Fireside BMX Chat: w/ Linda Leary Taylor - Sister of Harry Leary - Podcast All Clips - Enhanced

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Lititz BMX Presents: Walk & Talk Across London Bridge - A Heartfelt BMX Fireside Chat - About Harry Leary w/ His Sister

Lititz, PA / Lake Havasu, AZ – Lititz BMX is proud to announce the release of a deeply personal and moving series of video clips drawn from the audio podcast Fireside BMX Chat: w/ Linda Leary Taylor – Sister of BMX Legend Harry Leary. In these newly produced visual vignettes, Linda Leary Taylor, Kyle A. Huffman, and Kyle’s daughter take a poignant walk across the iconic London Bridge in Lake Havasu, Arizona — journeying together to the very spot of Harry Leary’s memorial paver on the Lake Havasu Memorial Walkway.

A Bridge of Memory, a Legacy Remembered

As Linda, Kyle, and his daughter step foot on the London Bridge, they reflect on family, BMX history, and the lasting impact of Harry Leary. The bridge, a symbol of endurance and connection, becomes the backdrop for candid conversation: from recollections of Harry’s early days and his influence in the BMX world, to the quiet reverence upon finding his memorial paver on the walkway.

Call to Action: We invite you — whether you are a lifelong BMX fan, part of the Leary family legacy, or simply someone who appreciates stories of connection — to watch the full 106-clip playlist on the Lititz BMX YouTube page with an open mind and an open heart. Together, join Linda, Kyle, and his daughter as they walk, remember, and celebrate Harry Leary’s remarkable life.

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Ann Marie, look at that. It's the London Bridge.
Bridge. You know, like the song. Yeah.
You know, like the song. Yeah. Linda.
Linda. >> Hey. Hey, Linda.
>> Hey. Hey, Linda. >> London Bridge. London Bridge is falling
>> London Bridge. London Bridge is falling down.
down. >> I've always heard the song. Always sung
>> I've always heard the song. Always sung the song and I've never seen it. This is
the song and I've never seen it. This is absolutely amazing.
absolutely amazing. >> It is. It's a beautiful bridge and it's
>> It is. It's a beautiful bridge and it's in a very beautiful spot. If you ever
in a very beautiful spot. If you ever get the chance to go to the Lake Havsu
get the chance to go to the Lake Havsu Museum, it gives you all the details on
Museum, it gives you all the details on how the bridge was moved over here, the
how the bridge was moved over here, the dates and what they had to do to get it
dates and what they had to do to get it over here. And it is supposedly haunted.
over here. And it is supposedly haunted. Just thought I'd throw that.
Just thought I'd throw that. >> Wait, the bridge or the museum?
>> Wait, the bridge or the museum? >> The bridge.
>> The bridge. >> Ah,
>> Ah, interesting.
interesting. >> Apparently, a lot of people have jumped
>> Apparently, a lot of people have jumped off the bridge. Not here in England. So,
off the bridge. Not here in England. So, >> choosing this London Bridge
>> choosing this London Bridge Harley-Davidson store as our meetup spot
Harley-Davidson store as our meetup spot was a good choice. It was pretty easy to
was a good choice. It was pretty easy to find. So, thanks for that.
find. So, thanks for that. >> Yeah, it is pretty easy to find. And the
>> Yeah, it is pretty easy to find. And the mall, I love this mall because, you
mall, I love this mall because, you know, of course, we've got some really
know, of course, we've got some really good food here, but cute little shops
good food here, but cute little shops and it's right on the water, so it's
and it's right on the water, so it's kind of cool.
kind of cool. >> We're going to have to check that out
>> We're going to have to check that out while we're here. What's interesting is
while we're here. What's interesting is my wife and I used to always go to
my wife and I used to always go to Harley-Davidson stores to collect decals
Harley-Davidson stores to collect decals for my father-in-law. Uh, so we always
for my father-in-law. Uh, so we always get a smile when we see one now. So, it
get a smile when we see one now. So, it it it turned out perfectly.
it it turned out perfectly. >> Oh, great. I'm glad.
>> Oh, great. I'm glad. >> Yeah. So, Amry is going to join us for
>> Yeah. So, Amry is going to join us for our walk today. I'm just going to let
our walk today. I'm just going to let she know this might be a little bit of a
she know this might be a little bit of a challenge. She's kind of still in that
challenge. She's kind of still in that toddling phase, but hopefully that's
toddling phase, but hopefully that's okay.
okay. >> That's okay.
>> That's okay. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> She'll love looking at the boats.
>> She'll love looking at the boats. The water.
The water. >> I think so. I'm excited to show her. All
>> I think so. I'm excited to show her. All right. Well, if you're ready, go ahead
right. Well, if you're ready, go ahead and lead the way.
and lead the way. >> Let's do it. Follow me this way. We're
>> Let's do it. Follow me this way. We're going to head over the bridge.
going to head over the bridge. >> Okay. Once we get over onto the other
>> Okay. Once we get over onto the other side, we're going to walk down a flight
side, we're going to walk down a flight of stairs, and I'm sure Amarie will
of stairs, and I'm sure Amarie will enjoy that as well.
enjoy that as well. >> Yeah. All right. It's going to be fun,
>> Yeah. All right. It's going to be fun, kiddo. You're 18 months younger than
kiddo. You're 18 months younger than Harry, right?
Harry, right? >> Yes.
>> Yes. >> And you also have a younger sister.
>> And you also have a younger sister. >> Yes.
>> Yes. >> And
>> And >> she is Oh god, she's two years younger
>> she is Oh god, she's two years younger than I am.
than I am. >> Oh, okay.
>> Oh, okay. >> Approximately. Yeah.
>> Approximately. Yeah. >> Okay. And from like a growing up
>> Okay. And from like a growing up perspective, what is the earliest memory
perspective, what is the earliest memory of your brother?
of your brother? >> The earliest memory I would say we had a
>> The earliest memory I would say we had a beagle dog fell in our pool and I
beagle dog fell in our pool and I remember Harry pulling the dog out of
remember Harry pulling the dog out of the pool and walking the dog into the
the pool and walking the dog into the house.
house. So I, you know, that is probably the
So I, you know, that is probably the first memory.
first memory. >> Wow.
>> Wow. >> Approximately four years old. But, you
>> Approximately four years old. But, you know, looking at pictures of us back in
know, looking at pictures of us back in when we were younger, it makes me think
when we were younger, it makes me think that I have earlier memories, but the
that I have earlier memories, but the one that is most vivid is watching Harry
one that is most vivid is watching Harry bring that dog in through the back door.
bring that dog in through the back door. >> Wow. Oh, that's that's a that's a vivid
>> Wow. Oh, that's that's a that's a vivid younger than four.
younger than four. >> As the two of you grew up, how did your
>> As the two of you grew up, how did your relationship develop?
relationship develop? >> Well, we were so close in age and he was
>> Well, we were so close in age and he was my playmate. We were always together.
my playmate. We were always together. sometimes fighting most of the time. Not
sometimes fighting most of the time. Not >> do. Yeah.
>> do. Yeah. >> Yes. But growing up
>> Yes. But growing up once my sister came along, she was ill
once my sister came along, she was ill quite a bit.
quite a bit. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> And so my mother kind of spent a lot of
>> And so my mother kind of spent a lot of time with her. So Harry and I formed a
time with her. So Harry and I formed a bond.
bond. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And we were together a lot. And
>> And we were together a lot. And unfortunately my dad was in the picture
unfortunately my dad was in the picture but he was a very controlling strict
but he was a very controlling strict man.
man. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> But having said that as a family
>> But having said that as a family together we did a lot of camping,
together we did a lot of camping, traveling, boating. We did all of that.
traveling, boating. We did all of that. So as a young child I do remember those
So as a young child I do remember those times with Harry as well. So it's really
times with Harry as well. So it's really kind of hard to pinpoint any just any
kind of hard to pinpoint any just any one memory that I remember of my
one memory that I remember of my brother.
brother. >> Yeah. You know, I remember him riding
>> Yeah. You know, I remember him riding motorcycles at a very young age. We used
motorcycles at a very young age. We used to go motorcycle riding. So, there's
to go motorcycle riding. So, there's actually a lot. But because of my
actually a lot. But because of my sister, my mom spent a lot of time with
sister, my mom spent a lot of time with her. And so, Harry and I kind of grew
her. And so, Harry and I kind of grew closer and just hung out a lot together.
closer and just hung out a lot together. >> So, if you could go back and spend a day
>> So, if you could go back and spend a day with Harry as kids before all of this
with Harry as kids before all of this BMX stuff, how would you two have had
BMX stuff, how would you two have had the perfect day?
the perfect day? probably there's one memory that just
probably there's one memory that just stands out because we used to joke
stands out because we used to joke around together all the time. There is a
around together all the time. There is a picture of us. I remember it so vividly.
picture of us. I remember it so vividly. We had a push lawn mower and it was not
We had a push lawn mower and it was not a motor. It was it was an old
a motor. It was it was an old >> push. We had to push.
>> push. We had to push. >> And so we had a pretty good size front
>> And so we had a pretty good size front yard. So he was pushing the lawn mower
yard. So he was pushing the lawn mower and I was walking behind him with a big
and I was walking behind him with a big stick off of the tree and I kept hitting
stick off of the tree and I kept hitting him in the head with it. And so it took
him in the head with it. And so it took forever to get that lawn mowed. But the
forever to get that lawn mowed. But the whole time we just played around and
whole time we just played around and giggled and laughed. And so yeah, it was
giggled and laughed. And so yeah, it was a very fond memory because I could still
a very fond memory because I could still see that vividly in my head. And this
see that vividly in my head. And this was probably way before he started his
was probably way before he started his BMX journey. You know, I remember him
BMX journey. You know, I remember him jumping his bike before he even started
jumping his bike before he even started BMX.
BMX. >> How so?
>> How so? >> You know, and I tried to jump one of his
>> You know, and I tried to jump one of his jumps that he was doing.
jumps that he was doing. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And I ended up flying over the
>> And I ended up flying over the handlebars and getting a concussion.
handlebars and getting a concussion. >> So, I did not follow in my brother's
>> So, I did not follow in my brother's footsteps. [laughter]
footsteps. [laughter] That was concerned.
That was concerned. >> I was going to ask about your BMX
>> I was going to ask about your BMX career, but I guess that kind of answers
career, but I guess that kind of answers that one now.
that one now. >> And I did do one race with
>> And I did do one race with >> Shelly. It was a Mother's Day race. And
>> Shelly. It was a Mother's Day race. And of course, she beat me, but she should
of course, she beat me, but she should have. It's
have. It's >> she was an avid BMXer. And that's
>> she was an avid BMXer. And that's actually how Harry met Shel. Okay.
actually how Harry met Shel. Okay. >> And as far as his younger BMX days, he
>> And as far as his younger BMX days, he used to go out there and have kids
used to go out there and have kids laying on the street in front of our
laying on the street in front of our house
house >> and he would jump them with his bike.
>> and he would jump them with his bike. >> Oh my goodness.
>> Oh my goodness. >> And that's when people started coming
>> And that's when people started coming around.
around. >> Wow.
>> Wow. That's cool.
That's cool. >> Everybody used to meet at our house.
>> Everybody used to meet at our house. Always 10, 11 kids at our house with
Always 10, 11 kids at our house with their bikes riding.
their bikes riding. >> Approximate how old?
>> Approximate how old? >> We were in middle school.
>> We were in middle school. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> Elementary. Elementary school. In middle
>> Elementary. Elementary school. In middle school, I remember
school, I remember a race they had at the school.
a race they had at the school. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> And it was a bunch of kids at the school
>> And it was a bunch of kids at the school got together and just did a race around
got together and just did a race around the field in the back of the school. and
the field in the back of the school. and Harry was so far ahead of the pack, it
Harry was so far ahead of the pack, it was ridiculous.
was ridiculous. >> So after that race, his reputation kind
>> So after that race, his reputation kind of grew. And then all through high
of grew. And then all through high school, everybody was in awe of him. And
school, everybody was in awe of him. And >> I remember one thing that it we had
>> I remember one thing that it we had driver's education and they had this
driver's education and they had this simulation as to when you had to take
simulation as to when you had to take your foot off of the the gas pedal and
your foot off of the the gas pedal and slam on the brakes.
slam on the brakes. >> Oh. And Harry Harry won that particular
>> Oh. And Harry Harry won that particular contest and all these kids were coming
contest and all these kids were coming out going, "Oh my god, your brother just
out going, "Oh my god, your brother just beat everybody." And on and on and on
beat everybody." And on and on and on and on. So I mean it was he had hero
and on. So I mean it was he had hero worship even in high school.
worship even in high school. >> No,
>> No, I just darn the beginning of his life at
I just darn the beginning of his life at that point essentially.
that point essentially. >> He tried baseball.
>> He tried baseball. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> But nothing, you know, no sports really
>> But nothing, you know, no sports really took the place of his riding.
took the place of his riding. >> Interesting. And it was always his
>> Interesting. And it was always his bikes. Always his bikes.
bikes. Always his bikes. >> So he he didn't start to ride to escape.
>> So he he didn't start to ride to escape. >> He had some aggression.
>> He had some aggression. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> Even a copy of Harry's I think it's his
>> Even a copy of Harry's I think it's his first grade report card. No.
first grade report card. No. >> It talks about Harry's aggression on the
>> It talks about Harry's aggression on the playground.
playground. >> Oh my goodness.
>> Oh my goodness. >> And that if he would get rid of this
>> And that if he would get rid of this aggression, he could do better in
aggression, he could do better in school.
school. >> Sure. I don't remember him fighting a
>> Sure. I don't remember him fighting a lot. I do remember he and my father
lot. I do remember he and my father really struggling a lot. I mean, they
really struggling a lot. I mean, they kind of did not get along and that might
kind of did not get along and that might have been the catalyst that threw him
have been the catalyst that threw him into his bike riding.
into his bike riding. >> I read that they brought this here in
>> I read that they brought this here in 71, I guess.
71, I guess. >> Yeah, it was originally over in England.
>> Yeah, it was originally over in England. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And this whole canal
>> And this whole canal >> was completely dry. This was all just
>> was completely dry. This was all just they blocked off all the water. Yeah.
they blocked off all the water. Yeah. And so then once they built it because
And so then once they built it because they're they made an island which is
they're they made an island which is where you're parked. You're actually
where you're parked. You're actually parked
parked >> on the island. Okay.
>> on the island. Okay. >> Is what they call it. And so the bridge
>> Is what they call it. And so the bridge goes over to the island. And honestly,
goes over to the island. And honestly, it's the only way right now at this
it's the only way right now at this point in time to get back and forth to
point in time to get back and forth to the island.
the island. >> If nothing ever happened
>> If nothing ever happened >> to the bridge, you would be stuck over
>> to the bridge, you would be stuck over there unless you had a boat and then you
there unless you had a boat and then you could take your boat.
could take your boat. >> [laughter]
>> Oh man. Well, that's interesting. But I guess you know what you're getting
guess you know what you're getting yourself into when you kind of
yourself into when you kind of >> move there, right?
>> move there, right? >> Oh yeah, definitely. [laughter]
>> Oh yeah, definitely. [laughter] >> That heat. You get yourself into the
>> That heat. You get yourself into the heat.
heat. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. The heat. I can imagine.
>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. The heat. I can imagine. I actually, to be honest with you,
I actually, to be honest with you, almost didn't believe this existed, but
almost didn't believe this existed, but I'm definitely going to have to check
I'm definitely going to have to check out that museum. Everybody always says
out that museum. Everybody always says that I have a bridge to sell you, right?
that I have a bridge to sell you, right? Well, this one was actually sold and
Well, this one was actually sold and relocated from London. So, I'm kind of
relocated from London. So, I'm kind of geeking on that. Yeah. Something just
geeking on that. Yeah. Something just popped into my head that I think I
popped into my head that I think I heard. We're kind of talking about you
heard. We're kind of talking about you as kids, but Harry's first bike was
as kids, but Harry's first bike was actually a horse. Am I getting that
actually a horse. Am I getting that right?
right? >> It was I have a picture of him and he
>> It was I have a picture of him and he had been
had been >> not much older than one years old.
>> not much older than one years old. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> And it was a little brown horse with
>> And it was a little brown horse with wheels on it and he used to ride that
wheels on it and he used to ride that thing around the house. Ah, I love it.
thing around the house. Ah, I love it. >> Those were his first wheels. And then,
>> Those were his first wheels. And then, you know, he moved up to a tricycle and
you know, he moved up to a tricycle and then a little bike. And then, of course,
then a little bike. And then, of course, we had Honda motorcycles.
we had Honda motorcycles. >> We had a Honda 55 and a Honda 90 that we
>> We had a Honda 55 and a Honda 90 that we would take out to the desert and ride a
would take out to the desert and ride a lot. And Harry loved that. That's one
lot. And Harry loved that. That's one thing he and my father did a lot of
thing he and my father did a lot of >> was motorcycle riding together. So, that
>> was motorcycle riding together. So, that did bring them a little bit closer.
did bring them a little bit closer. >> That is awesome to to kind of hear that.
>> That is awesome to to kind of hear that. I mean, at least they had that as a
I mean, at least they had that as a strong bond. It sounds like
I didn't realize your dad rode before. I was That's new for me.
was That's new for me. >> Oh, yeah. No, my dad was heavily into
>> Oh, yeah. No, my dad was heavily into motorcycles. He had an Indian. He had a
motorcycles. He had an Indian. He had a Triumph.
Triumph. >> And so, we did some street riding,
>> And so, we did some street riding, >> but yeah, my dad was into a lot of
>> but yeah, my dad was into a lot of things like that. You know, as a family,
things like that. You know, as a family, we traveled a lot. We did a lot. And so,
we traveled a lot. We did a lot. And so, we were very close that way. But because
we were very close that way. But because Harry and I were so close in age as even
Harry and I were so close in age as even as we grew older, I think that's why we
as we grew older, I think that's why we were always so close growing up was
were always so close growing up was because of the age difference.
because of the age difference. >> That makes sense. Yeah.
>> That makes sense. Yeah. >> My brother and my younger sister were
>> My brother and my younger sister were never really close. My sister and I
never really close. My sister and I were. So it just I think the age
were. So it just I think the age difference played a big part and tried
difference played a big part and tried to keep up with Harry. So that mean so
to keep up with Harry. So that mean so that he and I were closer. Did I chased
that he and I were closer. Did I chased Harry a lot. I tried to keep up with him
Harry a lot. I tried to keep up with him and do everything he did. And I got to
and do everything he did. And I got to where he was irritated with his sister
where he was irritated with his sister because I was there. [laughter]
because I was there. [laughter] >> And I totally get that. You know, who
>> And I totally get that. You know, who wants your sister around all the time?
wants your sister around all the time? >> Yeah, exactly.
>> Did your brother paddle board? >> He did a few times. I don't think it was
>> He did a few times. I don't think it was his forte only because it wasn't
his forte only because it wasn't dangerous enough and it was not fast
dangerous enough and it was not fast enough.
enough. >> Fair enough.
>> Fair enough. >> So, and it didn't have wheels. So, there
>> So, and it didn't have wheels. So, there was the problem. It had didn't have
was the problem. It had didn't have wheels. Speaking of wheels, um, he
wheels. Speaking of wheels, um, he worked at a Schwin's
worked at a Schwin's bike store, if I'm not mistaken, called
bike store, if I'm not mistaken, called Coats. Do you remember much about that
Coats. Do you remember much about that at all or anything about the Schwin
at all or anything about the Schwin days?
days? >> I do not remember the name of the Schwin
>> I do not remember the name of the Schwin shop, but I do remember him working for
shop, but I do remember him working for Schwin.
Schwin. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> And that was his first bike shop. And I
>> And that was his first bike shop. And I think that's honestly where he learned
think that's honestly where he learned to really work on his bikes.
to really work on his bikes. >> Oh,
>> Oh, >> we went from Schwin to JMC. Mhm.
>> we went from Schwin to JMC. Mhm. >> And I remember in relationship to where
>> And I remember in relationship to where we work lived, it was kind of far away
we work lived, it was kind of far away and so he had to ride his bike to work
and so he had to ride his bike to work every day back and forth and he loved it
every day back and forth and he loved it and that's just what he did. He loved
and that's just what he did. He loved working for Schwin and then he went to
working for Schwin and then he went to JMC and at that point he raced for JMC
JMC and at that point he raced for JMC but then he went to Diamondback. in
but then he went to Diamondback. in between those times. Honestly, I know he
between those times. Honestly, I know he raced, but again, as Harry got older, he
raced, but again, as Harry got older, he didn't really want his sister following
didn't really want his sister following him around. So, you know, I got my own
him around. So, you know, I got my own life. He had his, but I'm still really
life. He had his, but I'm still really close.
close. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> There were some things that I just was
>> There were some things that I just was not, you know, it's like, "No, you're
not, you know, it's like, "No, you're not coming." I got that a lot.
not coming." I got that a lot. >> Nah, I get that. I I have a younger
>> Nah, I get that. I I have a younger sister as well, so I totally understand.
sister as well, so I totally understand. Do you mind if we take a quick water
Do you mind if we take a quick water break and take quick view break? No, not
break and take quick view break? No, not at all.
at all. >> Cool.
>> Cool. >> Hey, there you go. K.
>> Hey, there you go. K. >> Can you see the flags up here? They have
>> Can you see the flags up here? They have the English flag along side.
the English flag along side. >> Wow.
>> Wow. >> So, they're all up along the whole
>> So, they're all up along the whole bridge here. You can see
bridge here. You can see >> that is really cool. The Union Jack,
>> that is really cool. The Union Jack, right?
right? >> Yeah. It's It's just kind of cool to see
>> Yeah. It's It's just kind of cool to see both of them.
both of them. >> I think it sounds great. Up
>> I think it sounds great. Up >> and down the bridge.
>> and down the bridge. >> Puts things kind of into perspective
>> Puts things kind of into perspective with regards to the travels that this
with regards to the travels that this bridge took. Right. Yeah, you should
bridge took. Right. Yeah, you should really look up the research on it. It's
really look up the research on it. It's amazing.
amazing. >> Yeah, definitely.
>> Yeah, definitely. >> Interesting.
>> Interesting. >> All right. Yeah. So, these those flags,
>> All right. Yeah. So, these those flags, you see that? Remember, we're on the
you see that? Remember, we're on the London Bridge. Yeah. Like Yeah. Like
London Bridge. Yeah. Like Yeah. Like London Bridge is falling. No. Don't
London Bridge is falling. No. Don't Don't see me.
Don't see me. >> Exactly. Falling down.
>> Exactly. Falling down. >> Falling down. No. Ah. All right. I tried
>> Falling down. No. Ah. All right. I tried to get her to go with me, but I swear
to get her to go with me, but I swear she normally likes my singing.
she normally likes my singing. Oh, look. Look at that. a boatload of
Oh, look. Look at that. a boatload of half naked ladies. That's
half naked ladies. That's >> Yeah, that you'll see a lot of that.
>> Yeah, that you'll see a lot of that. >> All right. [laughter]
>> All right. [laughter] >> On three-day weekends and
>> On three-day weekends and >> loved that part of Lake Havasu, of
>> loved that part of Lake Havasu, of course.
course. >> Oh, it's hilarious. So then Harry
>> Oh, it's hilarious. So then Harry started to ride for JMC. He turned
started to ride for JMC. He turned professional. He went to Diamond back.
professional. He went to Diamond back. Is there anything that kind of stands
Is there anything that kind of stands out to you in that JMC to Diamondback
out to you in that JMC to Diamondback transition in Harry's life?
transition in Harry's life? >> Oh gosh, no. You know, I just the only
>> Oh gosh, no. You know, I just the only thing that stands out in my mind is he
thing that stands out in my mind is he was gone.
was gone. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Once he went with Diamond Back, that was
>> Once he went with Diamond Back, that was it. He was gone. He honestly when he I
it. He was gone. He honestly when he I believe when he was with JMC,
believe when he was with JMC, he met Jamie.
he met Jamie. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> Which was his very very first love. And
>> Which was his very very first love. And because of the animosity between my
because of the animosity between my brother and my father,
brother and my father, >> he ended up moving and living with her
>> he ended up moving and living with her parents.
parents. >> And that was about the time I believed
>> And that was about the time I believed between the JMC and the Diamond Back. So
between the JMC and the Diamond Back. So once he started racing Diamond Back, he
once he started racing Diamond Back, he traveled and he was gone. And so I very
traveled and he was gone. And so I very rarely saw him and we kind of lost touch
rarely saw him and we kind of lost touch in those years that he was with Diamond
in those years that he was with Diamond Back,
Back, >> but he did eventually
>> but he did eventually return to the family.
return to the family. >> He did. There was animosity because my
>> He did. There was animosity because my mother and my father did not want him
mother and my father did not want him moving out. You couldn't stop him. He
moving out. You couldn't stop him. He was on his own. He was making a living.
was on his own. He was making a living. He was doing what he wanted to do. And
He was doing what he wanted to do. And as far as the family was concerned,
as far as the family was concerned, yeah, he would stop by and but he and my
yeah, he would stop by and but he and my father never really
father never really got a relationship back after that. It
got a relationship back after that. It was kind of severed.
was kind of severed. >> Yeah. Then my brother and I, we were
>> Yeah. Then my brother and I, we were always close, but that period in his
always close, but that period in his life, he's got this young person who is
life, he's got this young person who is gifted and he's in charge of a team and
gifted and he's in charge of a team and he's traveling, he's making money. And
he's traveling, he's making money. And at that age,
at that age, I mean, they don't usually look back.
I mean, they don't usually look back. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And I think he did at that point. I
>> And I think he did at that point. I think he was gonna do it for himself.
think he was gonna do it for himself. And I believe that he felt that my
And I believe that he felt that my father,
father, >> not so much my mother, but that my
>> not so much my mother, but that my father was holding him back for
father was holding him back for achieving his dreams.
achieving his dreams. >> Because they never felt that he was
>> Because they never felt that he was going to go anywhere in bikes.
going to go anywhere in bikes. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> They wanted him to go to college and
>> They wanted him to go to college and Harry did not go to college.
Harry did not go to college. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And if he didn't do my dad, you know,
>> And if he didn't do my dad, you know, wanted him to do this, that, and many
wanted him to do this, that, and many other thing. And Harry pretty much said,
other thing. And Harry pretty much said, "Screw you. I'm going to do what I want
"Screw you. I'm going to do what I want to do." And at that point, I think a lot
to do." And at that point, I think a lot of Harry's drive
of Harry's drive >> came from the fact that he was going to
>> came from the fact that he was going to prove his family wrong. His family
prove his family wrong. His family meaning his father. And I think that
meaning his father. And I think that honestly is what kind of
honestly is what kind of sent Harry in his driven direction.
sent Harry in his driven direction. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> But then I believe once he found out
>> But then I believe once he found out just how good he was and the world found
just how good he was and the world found out how good he was, that's when he took
out how good he was, that's when he took off.
off. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And I think his drive came from another
>> And I think his drive came from another direction. He came back and you
direction. He came back and you mentioned Jamie.
mentioned Jamie. I have don't know very much about Jamie
I have don't know very much about Jamie or any of the other women in his lives,
or any of the other women in his lives, but I believe he was married twice and I
but I believe he was married twice and I thought he was married to Jamie as well,
thought he was married to Jamie as well, but I guess I could have gotten that
but I guess I could have gotten that wrong.
wrong. >> No, actually he did marry Jamie.
>> No, actually he did marry Jamie. >> Oh, he was married to Jamie. Let's see.
>> Oh, he was married to Jamie. Let's see. He married Denise. That was his first
He married Denise. That was his first wife.
wife. >> Okay. and they divorced and then he met
>> Okay. and they divorced and then he met Alicia which is Briana's mother, Harry's
Alicia which is Briana's mother, Harry's daughter and then they were married for
daughter and then they were married for I'm going to say two to three years and
I'm going to say two to three years and then they divorced and Harry was by
then they divorced and Harry was by himself for quite some time.
himself for quite some time. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And he and Jamie hooked up again and he
>> And he and Jamie hooked up again and he ended up marrying Jamie.
ended up marrying Jamie. >> Ah okay.
>> Ah okay. >> So he was married three times. After
>> So he was married three times. After Jamie, he met Shelly and Shelley was the
Jamie, he met Shelly and Shelley was the love of his life.
love of his life. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Shel and Harry never did marry because
>> Shel and Harry never did marry because Shelley was married to a military person
Shelley was married to a military person who died of cancer.
who died of cancer. >> So, she had a whole lot of benefits.
>> So, she had a whole lot of benefits. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> That she would lose if she married.
>> That she would lose if she married. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> And thank God she didn't because she
>> And thank God she didn't because she became terminally ill.
became terminally ill. >> Yeah. And then we lost her to pancreatic
>> Yeah. And then we lost her to pancreatic cancer. And at that point was Harry's
cancer. And at that point was Harry's spiral I believe started that's what
spiral I believe started that's what started his spiral.
started his spiral. >> That makes sense.
>> That makes sense. >> His anger his anger issues was when he
>> His anger his anger issues was when he lost Shel.
lost Shel. >> That makes sense. I can't imagine having
>> That makes sense. I can't imagine having the love of my life ripped away like
the love of my life ripped away like that.
that. >> Yeah. No, we were all there. Harry stuck
>> Yeah. No, we were all there. Harry stuck by her side. He was her rock. He took
by her side. He was her rock. He took care of her. Um, it was a long and
care of her. Um, it was a long and painful illness and when she passed,
painful illness and when she passed, something left with Harry as well.
something left with Harry as well. Shel was around when he had his track.
Shel was around when he had his track. He met Shel through and I wish I could
He met Shel through and I wish I could remember his name. The guy was at the
remember his name. The guy was at the celebration of life with Harry and for
celebration of life with Harry and for the life of me, I can't remember his
the life of me, I can't remember his name, introduced Harry and Shel
name, introduced Harry and Shel together.
together. >> Oh, wow.
>> Oh, wow. >> They hit it off and they both raced.
>> They hit it off and they both raced. Harry trained Shelly and then they had
Harry trained Shelly and then they had the track and Shelley was there and then
the track and Shelley was there and then she passed and then at that point kind
she passed and then at that point kind of I don't want to say went off the deep
of I don't want to say went off the deep end but you know we lost touch again.
end but you know we lost touch again. >> Sure. Okay.
>> Sure. Okay. >> I appreciate you sharing about that. I
>> I appreciate you sharing about that. I don't know much about Shelly and as I
don't know much about Shelly and as I said I don't know much about Jamie but
said I don't know much about Jamie but there's a couple of things I have
there's a couple of things I have learned and I guess kind of a backstory
learned and I guess kind of a backstory of how I learned of Shelly was that I
of how I learned of Shelly was that I actually had a signed number plate to
actually had a signed number plate to Shelly from Harry and I gave it to her
Shelly from Harry and I gave it to her friend Greg
friend Greg >> Matias well I have to tell you I am now
>> Matias well I have to tell you I am now in possession of that license that plate
in possession of that license that plate gave it to me
gave it to me >> and it is one of my most treasured
>> and it is one of my most treasured possessions at this time because Shelly
possessions at this time because Shelly was like my sister.
was like my sister. >> My goodness.
>> My goodness. >> And when I saw that, I believe it said
>> And when I saw that, I believe it said to my girl Shelly.
to my girl Shelly. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And I just started crying when I saw it
>> And I just started crying when I saw it cuz it was very heartfelt. And I did not
cuz it was very heartfelt. And I did not know that you were originally in
know that you were originally in possession of that.
possession of that. >> Oh, yes, ma'am. I was mine to Greg. So,
>> Oh, yes, ma'am. I was mine to Greg. So, >> Well, I hope you don't mind. It ended up
>> Well, I hope you don't mind. It ended up with Harry Sisters.
with Harry Sisters. >> I'm hoping for the right home for the
>> I'm hoping for the right home for the right things.
right things. >> How did you come across it?
>> How did you come across it? >> I bought it on eBay.
>> I bought it on eBay. >> Oh, you did? and just like everything.
>> Oh, you did? and just like everything. I'm buy all my stuff online for the most
I'm buy all my stuff online for the most part. [snorts]
part. [snorts] >> So, I go between BMX Museum and eBay and
>> So, I go between BMX Museum and eBay and and that's how I got that one.
and that's how I got that one. >> Wow. That's Thank you very much.
>> Wow. That's Thank you very much. >> You're welcome.
>> You're welcome. >> So, yeah, Shel was a great person. We
>> So, yeah, Shel was a great person. We did a lot of boating, the all of us
did a lot of boating, the all of us together, a lot of camping, motorcycle
together, a lot of camping, motorcycle riding, and I ended up buying Shel's
riding, and I ended up buying Shel's bike from Harry after she passed.
bike from Harry after she passed. >> Oh. She had a Honda 230 CRF and so I
>> Oh. She had a Honda 230 CRF and so I ended up with that bike and I bought a
ended up with that bike and I bought a 400 off of Harry for my son.
400 off of Harry for my son. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> So we all rode red bikes.
>> So we all rode red bikes. >> Everybody rode red all the way.
>> Everybody rode red all the way. [laughter]
[laughter] >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> That is awesome. I've seen the ride red
>> That is awesome. I've seen the ride red stickers on his bikes and it's pretty
stickers on his bikes and it's pretty fun.
fun. >> Yeah. It was always red bikes for sure.
>> Yeah. It was always red bikes for sure. I mean he grew up with Hondas so that
I mean he grew up with Hondas so that was all all we rode.
was all all we rode. >> That's awesome. Besides riding, I know
>> That's awesome. Besides riding, I know he had a hobby that you haven't
he had a hobby that you haven't mentioned yet to be honest with you, and
mentioned yet to be honest with you, and that's dancing. And here's how I know on
that's dancing. And here's how I know on it. For the same reason I know about
it. For the same reason I know about Jamie, and it's because Jamie said that
Jamie, and it's because Jamie said that he was a dancer and had very wonderful
he was a dancer and had very wonderful things to say about him. And the dancing
things to say about him. And the dancing really got my attention.
really got my attention. >> Both Harry and I have a hell of a lot of
>> Both Harry and I have a hell of a lot of rhythm.
rhythm. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Um and he could definitely dance.
>> Um and he could definitely dance. >> Yeah. And so as far as a hobby,
>> Yeah. And so as far as a hobby, I've seen he would I mean when he lived
I've seen he would I mean when he lived here, we would have the music going.
here, we would have the music going. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> We would be dancing through the house
>> We would be dancing through the house and at his wedding he was dancing and
and at his wedding he was dancing and >> my sister and my brother and I, all
>> my sister and my brother and I, all three of us were out on the dance floor
three of us were out on the dance floor and we provided quite the sight, I'll
and we provided quite the sight, I'll tell you.
tell you. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> So yeah, he really could. And after
>> So yeah, he really could. And after talking to Jamie, I didn't realize that
talking to Jamie, I didn't realize that Harry had such a romantic nature.
Harry had such a romantic nature. >> Oh, you didn't see that as sister
>> Oh, you didn't see that as sister though. So, I mean that makes sense.
though. So, I mean that makes sense. >> I have found out a lot about my brother
>> I have found out a lot about my brother since he passed. A lot of things I did
since he passed. A lot of things I did not know that made him more more human,
not know that made him more more human, I guess you could say. Sure.
I guess you could say. Sure. >> And just more in depth
>> And just more in depth to his caring nature. He was a very
to his caring nature. He was a very loving person and the women in his life,
loving person and the women in his life, he's had some bad ones.
he's had some bad ones. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> And I know Harry's not the easiest
>> And I know Harry's not the easiest person to live with. And
person to live with. And >> honestly, as his CTE
>> honestly, as his CTE progressed, his
progressed, his anger, his paranoia, those things
anger, his paranoia, those things started to get worse
started to get worse and it took its toll on our family,
and it took its toll on our family, >> of course,
>> of course, >> on his relationships.
>> on his relationships. Originally, everybody thought, well,
Originally, everybody thought, well, he's using drugs. But at this point,
he's using drugs. But at this point, knowing what I know now about CTE,
knowing what I know now about CTE, >> yeah,
>> yeah, >> I don't believe that was the case any
>> I don't believe that was the case any longer. I completely believe that the
longer. I completely believe that the CTE took control of him. Not saying that
CTE took control of him. Not saying that he didn't have his demons, but
he didn't have his demons, but it was getting worse as he was getting
it was getting worse as he was getting older.
older. >> That's kind of the story I've heard and
>> That's kind of the story I've heard and understanding that I have to be honest
understanding that I have to be honest with you. and he has thankfully led me
with you. and he has thankfully led me to
to learn more and educate myself more about
learn more and educate myself more about CT. And if nothing else, I appreciate
CT. And if nothing else, I appreciate that insight.
that insight. >> I and I'm not really sure the avenues to
>> I and I'm not really sure the avenues to take at this point, but I would like to
take at this point, but I would like to do something in Harry's name to help
do something in Harry's name to help other people with CTE,
other people with CTE, particularly in the BMX world.
particularly in the BMX world. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> To open up doors. There might be people
>> To open up doors. There might be people out there with the same symptoms Harry
out there with the same symptoms Harry had.
had. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> That have no clue as to why they're
>> That have no clue as to why they're feeling the way they're feeling.
feeling the way they're feeling. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> They may think that they're crazy, but
>> They may think that they're crazy, but that's not the case.
that's not the case. >> It's a disease. They have a form of
>> It's a disease. They have a form of brain damage.
brain damage. >> And I'm not even sure how to go about
>> And I'm not even sure how to go about it.
it. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> I just feel that God will open the doors
>> I just feel that God will open the doors up for me when the time is right. And I
up for me when the time is right. And I just feel that
just feel that there's more meaning to Harry's death
there's more meaning to Harry's death than what is happening at this point in
than what is happening at this point in time. There's more.
time. There's more. >> Well, I believe that and I wouldn't be
>> Well, I believe that and I wouldn't be here having this conversation with you
here having this conversation with you if I didn't wholeheartedly believe that.
if I didn't wholeheartedly believe that. So
So yeah,
yeah, >> it would add meaning to his life and
>> it would add meaning to his life and make the legend Harry Liry the legend
make the legend Harry Liry the legend live on in as much as people could think
live on in as much as people could think of him more along the lines of well he
of him more along the lines of well he had CTE but look at what he's done in
had CTE but look at what he's done in awareness of that disease.
awareness of that disease. >> Yeah. because of him. I want to bring on
>> Yeah. because of him. I want to bring on awareness of this disease
awareness of this disease and have Harry be the catalyst of it
and have Harry be the catalyst of it because because of his name, because he
because because of his name, because he was so well known, because of his
was so well known, because of his history and his stories and the haters
history and his stories and the haters in the world, it just would be nice to
in the world, it just would be nice to be able to look back on him and say,
be able to look back on him and say, "Well, you know, because of him, we were
"Well, you know, because of him, we were able to find out this and it saved
able to find out this and it saved children,
children, saved other riders. They may have gone
saved other riders. They may have gone in and gotten checked, you know, who
in and gotten checked, you know, who knows?
knows? >> Yeah, I think it's the right path. I
>> Yeah, I think it's the right path. I think that God will show you the way to
think that God will show you the way to that. And I think it's an amazing
that. And I think it's an amazing goal.
goal. >> Yeah. Yeah. I just am not sure how to go
>> Yeah. Yeah. I just am not sure how to go about it, but
about it, but >> we can put some smart heads together.
>> we can put some smart heads together. >> Yeah, we will.
>> Yeah, we will. >> There you go. Sure. Love it.
>> There you go. Sure. Love it. >> But ah, you love it too, huh?
>> But ah, you love it too, huh? >> [screaming]
>> [screaming] >> Yeah.
>> Oh, but I kind of get it cuz I was on Harry's side a little, you know, at the
Harry's side a little, you know, at the the age of 39, I got diagnosed bipolar
the age of 39, I got diagnosed bipolar one and my world got turned upside down
one and my world got turned upside down and I'm seven years past that. Barely
and I'm seven years past that. Barely getting past that. It's not easy and my
getting past that. It's not easy and my heart is out to anybody afflicted like
heart is out to anybody afflicted like this.
this. Well, the problem with that kind of an
Well, the problem with that kind of an affliction is unless you are diagnosed,
affliction is unless you are diagnosed, you don't know what the problem is.
you don't know what the problem is. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> You automatically think something is
>> You automatically think something is horribly wrong with you. And a lot of
horribly wrong with you. And a lot of people will turn to
people will turn to drug or some outside source, it's going
drug or some outside source, it's going to make you feel better and make you
to make you feel better and make you forget.
forget. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And it's an illness that brings on
>> And it's an illness that brings on addictions.
addictions. >> Yeah. that brings on other bad behavior.
>> Yeah. that brings on other bad behavior. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And I don't think that the general
>> And I don't think that the general population in the BMX world who knew
population in the BMX world who knew Harry ever thought past that. I think
Harry ever thought past that. I think they looked at Harry as a star, a BMX
they looked at Harry as a star, a BMX legend, and he had a certain protocol he
legend, and he had a certain protocol he was supposed to follow, and whenever he
was supposed to follow, and whenever he fell off of what people felt that he
fell off of what people felt that he should be,
should be, >> it didn't look good. But they never
>> it didn't look good. But they never delved into, well, what if he has this
delved into, well, what if he has this problem? Maybe there's something wrong.
problem? Maybe there's something wrong. Maybe there is more to Harry Liry than
Maybe there is more to Harry Liry than what everybody thinks there is.
what everybody thinks there is. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And there was.
>> And there was. >> Yeah, there absolutely was. I believe
>> Yeah, there absolutely was. I believe that. Out of curiosity, if you don't
that. Out of curiosity, if you don't mind framing this for me, we've kind of
mind framing this for me, we've kind of touched on some things, but in many
touched on some things, but in many instances, I see that the vast majority
instances, I see that the vast majority of his supporters are women.
of his supporters are women. and have heard wonderful things about
and have heard wonderful things about Harry with children as well. Yet I see
Harry with children as well. Yet I see kind of so many scary stories that from
kind of so many scary stories that from people are outsiders in my opinion. How
people are outsiders in my opinion. How is that true that the it seems like so
is that true that the it seems like so many of the women on the inside of his
many of the women on the inside of his circle wholeheartedly support him still?
circle wholeheartedly support him still? Even Jamie?
Even Jamie? >> Yeah, even Jamie. Jamie is a great gal.
>> Yeah, even Jamie. Jamie is a great gal. I consider her my sister as well because
I consider her my sister as well because she was. Yeah, she was my sister-in-law.
she was. Yeah, she was my sister-in-law. And there's some women that would
And there's some women that would probably say otherwise as to Harry, but
probably say otherwise as to Harry, but he was kind. I think his kindness came
he was kind. I think his kindness came out in children,
out in children, dogs, and women. Not so much in the male
dogs, and women. Not so much in the male population because he was so
population because he was so competitive.
competitive. >> Exactly. He was the alpha. Right.
>> Exactly. He was the alpha. Right. >> Exactly. And I think a lot of it was
>> Exactly. And I think a lot of it was being that competitive
being that competitive and you're racing other people and
and you're racing other people and you're constantly winning, you're going
you're constantly winning, you're going to have haters. And I think that Harry
to have haters. And I think that Harry more or less
more or less >> gravitated towards women cuz the men
>> gravitated towards women cuz the men looked at him more like a competitor.
looked at him more like a competitor. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> He had some good friends. I'm not going
>> He had some good friends. I'm not going to say that. you know, Eddie King, Clint
to say that. you know, Eddie King, Clint Miller, Greg at the end was there for
Miller, Greg at the end was there for the last eight months of Harry's life
the last eight months of Harry's life and Harry made a huge impact on Greg.
and Harry made a huge impact on Greg. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And the kindness that Harry showed Greg
>> And the kindness that Harry showed Greg is something that Greg will always
is something that Greg will always remember. And there was a kindness to
remember. And there was a kindness to Harry that a lot of people never saw.
Harry that a lot of people never saw. >> Yeah. I've learned that. It's kind of
>> Yeah. I've learned that. It's kind of cool to be honest with you.
cool to be honest with you. >> Far as gravitating towards the women,
>> Far as gravitating towards the women, how women felt about him.
how women felt about him. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. He was very open.
He was very open. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> And could easily talk to women more so
>> And could easily talk to women more so than he could to most men. And so it was
than he could to most men. And so it was easier to open up his feelings to women
easier to open up his feelings to women and talking a certain amount of the
and talking a certain amount of the women that were in his life that I
women that were in his life that I personally knew.
personally knew. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> He left his mark on all of them.
>> He left his mark on all of them. >> That's what I've seen. It's amazing to
>> That's what I've seen. It's amazing to see.
see. >> It really is. I've become very good
>> It really is. I've become very good friends with Die and Doy was a very
friends with Die and Doy was a very special friend to Harry's and so
special friend to Harry's and so >> I do too. Harry thought so highly of Doy
>> I do too. Harry thought so highly of Doy and she was around for quite a long time
and she was around for quite a long time and they were very good friends. They
and they were very good friends. They tried a relationship. It didn't work but
tried a relationship. It didn't work but they remained best friends and she was
they remained best friends and she was always there for him and he was there
always there for him and he was there for her.
for her. >> That's amazing. She actually sent me
>> That's amazing. She actually sent me some decals, I don't know, about two
some decals, I don't know, about two months ago that she had left over from
months ago that she had left over from Dirt Works. It was really cool. Really
Dirt Works. It was really cool. Really nice note and it was really sweet of
nice note and it was really sweet of her. She is an absolute sweetheart and I
her. She is an absolute sweetheart and I know Mike Miller speaks the world of
know Mike Miller speaks the world of her.
her. >> Oh yeah. She and Harry owned that track
>> Oh yeah. She and Harry owned that track and Mike Miller was the announcer at
and Mike Miller was the announcer at Harry's track.
Harry's track. >> Y
>> Y >> and I was the snack bar lady.
>> and I was the snack bar lady. >> I love it.
>> I love it. >> No, I'm actually reading Mike's book
>> No, I'm actually reading Mike's book right now. Are you really?
right now. Are you really? >> I'm doing a book club event series on
>> I'm doing a book club event series on his book right now. Yeah, it's pretty
his book right now. Yeah, it's pretty fun.
fun. >> Oh, wow. I would like to read that.
>> Oh, wow. I would like to read that. >> Yeah. Yeah, I'll shoot you over some
>> Yeah. Yeah, I'll shoot you over some info on it.
info on it. >> I even actually thought about writing
>> I even actually thought about writing and getting together with the the people
and getting together with the the people who could fill in the blanks.
who could fill in the blanks. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> An autobiography of Harry.
>> An autobiography of Harry. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> But I am not a writer. [laughter]
>> But I am not a writer. [laughter] >> But there is now
>> But there is now other ways that you could write books.
other ways that you could write books. No, I would be honored to be able to
No, I would be honored to be able to help you as best I can. I don't know
help you as best I can. I don't know what that means, but I think you're on
what that means, but I think you're on the right track with kind of filling
the right track with kind of filling those blanks and getting the story out
those blanks and getting the story out there. I think it could be done.
there. I think it could be done. >> I think so, too. There's certain avenues
>> I think so, too. There's certain avenues that I am now aware of that I can
that I am now aware of that I can utilize to fill in the time span. Yeah.
utilize to fill in the time span. Yeah. >> You know, Gork from USAB Next would be a
>> You know, Gork from USAB Next would be a good source of information.
good source of information. >> Yep. Absolutely. He's been great. I made
>> Yep. Absolutely. He's been great. I made a donation to them and the and Gor did
a donation to them and the and Gor did the unboxing for it. It was really fun
the unboxing for it. It was really fun working with him over that.
working with him over that. >> Well, you know, I have to tell you, I
>> Well, you know, I have to tell you, I just today
just today >> Eddie King is going to be at the the
>> Eddie King is going to be at the the Hall of Fame in September,
Hall of Fame in September, >> and I was [clears throat] going to try
>> and I was [clears throat] going to try to go, but it didn't work out. However,
to go, but it didn't work out. However, I did just today mail him
I did just today mail him >> an urn with Harry's ashes in it that
>> an urn with Harry's ashes in it that he's going to give to Gork
he's going to give to Gork >> in September. So, which I thought was
>> in September. So, which I thought was >> it needed to be there, you know, needed
>> it needed to be there, you know, needed to be there.
to be there. >> He won't be the first set of ashes
>> He won't be the first set of ashes there.
there. >> That's what Eddie was telling.
>> That's what Eddie was telling. [laughter]
[laughter] >> He will not be the first.
>> He will not be the first. >> And I think he just needs to be there.
>> And I think he just needs to be there. >> And look, there's hot air balloon.
>> And look, there's hot air balloon. >> Yeah, we get a lot of those here. They
>> Yeah, we get a lot of those here. They have them in March, more or less, and
have them in March, more or less, and January, February, there's a hot air
January, February, there's a hot air balloon festival out.
balloon festival out. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> And they're huge out here.
>> And they're huge out here. >> Okay. And uh so I guess this maybe lead
>> Okay. And uh so I guess this maybe lead to a question I I have about Harry. So
to a question I I have about Harry. So if I had a parachute for Harry to jump
if I had a parachute for Harry to jump out of a hot air balloon on his bike,
out of a hot air balloon on his bike, would he have taken me up on the
would he have taken me up on the opportunity?
opportunity? >> Yes. [laughter]
>> Yes. [laughter] >> I love it.
>> I love it. >> For sure. And let me tell you, Harry
>> For sure. And let me tell you, Harry said that if he ever got terminally ill,
said that if he ever got terminally ill, >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> he would never let his family know. What
>> he would never let his family know. What he would do is he would take his bike
he would do is he would take his bike and ride it off of the Grand Canyon to
and ride it off of the Grand Canyon to end his life.
end his life. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> So that was like Harry's ultimate. And
>> So that was like Harry's ultimate. And he used to talk about it all the time. I
he used to talk about it all the time. I said, "You know, you're stupid. You're
said, "You know, you're stupid. You're just stupid. Don't even talk about it."
just stupid. Don't even talk about it." But yeah, he would do any crazy stupid
But yeah, he would do any crazy stupid thing like that.
thing like that. >> So it's been a year since Harry passed.
>> So it's been a year since Harry passed. It's a year today.
It's a year today. >> Oh. Oh, wow.
>> Oh. Oh, wow. >> Exactly. Today.
>> Exactly. Today. >> Wow.
>> Wow. >> Is when I need to touch on this a little
>> Is when I need to touch on this a little bit. Is when the police showed up at my
bit. Is when the police showed up at my front door,
front door, >> but I believe that he passed on the 5th
>> but I believe that he passed on the 5th of September. Yes.
of September. Yes. >> And the 7th is what's on his death
>> And the 7th is what's on his death certificate. And it's when they found
certificate. And it's when they found him.
him. >> Oh. Oh. 10:30 in the morning on
>> Oh. Oh. 10:30 in the morning on September 7th. A year ago today.
September 7th. A year ago today. >> One year ago today. That's
>> One year ago today. That's Do you mind if we talk a little bit more
Do you mind if we talk a little bit more about kind of that life since then? How
about kind of that life since then? How things have been?
things have been? >> Yes, we can talk about the morning. I
>> Yes, we can talk about the morning. I was that they showed up. Um, yeah. No,
was that they showed up. Um, yeah. No, I'm open just to ask me questions. I'll
I'm open just to ask me questions. I'll be as forthcoming as I can be. So, you
be as forthcoming as I can be. So, you said you were notified by the police of
said you were notified by the police of Harry's passing.
Harry's passing. Do you mind kind of walking me through
Do you mind kind of walking me through that scene and say perhaps the following
that scene and say perhaps the following 48 hours in your world?
48 hours in your world? >> It was about noon that they showed up at
>> It was about noon that they showed up at my door. And when I walked out there,
my door. And when I walked out there, there was a policeman sitting on my
there was a policeman sitting on my front porch. And I'm like,
front porch. And I'm like, >> originally I feel, you know, my daughter
>> originally I feel, you know, my daughter was up hunting in Colorado in the back
was up hunting in Colorado in the back mountains and when he showed up on my
mountains and when he showed up on my doorstep, I had this overwhelming fear
doorstep, I had this overwhelming fear that it was about her.
that it was about her. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> And
>> And >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> So when I walked out and they asked me,
>> So when I walked out and they asked me, "Do you know Harry Liry?" And then of
"Do you know Harry Liry?" And then of course I felt a total sense of relief. I
course I felt a total sense of relief. I said, "Yeah, he's my brother." And so I
said, "Yeah, he's my brother." And so I originally thought, "Okay, they're here
originally thought, "Okay, they're here to serve him with papers for something
to serve him with papers for something he did." Yeah, makes sense, right?
he did." Yeah, makes sense, right? >> Exactly. And I said, "Well, yeah, he's
>> Exactly. And I said, "Well, yeah, he's my brother." And at that point, he said,
my brother." And at that point, he said, "Well, I need to tell you he's
"Well, I need to tell you he's deceased." I asked the policeman how
deceased." I asked the policeman how what happened. And what they did is they
what happened. And what they did is they gave me the the number of the officer
gave me the the number of the officer that took the report and that had went
that took the report and that had went out and found him basically. Sure.
out and found him basically. Sure. >> And so then at that point I called that
>> And so then at that point I called that officer and spoke to him briefly.
officer and spoke to him briefly. Somebody did a we tip phone call and
Somebody did a we tip phone call and told them that they found him in his car
told them that they found him in his car off of the 10 freeway
off of the 10 freeway by courtsite in the middle of nowhere
by courtsite in the middle of nowhere off an exit.
off an exit. >> Exit 69 on the 10 freeway is where they
>> Exit 69 on the 10 freeway is where they found him. And I've been there several
found him. And I've been there several times and there's nothing out there.
times and there's nothing out there. >> Honestly, I don't I think he pulled over
>> Honestly, I don't I think he pulled over to to get some sleep honestly
to to get some sleep honestly >> and just never woke up. And that I
>> and just never woke up. And that I believe
believe and Greg Matas, Harry's friend, believes
and Greg Matas, Harry's friend, believes as well cuz he was trying to get in
as well cuz he was trying to get in touch with Harry and his communication
touch with Harry and his communication stopped on that Thursday that I believe
stopped on that Thursday that I believe he passed. I am going to get a little
he passed. I am going to get a little graphic here and if that's not okay, I
graphic here and if that's not okay, I understand. But you have the floor,
understand. But you have the floor, Brenda.
Brenda. >> They did tell me that he was
>> They did tell me that he was unrecognizable.
unrecognizable. So, he had been in a hot car for a good
So, he had been in a hot car for a good 24 plus hours.
24 plus hours. >> Wow.
>> Wow. >> Cuz they did not even recognize him. He
>> Cuz they did not even recognize him. He did not die on the 7th at 10:30 in the
did not die on the 7th at 10:30 in the morning. That's when they found him.
morning. That's when they found him. >> Yeah. So tried to get the exact time of
>> Yeah. So tried to get the exact time of death, but I'm just going based on the
death, but I'm just going based on the last bit of communication, based on the
last bit of communication, based on the fact that he was in that car for a
fact that he was in that car for a while. That's kind of what Greg and I
while. That's kind of what Greg and I came up with at that point had got that
came up with at that point had got that phone call and apparently they had also
phone call and apparently they had also called his daughter Briana.
called his daughter Briana. >> Okay. And then Briana and I spoke a
>> Okay. And then Briana and I spoke a little bit, but I immediately called my
little bit, but I immediately called my sister
sister because I was petrified that they were
because I was petrified that they were going to show up my mother's door.
going to show up my mother's door. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> And what mother wants a policeman to
>> And what mother wants a policeman to show up at her door and tell her that
show up at her door and tell her that her son has passed. After I got that
her son has passed. After I got that news, I was on the road within an hour
news, I was on the road within an hour driving to California from Lake Havsu.
driving to California from Lake Havsu. And I don't even remember that drive.
And I don't even remember that drive. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Truth be told.
>> Truth be told. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> I talked to my sister. We actually
>> I talked to my sister. We actually called my mother
called my mother >> and both of us told her, but both of us
>> and both of us told her, but both of us left. She was she's in Sil Beach. So,
left. She was she's in Sil Beach. So, she left her home. I left mine and we
she left her home. I left mine and we both went there for her.
both went there for her. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> And so, we were there for her and we
>> And so, we were there for her and we were all in shock. My mother included.
were all in shock. My mother included. Yeah. And that whole weekend is just a
Yeah. And that whole weekend is just a blur to me.
blur to me. >> So you mentioned Greg and I I chatted
>> So you mentioned Greg and I I chatted with Greg and he mentioned that you
with Greg and he mentioned that you didn't know who he was at first. I guess
didn't know who he was at first. I guess you kind of gave him the third degree
you kind of gave him the third degree just because you didn't know who he was.
just because you didn't know who he was. And
And >> I did, but I a lot of it is really vague
>> I did, but I a lot of it is really vague to me. But I believe that Suzanne, his
to me. But I believe that Suzanne, his ex-girlfriend, messaged me and gave me
ex-girlfriend, messaged me and gave me Greg's number. She asked if I'd heard
Greg's number. She asked if I'd heard from Harry
from Harry >> and I didn't want to tell her what had
>> and I didn't want to tell her what had happened.
happened. >> So, I messaged Greg and I had to find
>> So, I messaged Greg and I had to find out who he was. Harry never mentioned
out who he was. Harry never mentioned Greg to me. He just said he had a
Greg to me. He just said he had a friend. And I did not know who Greg was.
friend. And I did not know who Greg was. >> Sure. But I'll tell you what, that man
>> Sure. But I'll tell you what, that man was a godsend to me. I don't know what I
was a godsend to me. I don't know what I would have done without him. Honestly,
would have done without him. Honestly, >> yeah.
>> yeah. >> And we've become very good friends. And
>> And we've become very good friends. And he is a wonderful person. A wonderful
he is a wonderful person. A wonderful person. I can't say enough good things
person. I can't say enough good things about that man.
about that man. >> What he did for me was just beyond
>> What he did for me was just beyond anything that anyone should have done.
anything that anyone should have done. And what he did for Harry, it's just
And what he did for Harry, it's just Yes. So
Yes. So >> he loved he loved Harry. It comes across
>> he loved he loved Harry. It comes across when you talk or you interact with Greg.
when you talk or you interact with Greg. He truly loved Harry.
He truly loved Harry. >> He did. He Harry was like a brother to
>> He did. He Harry was like a brother to him. I found out later. And Greg was in
him. I found out later. And Greg was in Harry's life the eight months that I was
Harry's life the eight months that I was not. And that was the eight months Harry
not. And that was the eight months Harry and I kind of lost touch. So Greg had
and I kind of lost touch. So Greg had information about my brother and how he
information about my brother and how he was doing and what he was doing that I
was doing and what he was doing that I didn't know. And together we mourned. We
didn't know. And together we mourned. We helped each other get through moments
helped each other get through moments that we needed to get through. And we're
that we needed to get through. And we're still doing that. Probably chatted on
still doing that. Probably chatted on the phone
the phone dozen times a day for quite some time.
dozen times a day for quite some time. Um, so yeah. No, and you know, we still
Um, so yeah. No, and you know, we still talk. He'll always have a big piece of
talk. He'll always have a big piece of my heart for the fact that he was there
my heart for the fact that he was there for my brother and always has been and
for my brother and always has been and always will be.
always will be. >> He he told me a line a while back that
>> He he told me a line a while back that really stuck with me and it saved me
really stuck with me and it saved me quite a bit to your words. Right.
quite a bit to your words. Right. And I think that represents a lot of who
And I think that represents a lot of who Greg is is
Greg is is taking the time to listen and understand
taking the time to listen and understand before speaking and to be helpful.
before speaking and to be helpful. It's it's been tremendous what I've seen
It's it's been tremendous what I've seen from from him his side and it's really
from from him his side and it's really cool hear it from you.
cool hear it from you. >> Oh yeah. No, he's very softspoken
>> Oh yeah. No, he's very softspoken funny guy. Very funny guy. I mean, he
funny guy. Very funny guy. I mean, he made a horrible situation.
made a horrible situation. Honestly, kind of funny.
Honestly, kind of funny. >> It was crazy. I came back from my mom's.
>> It was crazy. I came back from my mom's. >> We had my husband and I had to go empty
>> We had my husband and I had to go empty out his car that was in
out his car that was in >> Oh, wow.
>> Oh, wow. >> You know, and of course the bike was
>> You know, and of course the bike was gone. And that was my biggest thing. I
gone. And that was my biggest thing. I had contacted Greg. I said, you know,
had contacted Greg. I said, you know, his bike was not in the car. And I was
his bike was not in the car. And I was adamant that I could not get out there
adamant that I could not get out there to check his apartment. And Greg was
to check his apartment. And Greg was able through the management and whatnot,
able through the management and whatnot, he was able to get a key and go into
he was able to get a key and go into Harry's apartment for me and he pulled
Harry's apartment for me and he pulled out. I said, "Just take everything of
out. I said, "Just take everything of importance out." And the bike was not
importance out." And the bike was not there. And so he did. I want to put this
there. And so he did. I want to put this out there because I've had several
out there because I've had several people contact me about wanting to buy
people contact me about wanting to buy some of Harry's things.
some of Harry's things. >> Harry had virtually nothing left.
>> Harry had virtually nothing left. >> Harry pretty much sold and he did not
>> Harry pretty much sold and he did not care a wit about monetary things. Yeah.
care a wit about monetary things. Yeah. >> And he pretty much sold everything. So
>> And he pretty much sold everything. So what was left was a few items of his
what was left was a few items of his >> personal things. And so I just wanted to
>> personal things. And so I just wanted to put that out there. I had one gentleman
put that out there. I had one gentleman >> ask me when I'm going to be selling some
>> ask me when I'm going to be selling some of Harry's bikes. What happened to him?
of Harry's bikes. What happened to him? And he literally said it in an angry
And he literally said it in an angry way. Well, whatever happened to all
way. Well, whatever happened to all Harry's stuff? And I'm like,
Harry's stuff? And I'm like, >> what?
>> what? >> Really? What what business is it of
>> Really? What what business is it of yours first of all? And honestly, I will
yours first of all? And honestly, I will never sell anything at Harry's. I had to
never sell anything at Harry's. I had to go to his car.
go to his car. >> And so, we had to empty out his car.
>> And so, we had to empty out his car. >> Of course, the stench in the car was not
>> Of course, the stench in the car was not the best. Some of the items that I had
the best. Some of the items that I had to take out of the car, his phone was in
to take out of the car, his phone was in there. I mean, his whoever took his bike
there. I mean, his whoever took his bike left his watch on his wrist, his wallet
left his watch on his wrist, his wallet in his pocket, and his phone in the
in his pocket, and his phone in the front seat.
front seat. >> The whole bike thing is just weird.
>> The whole bike thing is just weird. >> Yeah, it is. Um, and then the police
>> Yeah, it is. Um, and then the police wouldn't take a report. They wouldn't
wouldn't take a report. They wouldn't help me because it was in two
help me because it was in two jurisdictions. It was a fiasco to get
jurisdictions. It was a fiasco to get that bike back. Thank God for Greg Matus
that bike back. Thank God for Greg Matus and Rob Porter and his wife. They were
and Rob Porter and his wife. They were able to I'm going to say it
able to I'm going to say it >> set up a sting to get that bike back.
>> set up a sting to get that bike back. >> So, it was awesome. And Greg really did
>> So, it was awesome. And Greg really did a lot. There's a lot he didn't tell me.
a lot. There's a lot he didn't tell me. I know.
I know. >> Oh, sure. Yeah,
>> Oh, sure. Yeah, >> he did a lot. And again, when they found
>> he did a lot. And again, when they found the bike,
the bike, >> because Harry was Harry never let his
>> because Harry was Harry never let his bikes out of his sight ever, even
bikes out of his sight ever, even growing up.
growing up. >> And you just didn't touch Harry Ly's
>> And you just didn't touch Harry Ly's bike. That's one thing nobody ever did.
bike. That's one thing nobody ever did. You don't touch it.
You don't touch it. >> You would lose a hand on his
>> You would lose a hand on his >> I can imagine. Yeah.
>> I can imagine. Yeah. >> So, and he never let them out of his
>> So, and he never let them out of his sight. And he took his bike wherever he
sight. And he took his bike wherever he went because he was afraid to leave it
went because he was afraid to leave it at home because he was a little
at home because he was a little paranoid. I think it was the CTE.
paranoid. I think it was the CTE. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> And he was afraid that somebody was
>> And he was afraid that somebody was breaking into his apartment and stealing
breaking into his apartment and stealing stuff. So, a lot of paranoia came with
stuff. So, a lot of paranoia came with that with the CTE, which is a sign of
that with the CTE, which is a sign of it. After we got his car back, the next
it. After we got his car back, the next day, we had to drive out to his
day, we had to drive out to his apartment in Phoenix, and I had to empty
apartment in Phoenix, and I had to empty it out. And Greg, bless his heart, was
it out. And Greg, bless his heart, was there. He showed up there and he had
there. He showed up there and he had taken things out of Harry's apartment
taken things out of Harry's apartment that belonged to him and he gave
that belonged to him and he gave everything back to me. He even helped us
everything back to me. He even helped us go through the apartment together. And
go through the apartment together. And just having him there was very um
just having him there was very um supportive
supportive >> and we laughed, we cried. It was just
>> and we laughed, we cried. It was just two days of awful awful things. Yeah.
two days of awful awful things. Yeah. >> And then the third day I had to go to
>> And then the third day I had to go to the crimatory to pick up his personal
the crimatory to pick up his personal effects.
effects. >> Oh, okay.
>> Oh, okay. >> So, I did all that. My husband and I
>> So, I did all that. My husband and I did. I didn't want my mom involved. So,
did. I didn't want my mom involved. So, then I had Harry transferred from
then I had Harry transferred from courtsite cuz it I'm going to say it's a
courtsite cuz it I'm going to say it's a [ __ ] hole. I did not want my brother. He
[ __ ] hole. I did not want my brother. He was at the crematorium in Parker. I did
was at the crematorium in Parker. I did not want him there. Okay. So I had him
not want him there. Okay. So I had him transferred to Lake Havsu, the crematory
transferred to Lake Havsu, the crematory in Lake Havsu.
in Lake Havsu. >> Ironically enough,
>> Ironically enough, >> they have cremated several of my dogs,
>> they have cremated several of my dogs, but it's a wonderful place. They do
but it's a wonderful place. They do people and they do dogs. So, you know, I
people and they do dogs. So, you know, I thought what better place to have Harry
thought what better place to have Harry done than at a place that does both.
done than at a place that does both. >> Harry loved dogs. So,
>> Harry loved dogs. So, >> oh my god, he loved his dogs and dogs
>> oh my god, he loved his dogs and dogs loved him. Yeah.
loved him. Yeah. >> And dogs are a very good judge of
>> And dogs are a very good judge of character. All dogs loved Harry and that
character. All dogs loved Harry and that says something about his character.
says something about his character. >> If he was as big of a scumbag as people
>> If he was as big of a scumbag as people say he is, dogs would know.
say he is, dogs would know. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> So that's I'm just going to put throw
>> So that's I'm just going to put throw that out there. Dogs have a better sense
that out there. Dogs have a better sense of people than people have sense of
of people than people have sense of other people. Anybody that is a dog
other people. Anybody that is a dog lover will understand.
lover will understand. >> The cremation services. You were there,
>> The cremation services. You were there, right?
right? Yes, I was there just by myself. My
Yes, I was there just by myself. My daughter was going to come down,
daughter was going to come down, Jessica,
Jessica, >> but she lost her dad two years ago and
>> but she lost her dad two years ago and she was not emotionally ready to deal
she was not emotionally ready to deal with that. So,
with that. So, >> I decided I didn't want anybody there
>> I decided I didn't want anybody there with me that didn't want to be there for
with me that didn't want to be there for Harry.
Harry. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> And so, I did it by myself. He loved
>> And so, I did it by myself. He loved Creed. So I picked out three Creed songs
Creed. So I picked out three Creed songs that they played
that they played >> and I pushed the button and watched the
>> and I pushed the button and watched the box go in.
box go in. >> So yeah, it was a beautiful moment.
>> So yeah, it was a beautiful moment. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> But yet it was very hard at the same
>> But yet it was very hard at the same time.
time. >> I I can't imagine. I've never done that.
>> I I can't imagine. I've never done that. >> I'd always been there for my brother
>> I'd always been there for my brother through thick and thin. Whenever he
through thick and thin. Whenever he needed anything, I was there. Always.
needed anything, I was there. Always. always through his whole life and I was
always through his whole life and I was there at the end.
there at the end. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And it was a beautiful moment.
>> And it was a beautiful moment. >> You've had, I guess, a year now to the
>> You've had, I guess, a year now to the day to reflect
day to reflect since he's passed
since he's passed and we've talked about some things in
and we've talked about some things in the past and his dedication to the
the past and his dedication to the sport, we should say.
sport, we should say. >> Have you
>> Have you >> Yes. Have you found closure with his
>> Yes. Have you found closure with his dedication to the sport?
dedication to the sport? >> I was able to do that through having his
>> I was able to do that through having his celebration of life at Dirty Fest.
celebration of life at Dirty Fest. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> And just listening to some of what the
>> And just listening to some of what the people said about my brother and I
people said about my brother and I learned so much about him. When he was
learned so much about him. When he was in Diamond Back, I didn't realize he was
in Diamond Back, I didn't realize he was the manager of the team. I didn't know
the manager of the team. I didn't know the way that these younger kids and even
the way that these younger kids and even the older people looked up to him and
the older people looked up to him and how he ran that team. I didn't know any
how he ran that team. I didn't know any of that. Just saw my brother as a figure
of that. Just saw my brother as a figure at that point. I really didn't know. I
at that point. I really didn't know. I knew he was good.
knew he was good. >> I knew he made a living doing it, but I
>> I knew he made a living doing it, but I was a teenager
was a teenager >> and he didn't want his sister hanging
>> and he didn't want his sister hanging around. So Harry kind of went his own
around. So Harry kind of went his own way with the BMX world. And I tried to I
way with the BMX world. And I tried to I would go to his races a lot and I didn't
would go to his races a lot and I didn't go to watch my brother race.
go to watch my brother race. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> I went there to meet his friends.
>> I went there to meet his friends. >> I imagine
>> I imagine >> cuz he had a lot of cute friends. So,
>> cuz he had a lot of cute friends. So, >> but I saw Harry race a lot.
>> but I saw Harry race a lot. >> Yeah. But I think one of the most
>> Yeah. But I think one of the most memorable races I saw Harry race was it
memorable races I saw Harry race was it was on a dirt track and honestly I don't
was on a dirt track and honestly I don't remember where it was
remember where it was >> but somebody took him out on a turn
>> but somebody took him out on a turn >> and he went and he picked his bike up
>> and he went and he picked his bike up and when that person passed back by him
and when that person passed back by him on the next turn
on the next turn >> Harry chucked his bike at him
>> Harry chucked his bike at him >> and his bike
>> and his bike >> and I thought right on that's my brother
>> and I thought right on that's my brother that is the coolest thing at that point
that is the coolest thing at that point I think was when Harry started getting
I think was when Harry started getting the name Harry Scary Larry. And I don't
the name Harry Scary Larry. And I don't know if you knew that they called him
know if you knew that they called him that.
that. >> I did. Yes. Uh not very long because
>> I did. Yes. Uh not very long because then he was turbo, right?
then he was turbo, right? >> Yeah. But he was Harry Scary Larry. And
>> Yeah. But he was Harry Scary Larry. And he was pretty scary when he lost his
he was pretty scary when he lost his temper.
temper. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> With his racing, he was so dedicated and
>> With his racing, he was so dedicated and just focused and anybody messed with
just focused and anybody messed with him, they got it in return. That's what
him, they got it in return. That's what BMX was about back then.
BMX was about back then. >> Yeah. Now, what happened at the Grands,
>> Yeah. Now, what happened at the Grands, like
like >> future BMXing, we're talking old school.
>> future BMXing, we're talking old school. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And that's how they did it back then.
>> And that's how they did it back then. None of this Oh, well, he hit me on the
None of this Oh, well, he hit me on the turn. Now, Harry gave [ __ ] when it was
turn. Now, Harry gave [ __ ] when it was given to him.
given to him. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Always.
>> Always. >> Always.
>> Always. >> You always got payback, right?
>> You always got payback, right? >> Yeah. And there's sometimes he probably
>> Yeah. And there's sometimes he probably should have kept it. Well, [laughter]
should have kept it. Well, [laughter] perfect.
perfect. >> Chew your words, right?
>> Chew your words, right? >> Yeah. No, definitely. And that probably
>> Yeah. No, definitely. And that probably wasn't the smartest thing he did at the
wasn't the smartest thing he did at the grands, but the uproar over it was, in
grands, but the uproar over it was, in my opinion, a little much, you know.
my opinion, a little much, you know. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And did he deserve what he got out of
>> And did he deserve what he got out of it?
it? >> I think it was more
>> I think it was more >> I don't think it was the BMX sport
>> I don't think it was the BMX sport itself. I think it was the writers and
itself. I think it was the writers and the people involved in the sport that
the people involved in the sport that were clamoring for something that needed
were clamoring for something that needed to be done. They had to do something.
to be done. They had to do something. >> They changed. They made changes out of
>> They changed. They made changes out of because of it.
because of it. >> Yeah. What they really should start
>> Yeah. What they really should start making changes on is the CTE that goes
making changes on is the CTE that goes on in the sport. And that's what they
on in the sport. And that's what they should concentrate on. The injuries that
should concentrate on. The injuries that that these young kids up and coming are
that these young kids up and coming are going to be suffering cuz they're on
going to be suffering cuz they're on hard tracks now. They're not on dirt
hard tracks now. They're not on dirt tracks.
tracks. >> Yeah. It's changed. I look at these
>> Yeah. It's changed. I look at these tracks and they terrify me to be honest.
tracks and they terrify me to be honest. >> My granddaughter Harry's great niece
>> My granddaughter Harry's great niece just started racing. The first thing I
just started racing. The first thing I did and I talked to Greg, he pointed me
did and I talked to Greg, he pointed me in the right direction. I got her a Troy
in the right direction. I got her a Troy Lee helmet that is specifically made for
Lee helmet that is specifically made for CTE.
CTE. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> And that's what's on her little head.
>> And that's what's on her little head. >> That was the very first thing I bought.
>> That was the very first thing I bought. I'm an advocate for the CTE and I
I'm an advocate for the CTE and I honestly would love to have something in
honestly would love to have something in Harry's name. I believe that's what
Harry's name. I believe that's what ultimately probably killed him. I mean,
ultimately probably killed him. I mean, what led to his demise? I [snorts] think
what led to his demise? I [snorts] think that there is enough sound evidence to
that there is enough sound evidence to support that theory.
support that theory. >> So, as you look towards the future, what
>> So, as you look towards the future, what do you hope his legacy is?
do you hope his legacy is? >> I hope people view him
>> I hope people view him as the athlete that he was, that kids
as the athlete that he was, that kids nowadays can learn from his dedication,
nowadays can learn from his dedication, the work ethics that it took to be the
the work ethics that it took to be the person that he was. He worked out hard.
person that he was. He worked out hard. He trained hard. He was so focused. He
He trained hard. He was so focused. He was 60 what? 64 and he was still racing.
was 60 what? 64 and he was still racing. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. I look at his pictures and I'm
>> Yeah. I look at his pictures and I'm like, are you kidding me? First off, he
like, are you kidding me? First off, he doesn't look his age. But second of all,
doesn't look his age. But second of all, I'm like, my goodness, the guy was a
I'm like, my goodness, the guy was a beast.
beast. >> He was a beast. Been riding a mountain
>> He was a beast. Been riding a mountain bike that he used to ride this hill on
bike that he used to ride this hill on his BMX bike.
his BMX bike. >> Oh,
>> Oh, >> I'm sucking wind, right? And [laughter]
>> I'm sucking wind, right? And [laughter] because it's not an ebike, it's a
because it's not an ebike, it's a mountain bike. And I'm thinking,
mountain bike. And I'm thinking, >> how in the hell did he do this? I'm
>> how in the hell did he do this? I'm going through my gears like a crazy
going through my gears like a crazy person. How did he do this on a BMX
person. How did he do this on a BMX bike?
bike? >> And then I could hear him in my ear.
>> And then I could hear him in my ear. Sister, don't stop.
Sister, don't stop. >> Cuz Harry and I worked out quite often
>> Cuz Harry and I worked out quite often together.
together. >> And it was always a competition. Harry
>> And it was always a competition. Harry and I were always competing. I used to
and I were always competing. I used to beat him running, by the way. I could
beat him running, by the way. I could kick his ass running.
kick his ass running. >> Oh, yeah.
>> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. But as far as a bike, nah, never
>> Yeah. But as far as a bike, nah, never happened. I can imagine. Uh he was kind
happened. I can imagine. Uh he was kind of professional and he kind of like I
of professional and he kind of like I guess he was kind of professional and
guess he was kind of professional and made a living out of it for a while. So
made a living out of it for a while. So you might have had a tough chance there.
you might have had a tough chance there. >> No chance.
>> No chance. >> But you said something that caught my
>> But you said something that caught my attention. You said that you could hear
attention. You said that you could hear Harry say, "Sister, don't stop." Is that
Harry say, "Sister, don't stop." Is that something he he regularly said to you?
something he he regularly said to you? Is that kind of like one of his phrases?
Is that kind of like one of his phrases? >> Oh, yeah. You can do it. You can do
>> Oh, yeah. You can do it. You can do whatever you set your mind to.
bikini competition I did. He told me that if you need to do it, if that's
that if you need to do it, if that's something you feel like you want to do,
something you feel like you want to do, because I always wanted to do one. My
because I always wanted to do one. My husband competed natural. All of it was
husband competed natural. All of it was natural and mine is definitely natural.
natural and mine is definitely natural. Um, and so I trained for it and I after
Um, and so I trained for it and I after Harry passed, it was something I felt I
Harry passed, it was something I felt I needed to do for my brother.
needed to do for my brother. >> That's awesome.
>> That's awesome. >> And I accomplished it. So yeah, it was
>> And I accomplished it. So yeah, it was something Harry was always there pushing
something Harry was always there pushing me on my dirt bikes, pushing my kids on
me on my dirt bikes, pushing my kids on their dirt bikes and their BMX bikes. He
their dirt bikes and their BMX bikes. He never asked anybody to do anything that
never asked anybody to do anything that he wasn't willing to do himself
he wasn't willing to do himself and that is always something that stood
and that is always something that stood out in my mind.
out in my mind. >> It's a sign of a good [snorts] leader.
>> It's a sign of a good [snorts] leader. >> I was always always trying to keep up
>> I was always always trying to keep up with him all through growing up and like
with him all through growing up and like I said, I used to be able to beat him in
I said, I used to be able to beat him in a running race.
a running race. >> Yeah. for a quite a long time. But then,
>> Yeah. for a quite a long time. But then, you know, boys will be boys, girls will
you know, boys will be boys, girls will be girls, and he was able to beat me
be girls, and he was able to beat me eventually. So, but I could say that.
eventually. So, but I could say that. Yeah, I kicked your ass, dude.
Yeah, I kicked your ass, dude. >> I like to play a game called one word.
>> I like to play a game called one word. Are you down?
Are you down? >> I'm totally down.
>> I'm totally down. >> All right, so we're going to do it
>> All right, so we're going to do it twice, so I guess you get two words.
twice, so I guess you get two words. Nobody else has ever had two words that
Nobody else has ever had two words that have asked on this. So,
have asked on this. So, one word to describe Harry Liry as a
one word to describe Harry Liry as a brother.
brother. >> Dumbass.
>> Dumbass. >> Nah, I think either one word or two. I
>> Nah, I think either one word or two. I don't spell it as one word. So,
don't spell it as one word. So, >> that's what I called him. That's who and
>> that's what I called him. That's who and what he was to me.
what he was to me. >> I love it. That's awesome. You have your
>> I love it. That's awesome. You have your before knowledge. You have the knowledge
before knowledge. You have the knowledge you've gained since Harry's past.
you've gained since Harry's past. One word for whatever you believe your
One word for whatever you believe your brother was able to achieve as a BMX
brother was able to achieve as a BMX legend.
legend. >> Driven.
>> Driven. >> Love it.
>> Love it. >> He was driven, focused. He was just It
>> He was driven, focused. He was just It was like he there was something driving
was like he there was something driving that man.
that man. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> It was hard to figure out his
>> It was hard to figure out his dedication. It was hard to figure out
dedication. It was hard to figure out how come he beat the [ __ ] out of himself
how come he beat the [ __ ] out of himself so much.
so much. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And I mean, he did. He really, really
>> And I mean, he did. He really, really did.
did. >> Yeah. He raced when he shouldn't have
>> Yeah. He raced when he shouldn't have even been racing.
even been racing. >> Yeah, I've heard he's had some some
>> Yeah, I've heard he's had some some pretty severe injuries and he got right
pretty severe injuries and he got right on a bike right after that.
on a bike right after that. >> He did. And I can tell you about one of
>> He did. And I can tell you about one of them.
them. >> Yeah. What's that?
>> Yeah. What's that? >> He he was in his storage unit putting
>> He he was in his storage unit putting things away and he was climbing on a
things away and he was climbing on a ladder. The ladder slipped. He grabbed
ladder. The ladder slipped. He grabbed the beam overhead and it was razor sharp
the beam overhead and it was razor sharp and he ripped the tendons in his hand.
and he ripped the tendons in his hand. >> Oh my gosh.
>> Oh my gosh. >> He called me. He was screaming because
>> He called me. He was screaming because he just knew his BMX career was over.
he just knew his BMX career was over. >> And I can send you pictures of it. And
>> And I can send you pictures of it. And he ended up having to have surgery to
he ended up having to have surgery to reattach his tendons.
reattach his tendons. >> Oh wow.
>> Oh wow. >> In his hand. You know what? I don't
>> In his hand. You know what? I don't remember his right hand or his left
remember his right hand or his left hand, but I do know that he changed his
hand, but I do know that he changed his brake lever to the opposite hand so that
brake lever to the opposite hand so that he could still race. And he raced with a
he could still race. And he raced with a damn bandage on his hand.
damn bandage on his hand. >> Huh. Well, he had to have been used to
>> Huh. Well, he had to have been used to that because for the early part of his
that because for the early part of his career, he ran front and rear brakes.
career, he ran front and rear brakes. So, he wasn't a stranger to his left
So, he wasn't a stranger to his left hand or to the alternate hand. He just
hand or to the alternate hand. He just might have been a little out of
might have been a little out of commission on that bad one. [laughter]
commission on that bad one. [laughter] >> Yeah, I think he only took a month off.
>> Yeah, I think he only took a month off. And the doctor,
And the doctor, >> he was moving that hand and exercising
>> he was moving that hand and exercising it when the doctor had told him not to.
it when the doctor had told him not to. >> And he basically told the doctor to go
>> And he basically told the doctor to go [ __ ] himself. And Harry recouped at my
[ __ ] himself. And Harry recouped at my house and he was he was back on the road
house and he was he was back on the road after a month.
after a month. >> Wow. Wow.
>> Wow. Wow. >> And he Yeah, it was a bad injury. It
>> And he Yeah, it was a bad injury. It really was. Um
really was. Um >> that sounds I mean it sounds terrible.
>> that sounds I mean it sounds terrible. >> And that actually I think was his last
>> And that actually I think was his last really bad injury that he took that I am
really bad injury that he took that I am aware of was the severing of his tendons
aware of was the severing of his tendons in his hand.
in his hand. >> When was that? What was that? uh in the
>> When was that? What was that? uh in the 20 early 2020s or
20 early 2020s or >> Yeah, I'm thinking that's about when it
>> Yeah, I'm thinking that's about when it was now. I'm not real sure. We moved
was now. I'm not real sure. We moved permanently out there in 2021, so it may
permanently out there in 2021, so it may have been 2021.
have been 2021. >> Oh, wow. Okay.
>> Oh, wow. Okay. >> Or 2022, but um yeah, I'm thinking 2022,
>> Or 2022, but um yeah, I'm thinking 2022, honestly.
honestly. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> And I But I could be wrong all the time.
>> And I But I could be wrong all the time. >> It's okay.
>> It's okay. >> You know, I'm getting old, so
>> You know, I'm getting old, so >> I'm terrible with dates. Trust. I'm with
>> I'm terrible with dates. Trust. I'm with you on that.
you on that. >> I I am, too. I I mean I can remember
>> I I am, too. I I mean I can remember what I did yesterday, so
what I did yesterday, so >> I gotcha.
>> I gotcha. Oh, hey Ann, look at that. We're getting
Oh, hey Ann, look at that. We're getting close to the end of the bridge.
close to the end of the bridge. >> Yeah, look at that. Look at the water
>> Yeah, look at that. Look at the water down below.
down below. >> Wow, it's beautiful. And is that a is
>> Wow, it's beautiful. And is that a is that a stage I see?
that a stage I see? >> Yes, there is a stage there.
>> Yes, there is a stage there. >> That looks like a nice spot to catch a
>> That looks like a nice spot to catch a concert. It it is actually do different
concert. It it is actually do different announcements and different stage shows
announcements and different stage shows and especially at Christmas it's all
and especially at Christmas it's all decorated. So we have to go down this
decorated. So we have to go down this flight of stairs to get down to that.
flight of stairs to get down to that. Once we get down to the bottom of the
Once we get down to the bottom of the stairs we're going to hang a right and
stairs we're going to hang a right and that's where we put Harry's paver.
that's where we put Harry's paver. >> That's where the walkway is in right
>> That's where the walkway is in right there. Right there.
there. Right there. >> Yeah. You can see the walkway. It runs
>> Yeah. You can see the walkway. It runs right along the canal and the canal is
right along the canal and the canal is about maybe two miles long and we paddle
about maybe two miles long and we paddle board that all the time
board that all the time >> and Harry did try a little bit of paddle
>> and Harry did try a little bit of paddle boarding but I don't think it was his
boarding but I don't think it was his forte. Now put him in a boat that was
forte. Now put him in a boat that was Harry's world. He was very good boater.
Harry's world. He was very good boater. He grew up on boats. We all did. So we
He grew up on boats. We all did. So we at a very young age took a 19 ft boat up
at a very young age took a 19 ft boat up the Colorado River through the Grand
the Colorado River through the Grand Canyon and camped along the way. And I
Canyon and camped along the way. And I think I was like five or six maybe.
think I was like five or six maybe. >> Oh wow.
>> Oh wow. >> So yeah. And um Harry piloted the boats.
>> So yeah. And um Harry piloted the boats. He drove the boats. And he was
He drove the boats. And he was >> no more than a very young teenager at
>> no more than a very young teenager at the time.
the time. >> If we go down this pathway, you can see
>> If we go down this pathway, you can see the how the
the how the >> the path walkers, runners, bikers. That
>> the path walkers, runners, bikers. That stage right over there is where Harry
stage right over there is where Harry was doing some stunts and and you're not
was doing some stunts and and you're not supposed to be on that stage.
supposed to be on that stage. >> Wait. He was doing stunts on the stage
>> Wait. He was doing stunts on the stage or off the stage. on his bike with his
or off the stage. on his bike with his bike. Yeah, he was jumping off and
bike. Yeah, he was jumping off and jumping on and some guys came up on
jumping on and some guys came up on policemen, you know, well, security
policemen, you know, well, security guards on their bikes. They weren't real
guards on their bikes. They weren't real policemen.
policemen. >> They told him he needed to get off the
>> They told him he needed to get off the stage. Well, Harry's answer to that was,
stage. Well, Harry's answer to that was, "Fuck you."
"Fuck you." >> Yeah. Jesus.
>> Yeah. Jesus. >> And so, he took off on his bike.
>> And so, he took off on his bike. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And there was no way those two guys were
>> And there was no way those two guys were going to catch him. There's no way in
going to catch him. There's no way in hell. And that's what Harry thought.
hell. And that's what Harry thought. >> Yeah. But they radioed ahead and they
>> Yeah. But they radioed ahead and they had another guy coming down and it's
had another guy coming down and it's only 3 foot wide. So the one guy got him
only 3 foot wide. So the one guy got him and made him fall off his bike. Took the
and made him fall off his bike. Took the three guys to get him arrested. But
three guys to get him arrested. But yeah, goodness. He was arrested that day
yeah, goodness. He was arrested that day for jumping on that stage.
for jumping on that stage. >> He was just putting on a show.
>> He was just putting on a show. >> Oh yeah, he was just putting on a show.
>> Oh yeah, he was just putting on a show. He was not hurting anybody. He was just
He was not hurting anybody. He was just doing tricks, jumping off, but they
doing tricks, jumping off, but they frown on that. And Harry pretty much
frown on that. And Harry pretty much said, "Well, I'm going to do whatever I
said, "Well, I'm going to do whatever I want to do." And well, they took offense
want to do." And well, they took offense to it and decided that they weren't
to it and decided that they weren't going to allow him to do that. So,
going to allow him to do that. So, >> wow, what a fun story. [laughter]
>> wow, what a fun story. [laughter] >> Yeah, just a side note on the little
>> Yeah, just a side note on the little stage there. But
stage there. But >> is that a ferry? Where does that go?
>> is that a ferry? Where does that go? >> That is the casino boat that you can
>> That is the casino boat that you can take. It takes you, I think it's like
take. It takes you, I think it's like six bucks and it takes you across to the
six bucks and it takes you across to the casino on the California side and it's
casino on the California side and it's about a 105 minute drive and it drops
about a 105 minute drive and it drops you off. You can gamble, do whatever and
you off. You can gamble, do whatever and it goes every 20 minutes and you can
it goes every 20 minutes and you can catch that ferry going back and it runs
catch that ferry going back and it runs throughout the day.
throughout the day. >> Okay, that's kind of cool. Little fun
>> Okay, that's kind of cool. Little fun something to do there. Especially during
something to do there. Especially during the winter when there's no boating or
the winter when there's no boating or paddle boarding or any of the summer
paddle boarding or any of the summer event. We'll take that little boat over
event. We'll take that little boat over and have dinner and then come back.
and have dinner and then come back. >> Ah, this walkway.
>> Ah, this walkway. What a cool concept. I guess how long's
What a cool concept. I guess how long's this been here?
this been here? >> It's been there years. What's really
>> It's been there years. What's really cool is you don't a person doesn't have
cool is you don't a person doesn't have to have passed. You can get a brick is
to have passed. You can get a brick is if you look at these bricks down here,
if you look at these bricks down here, you can see where it's just somebody's
you can see where it's just somebody's name or a business name. And and this
name or a business name. And and this section here is for veterans.
section here is for veterans. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> So they actually have um and that the
>> So they actually have um and that the ones with the little medallions in the
ones with the little medallions in the middle.
middle. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Those are the ones that are for veterans
>> Those are the ones that are for veterans and people in in the service. And so you
and people in in the service. And so you could get them with their names on it
could get them with their names on it >> or the memorial if somebody passes.
>> or the memorial if somebody passes. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And so that's what I decided to do for
>> And so that's what I decided to do for Harry.
Harry. >> And we did what I tried to do and you'll
>> And we did what I tried to do and you'll see is Harry's signature move on that
see is Harry's signature move on that brick. And it just says Harry Larry
brick. And it just says Harry Larry Turbo on there and it shows him on the
Turbo on there and it shows him on the bike trying to do his signature move.
bike trying to do his signature move. But unfortunately they couldn't do it.
But unfortunately they couldn't do it. So it looks more like you'll see it's
So it looks more like you'll see it's it's a bike with somebody riding doing
it's a bike with somebody riding doing like a a you know a side thing. It
like a a you know a side thing. It wasn't here. It wasn't the turbo. But
wasn't here. It wasn't the turbo. But the only one that really notices it is
the only one that really notices it is Eddie. Eddie [laughter] King noticed it
Eddie. Eddie [laughter] King noticed it right away and he's like are you going
right away and he's like are you going to change that?
to change that? Are you serious right now? Cuz with
Are you serious right now? Cuz with these pavers, you have to have your
these pavers, you have to have your order in by October 16th.
order in by October 16th. >> Oh,
>> Oh, >> and
>> and >> Yes. And then they do it one time a year
>> Yes. And then they do it one time a year in March.
in March. >> They do a ceremony right at the stage.
>> They do a ceremony right at the stage. They set up chairs there and they do a
They set up chairs there and they do a ceremony there and they've all been laid
ceremony there and they've all been laid and then they take everybody down to see
and then they take everybody down to see your spot where your paver is. So they
your spot where your paver is. So they only do it once a year. So I had to get
only do it once a year. So I had to get it in in October so that they could do
it in in October so that they could do it this last March. And so that's when
it this last March. And so that's when we did Harry's funeral.
we did Harry's funeral. >> Greg and Eddie came out and Harry's
>> Greg and Eddie came out and Harry's daughter. And so they did the PA and we
daughter. And so they did the PA and we all walked down and saw the PA and then
all walked down and saw the PA and then we took a pontoon boat that was
we took a pontoon boat that was captained by a very close friend of
captained by a very close friend of mine, Pete, which was a godsend. and he
mine, Pete, which was a godsend. and he took my family and friends out down to a
took my family and friends out down to a cove called Steamboat Cove.
cove called Steamboat Cove. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> And we had a little ceremony. My
>> And we had a little ceremony. My granddaughter was there and threw rose
granddaughter was there and threw rose petals into the water.
petals into the water. >> Nice.
>> Nice. >> And we played a couple of songs. Harry's
>> And we played a couple of songs. Harry's urn was water soluble and
urn was water soluble and >> Oh,
>> Oh, >> it dropped like a rock. [laughter]
>> it dropped like a rock. [laughter] >> I mean, it's like geez, dude. You in a
>> I mean, it's like geez, dude. You in a hurry. But the paper coming up, I'll
hurry. But the paper coming up, I'll show you how they placed it. They
show you how they placed it. They decided this year to spell the word
decided this year to spell the word freedom
freedom >> and all they got done was the f re e.
>> and all they got done was the f re e. And so Harry is actually in the letter
And so Harry is actually in the letter e. So his paper was set and I thought it
e. So his paper was set and I thought it was apppropo in the word free
was apppropo in the word free >> because I I feel like my brother's free
>> because I I feel like my brother's free now.
now. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> I belong to a walking group and we walk
>> I belong to a walking group and we walk every Tuesday, Thursday. Okay. And we
every Tuesday, Thursday. Okay. And we walk this path. And so every time I walk
walk this path. And so every time I walk by coming and going, I make sure I stomp
by coming and going, I make sure I stomp his brick.
his brick. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And it's actually getting kind of funny
>> And it's actually getting kind of funny cuz now all my friends stomp him as
cuz now all my friends stomp him as well.
well. >> So, and he knows why because he's a
>> So, and he knows why because he's a dumbass and that's why I'm stomping him.
dumbass and that's why I'm stomping him. So
So >> I stomp him every time I see it.
>> I stomp him every time I see it. >> I love it.
>> I love it. >> So I would hope that you and Amarie
>> So I would hope that you and Amarie would stomp away.
would stomp away. >> Yeah. Is Yeah. Let's do it. Hold on. You
>> Yeah. Is Yeah. Let's do it. Hold on. You ready?
ready? All right. Hey, Kale. You ready? Ready.
All right. Hey, Kale. You ready? Ready. We're going to stomp.
We're going to stomp. Is that funny? Yeah. I love it. I
Is that funny? Yeah. I love it. I absolutely love it, kiddo.
absolutely love it, kiddo. Oh, man. Never in my life would I have
Oh, man. Never in my life would I have ever guessed that I'd be crossing the
ever guessed that I'd be crossing the London Bridge to stomp on Harry Larry's
London Bridge to stomp on Harry Larry's memory. Never. It's, you know.
memory. Never. It's, you know. >> Yeah. I've had people look at me, too.
>> Yeah. I've had people look at me, too. They look at me, "Why are you doing
They look at me, "Why are you doing that?" It's like I look at them and say,
that?" It's like I look at them and say, "It's my brother. I have the right Yeah.
"It's my brother. I have the right Yeah. >> It's like, don't question me. And I do
>> It's like, don't question me. And I do it every time I pass. And if I pass
it every time I pass. And if I pass without seeing it, I run back and do it.
without seeing it, I run back and do it. >> And is there a specific way that you
>> And is there a specific way that you reflect or is it kind of all over the
reflect or is it kind of all over the board when you see that pair?
board when you see that pair? The one that I really reflect on is the
The one that I really reflect on is the I did another memorial for him at a tree
I did another memorial for him at a tree on the disc golf course that is over in
on the disc golf course that is over in the island across the canal and it's in
the island across the canal and it's in a beautiful field under a big olive tree
a beautiful field under a big olive tree and I reflect there because we did place
and I reflect there because we did place some of Harry's ashes there as well.
some of Harry's ashes there as well. Okay. And so I go there a lot and talk
Okay. And so I go there a lot and talk to Harry. And so the paper I wonder
to Harry. And so the paper I wonder sometimes if I put that there for me
sometimes if I put that there for me [laughter]
[laughter] >> instead of in memory of Harry because I
>> instead of in memory of Harry because I really enjoy stomping him and my friends
really enjoy stomping him and my friends now it's become a big joke that oh you
now it's become a big joke that oh you forgot to stomp your brother
forgot to stomp your brother >> and now my friends are stomping him. So
>> and now my friends are stomping him. So it's like
it's like >> anybody that wants to go down there feel
>> anybody that wants to go down there feel free to go stomp him. I mean he would
free to go stomp him. I mean he would love it and I know he's looking down
love it and I know he's looking down just laughing going sister
just laughing going sister >> you know he always used to say that
>> you know he always used to say that sister
sister >> so yeah that's I do but I'm with people
>> so yeah that's I do but I'm with people usually when I walk by and so I try not
usually when I walk by and so I try not to get melancholy and I focus on the
to get melancholy and I focus on the beauty around me and and the fact that
beauty around me and and the fact that Harry is right along the canal that he
Harry is right along the canal that he used to go down
used to go down >> or the channel
>> or the channel >> um
>> um >> on his boat. So, it's a good spot. It
>> on his boat. So, it's a good spot. It really is. Really would like to put it
really is. Really would like to put it out there. A lot of the things that
out there. A lot of the things that people didn't know about Harry, the
people didn't know about Harry, the person, not Harry the BMXer.
person, not Harry the BMXer. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> To them, he's a legend. To me, he's my
>> To them, he's a legend. To me, he's my brother. I love deeply.
brother. I love deeply. >> Yeah. That comes through.
>> Yeah. That comes through. >> Yeah. And I miss him. It's a huge hole.
>> Yeah. And I miss him. It's a huge hole. I miss him. [crying]
I miss him. [crying] [screaming]
[screaming] >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And today has been been a hard day. It's
>> And today has been been a hard day. It's with with my daughter, but she's a big
with with my daughter, but she's a big support. So,
support. So, >> and the two of you are helping each
>> and the two of you are helping each other kind of navigate the day, emotions
other kind of navigate the day, emotions of the day.

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