you know, he likes to
intense deal cuz, you know, he likes to he has he has to hate his competition.
he has he has to hate his competition. Yeah. He has to get all fired up, you
Yeah. He has to get all fired up, you know. Yeah. And I just I feel like
know. Yeah. And I just I feel like hate's kind of a strong word. So I just
hate's kind of a strong word. So I just think it's intense. He just is super
think it's intense. He just is super intense, man. Okay, that makes sense.
intense, man. Okay, that makes sense. And I've heard similar stories from his
And I've heard similar stories from his own mouth. And I guess that kind of
own mouth. And I guess that kind of leaves the question is did he owe you a
leaves the question is did he owe you a last trip into a wall or did you owe him
last trip into a wall or did you owe him a last trip into a wall? Um I never to
a last trip into a wall? Um I never to be honest. Yeah. Uh I never really had
be honest. Yeah. Uh I never really had any issue with Harry. Um I was thinking
any issue with Harry. Um I was thinking in fun. We were we were I don't know how
in fun. We were we were I don't know how to say this without I don't want it to
to say this without I don't want it to sound stupid or like weird whatever.
sound stupid or like weird whatever. Yeah, you
Yeah, you you get into a situation where you're
you get into a situation where you're racing and really the only way you're
racing and really the only way you're going to have a beef with someone is if
going to have a beef with someone is if you're both on the same part of the
you're both on the same part of the track trying to occupy the same space at
track trying to occupy the same space at the same time and someone does something
the same time and someone does something shitty. Yeah, I've had situations like
shitty. Yeah, I've had situations like that with people that have run me off
that with people that have run me off the track and I've had situations like
the track and I've had situations like that where people have been respectful
that where people have been respectful and so I never had any drama with Harry
and so I never had any drama with Harry so I can't really you know I can't
so I can't really you know I can't really say I owe one you know what I
really say I owe one you know what I mean like if someone like I'll give you
mean like if someone like I'll give you an example Pete Longerich kicks my tire
an example Pete Longerich kicks my tire at the 85 NBL grands in the semi and I
at the 85 NBL grands in the semi and I crash two months later at the at the ABA
crash two months later at the at the ABA Grands I ran him off the track in his
Grands I ran him off the track in his semi I mean in the third pain and uh if
semi I mean in the third pain and uh if I didn't do that he would have won the
I didn't do that he would have won the number one plate as it was Ronnie
number one plate as it was Ronnie Anderson won. So it's like you know you
Anderson won. So it's like you know you get equal with people for what they do
get equal with people for what they do but none of the people that I'm close
but none of the people that I'm close with Stu Clint Harry R any of these
with Stu Clint Harry R any of these dudes they never kicked my front wheel
dudes they never kicked my front wheel going into a turn you know. Sure. I
going into a turn you know. Sure. I don't know. I never did when I got out
don't know. I never did when I got out on the track myself. I just focused on
on the track myself. I just focused on what I was doing and if if someone was
what I was doing and if if someone was ahead of me they were more or less just
ahead of me they were more or less just in my way is how I looked at it. So it
in my way is how I looked at it. So it wasn't a personal thing. I've never had
wasn't a personal thing. I've never had any beef with her at all. Really? So,
any beef with her at all. Really? So, it's kind of what I've heard. It's
it's kind of what I've heard. It's really cool to hear your side of things
really cool to hear your side of things here. So, I appreciate that. No worries,
here. So, I appreciate that. No worries, man. And so, you switched from BMX to to
man. And so, you switched from BMX to to doing the floorings. I It sounds like
doing the floorings. I It sounds like you're happy and it sounds like you
you're happy and it sounds like you believe it was the right decision. If
believe it was the right decision. If someone was to do something similar,
someone was to do something similar, would you recommend that? I mean, it's
would you recommend that? I mean, it's all relative. You know, it depends.
all relative. You know, it depends. Like, for me, I was in the the BMX
Like, for me, I was in the the BMX industry, which, you know, really sucks.
industry, which, you know, really sucks. Yeah, I mean the BMX hobby is fantastic,
Yeah, I mean the BMX hobby is fantastic, but the BMX business is horrible.
but the BMX business is horrible. There's probably, you know, like even
There's probably, you know, like even some of the companies that are big in
some of the companies that are big in BMX. Yeah. Whatever you consider big to
BMX. Yeah. Whatever you consider big to be the ones that are doing better, I
be the ones that are doing better, I would say they're not making a whole lot
would say they're not making a whole lot of money. I mean, they're making a
of money. I mean, they're making a living, but nobody's getting wealthy off
living, but nobody's getting wealthy off BMX. You know, for me, once I stopped
BMX. You know, for me, once I stopped doing BMX and shut GHP down and got into
doing BMX and shut GHP down and got into flooring, I mean, the right now I earn
flooring, I mean, the right now I earn way more money than I did in BMX and I
way more money than I did in BMX and I have way more time off. I mean, like I'm
have way more time off. I mean, like I'm never gone on the weekends. I'm every
never gone on the weekends. I'm every night and I'm going to jobs making, you
night and I'm going to jobs making, you know, sometimes in one day more than it
know, sometimes in one day more than it took me two weeks to make in BMX. And
took me two weeks to make in BMX. And not having anyone say, "Hey, can you
not having anyone say, "Hey, can you hook me up? What's my price? What's my,
hook me up? What's my price? What's my, you know, In BMX, it's all about the bro
you know, In BMX, it's all about the bro price, right? When I go to a floor, I
price, right? When I go to a floor, I don't ever hear anything like that.
don't ever hear anything like that. Yeah. You're just a normal person going
Yeah. You're just a normal person going to do a service and you get paid. And in
to do a service and you get paid. And in BMX, the business is just it's just so
BMX, the business is just it's just so unbelievably terrible. Yeah. I can only
unbelievably terrible. Yeah. I can only imagine. I've heard, you know, stories
imagine. I've heard, you know, stories of being frame manufacturers and kind of
of being frame manufacturers and kind of just getting hit up and the margins
just getting hit up and the margins aren't great to begin with. So, how much
aren't great to begin with. So, how much can you actually give away? The margin
can you actually give away? The margin the margins are are terrible. And the
the margins are are terrible. And the problem is there's too many frame. when
problem is there's too many frame. when we stopped there was like 250 different
we stopped there was like 250 different frames on the market, you know. Yeah.
frames on the market, you know. Yeah. And like we would we sold almost like
And like we would we sold almost like a,000 frames a year almost and it was
a,000 frames a year almost and it was like you're not making any money selling
like you're not making any money selling that. Probably I don't know how many
that. Probably I don't know how many frames the companies that are doing good
frames the companies that are doing good in BMX sell but you know there's nobody
in BMX sell but you know there's nobody selling 20,000 frames a year. You know
selling 20,000 frames a year. You know they might be lucky to sell 2,000. Yeah,
they might be lucky to sell 2,000. Yeah, I doubt it. But and the biggest problem
I doubt it. But and the biggest problem is like this is a prime example when I
is like this is a prime example when I got out of BMX and shut GHP down
got out of BMX and shut GHP down completely. We had probably 35 or 40
completely. We had probably 35 or 40 support teams. They each had like
support teams. They each had like anywhere from 5 to 20 riders. Like my my
anywhere from 5 to 20 riders. Like my my phone never rang. It's just completely
phone never rang. It's just completely stopped. You have people that you think
stopped. You have people that you think are your friends and you leave and it's
are your friends and you leave and it's gone and you don't hear from no one, you
gone and you don't hear from no one, you know? It's like they're off on somebody
know? It's like they're off on somebody else's camp to get free stuff and just
else's camp to get free stuff and just for the hookup, you know? Oh, yeah. No,
for the hookup, you know? Oh, yeah. No, I I understand that from a different
I I understand that from a different industry's perspective, but yeah, I get
industry's perspective, but yeah, I get it. Yeah. I wouldn't get back into BMX
it. Yeah. I wouldn't get back into BMX if somebody offered me all the money in
if somebody offered me all the money in the world. I would not do it. Man, I'm
the world. I would not do it. Man, I'm glad you're happy. super happy not being
glad you're happy. super happy not being here, you know. Well, hey, I appreciate
here, you know. Well, hey, I appreciate you taking the time to come on down and
you taking the time to come on down and talk with me. No problem, man. It's all
talk with me. No problem, man. It's all good. When you're ready to go, just let
good. When you're ready to go, just let me know. Perfect. I'll uh let me talk
me know. Perfect. I'll uh let me talk with the wife. We'll talk about those
with the wife. We'll talk about those things we talked about and then we'll
things we talked about and then we'll get back with you and hopefully talk
get back with you and hopefully talk again soon. Awesome. Thank you, man.
again soon. Awesome. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. You, too. No. Bye. Okay.
Appreciate it. You, too. No. Bye. Okay. Bye. Bye.
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