Lost Fireside BMX Chat - Linda Leary Taylor shares about Harry Leary's DIRTWERX era and more

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Harry Leary's DIRTWERX BMX company was more than another sponsor or bike brand. For Harry, it was his dream. It was an opportunity to build something that carried his own name and reflected the way he believed BMX should be.

In this Fireside BMX Chat conversation, Harry's sister, Linda Leary Taylor, sits down with Kyle A. Huffman to remember that chapter of Harry's life. Together, they revisit the excitement of DIRTWERX, the family's involvement, the challenges that followed, and why those years still mean so much today.

As the conversation unfolds, an unexpected story emerges. One of Harry's original DIRTWERX bicycles traveled from Harry to Linda's son, Chaz, eventually found its way back into Linda's hands, and today is being preserved in memory in the Lititz BMX Archive and physically by Linda. Kyle also shares the discovery of an original NOS DIRTWERX frame, while Linda talks about her hope of riding Harry's original bike during Dirty Fest 4 in his memory.

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Hey, hey, hey, Linda. How are you? >> I'm good, Kyle. Good to hear from you
>> I'm good, Kyle. Good to hear from you again.
again. >> It is a pleasure. It's been way too
>> It is a pleasure. It's been way too long, and I feel like we've got a lot of
long, and I feel like we've got a lot of catching up to do. I know you've been
catching up to do. I know you've been out having some fun the last week or so
out having some fun the last week or so with Jess. Uh, and so it's been fun
with Jess. Uh, and so it's been fun watching you two have fun.
watching you two have fun. >> Oh, yeah. She's a She's a kick for sure.
>> Oh, yeah. She's a She's a kick for sure. >> She is a hoot. And I'm still working on
>> She is a hoot. And I'm still working on finishing up the clips that are on
finishing up the clips that are on YouTube. I'm not sure if you've seen any
YouTube. I'm not sure if you've seen any of those, but they've been fun to make.
of those, but they've been fun to make. And I've still got quite a few left from
And I've still got quite a few left from her and my podcast to go. So
her and my podcast to go. So >> Oh, no. I have not. I've got to I've got
>> Oh, no. I have not. I've got to I've got to get back in the swing of things.
to get back in the swing of things. >> There you go. Check out the channel. But
>> There you go. Check out the channel. But a couple of fun updates. Uh and I feel
a couple of fun updates. Uh and I feel like I feel like I'm gonna forget
like I feel like I'm gonna forget something here. So, oh, so that picture
something here. So, oh, so that picture I sent you via text, how cool is that?
I sent you via text, how cool is that? That is that I'm I am pretty sure that
That is that I'm I am pretty sure that is the frame that I have. That Dirt
is the frame that I have. That Dirt Works prototype frame that's in that
Works prototype frame that's in that picture. I'm pretty sure of that.
picture. I'm pretty sure of that. >> Where did you find that picture?
>> Where did you find that picture? >> I found it a long long time ago. I I
>> I found it a long long time ago. I I think it was before even lit its BMX
think it was before even lit its BMX came about when we were early on in the
came about when we were early on in the kind of the Harry Ly uh fireside chat
kind of the Harry Ly uh fireside chat groups the on Facebook. But I noticed it
groups the on Facebook. But I noticed it and I noticed I've noticed the picture
and I noticed I've noticed the picture before is because I matched the jersey
before is because I matched the jersey to that picture at one point
to that picture at one point and
and >> Oh
>> Oh >> yeah. And
>> yeah. And shortly thereafter,
shortly thereafter, I donated the jersey to uh Carlo Lucia
I donated the jersey to uh Carlo Lucia had some medical issues and there were
had some medical issues and there were they they were raising some money for
they they were raising some money for him. Justin Dumas of Boss BMX. They uh
him. Justin Dumas of Boss BMX. They uh they were raising some some money did
they were raising some some money did auction for him and that was donated.
auction for him and that was donated. And the significance behind that is is
And the significance behind that is is really the motivating factor is boss BMX
really the motivating factor is boss BMX but specifically Livermore Boss was
but specifically Livermore Boss was responsible for the production of dirt
responsible for the production of dirt work frames for Harry Liry.
work frames for Harry Liry. >> Really?
>> Really? >> Yes. So, the jersey that I had of your
>> Yes. So, the jersey that I had of your brothers, right, a Bob jersey, it did
brothers, right, a Bob jersey, it did go, it did get sold and it did get uh
go, it did get sold and it did get uh sold for a good cause as far as I'm
sold for a good cause as far as I'm concerned, which once again coming
concerned, which once again coming around full circle, right? Everything
around full circle, right? Everything gets a return back to the boss family
gets a return back to the boss family that made the frames for Harry.
that made the frames for Harry. >> That is actually a really cool story.
>> That is actually a really cool story. >> It is. Now, the story gets better.
>> It is. Now, the story gets better. >> Whoa.
>> Whoa. Yeah, because I don't think I told you
Yeah, because I don't think I told you this part yet.
this part yet. Um,
Um, >> let's
>> let's >> There you go. I love it. Let's do it.
>> There you go. I love it. Let's do it. >> No, I was gonna say let's let's hear it.
>> No, I was gonna say let's let's hear it. >> All right. So, there's actually there's
>> All right. So, there's actually there's a side component, but this happened
a side component, but this happened today like
today like an hour and a half ago. Okay.
an hour and a half ago. Okay. So Justin Dumas uh from uh Livermore
So Justin Dumas uh from uh Livermore Boss and as I said they made the dirt
Boss and as I said they made the dirt works frames. Now
works frames. Now now Justin recently reached out to me
now Justin recently reached out to me like an hour and a half ago and I knew
like an hour and a half ago and I knew he had an NOS Dirt Works frame
he had an NOS Dirt Works frame cuz he told me some VI may be looking to
cuz he told me some VI may be looking to get rid of it. Really?
get rid of it. Really? >> He did. And today was that Sunday.
>> He did. And today was that Sunday. >> Whoa.
>> Whoa. >> So, what what exactly took place?
>> So, what what exactly took place? >> So, he reached out and said, "Hey, I'm I
>> So, he reached out and said, "Hey, I'm I I I told you a while back that I would,
I I told you a while back that I would, you know, I'm interested in selling this
you know, I'm interested in selling this to you. I am interested in uh unloading
to you. I am interested in uh unloading a couple of things." apparently he's got
a couple of things." apparently he's got a lot of inventory uh as I can imagine
a lot of inventory uh as I can imagine and one of those was the frame and he
and one of those was the frame and he said and he was like basically hey
said and he was like basically hey before I put it on the open market are
before I put it on the open market are you interested in it and I right now I'm
you interested in it and I right now I'm like I don't I can't afford it right now
like I don't I can't afford it right now but I you know I I can't afford not to.
but I you know I I can't afford not to. So we'll we'll go for it and I'll figure
So we'll we'll go for it and I'll figure the money out now. I'm going to start
the money out now. I'm going to start doing fundraisers at this point. Um, but
doing fundraisers at this point. Um, but uh I I I thought about it for like a
uh I I I thought about it for like a quarter of a second and I said, "I can't
quarter of a second and I said, "I can't do cash right now, but if you could take
do cash right now, but if you could take a card and he's like, "Let's make it
a card and he's like, "Let's make it happen." So, um, so we just made the
happen." So, um, so we just made the transaction happen. He should be
transaction happen. He should be shipping it soon.
shipping it soon. >> Oh my gosh. So, what frame is it?
>> Oh my gosh. So, what frame is it? >> It's tw It's a It's a It's an NOS
>> It's tw It's a It's a It's an NOS uh Chrome Dirt Works frame. I'm not sure
uh Chrome Dirt Works frame. I'm not sure of the serial number. I'll find out when
of the serial number. I'll find out when I get here. I'm not going to bug him for
I get here. I'm not going to bug him for it. But yeah, it's it, you know, never
it. But yeah, it's it, you know, never never been ridden, never been mounted,
never been ridden, never been mounted, nothing. So, it's it's it's a clean
nothing. So, it's it's it's a clean bike. He showed me a long time ago, and
bike. He showed me a long time ago, and I didn't even have to ask for an updated
I didn't even have to ask for an updated picture. You know, I trust him so much
picture. You know, I trust him so much and and I remember it being so clean
and and I remember it being so clean back in the day. So, yeah, that was
back in the day. So, yeah, that was that's that's that's really fun to kind
that's that's that's really fun to kind of bring on board. So now I noticed that
of bring on board. So now I noticed that picture yesterday and then Justin
picture yesterday and then Justin reaches out today and I'm like, man, God
reaches out today and I'm like, man, God works in mysterious ways, right?
works in mysterious ways, right? >> That is so cool.
>> That is so cool. >> It is. Yeah. So,
>> It is. Yeah. So, >> and this particular bike has never been
>> and this particular bike has never been sold to anybody that it's just been it's
sold to anybody that it's just been it's just inventory.
just inventory. >> Uh well, he it was I I'm not sure the
>> Uh well, he it was I I'm not sure the back story. He it was sold at one point
back story. He it was sold at one point or it was given. I don't know. But it
or it was given. I don't know. But it was never sold in a shop. It was never
was never sold in a shop. It was never mounted, you know, nothing was ever
mounted, you know, nothing was ever mounted onto it. And um they uh it it's
mounted onto it. And um they uh it it's it's basically it's bone stock. It's
it's basically it's bone stock. It's never been touched. Um so yeah, it's
never been touched. Um so yeah, it's it's pretty much pretty much there.
it's pretty much pretty much there. >> So what other inventory curiously does
>> So what other inventory curiously does you have?
you have? >> Um so I'm trying to get that jersey. Uh,
>> Um so I'm trying to get that jersey. Uh, so I gave him a jersey because I wanted
so I gave him a jersey because I wanted that jersey matched with the bike when I
that jersey matched with the bike when I made the donation to Carlo. Uh, I'm
made the donation to Carlo. Uh, I'm trying to get the jersey back. He's not
trying to get the jersey back. He's not necessarily ready to get rid of it, but
necessarily ready to get rid of it, but he says as soon as he is, it's mine,
he says as soon as he is, it's mine, right? So, I do know that, but I don't
right? So, I do know that, but I don't know if he has anything else dirt works.
know if he has anything else dirt works. I'm sure he's got I know he's got boss,
I'm sure he's got I know he's got boss, he's got quicks. I I can only imagine
he's got quicks. I I can only imagine what he has in inventory and what he's
what he has in inventory and what he's going to start unloading.
going to start unloading. Um, so that it's a very I think in the
Um, so that it's a very I think in the boss world right now there's going to be
boss world right now there's going to be a lot of happy people if they have
a lot of happy people if they have pockets, right?
pockets, right? >> Wow. Yeah. Got it.
>> Wow. Yeah. Got it. >> Yeah. And but so which leads me to a
>> Yeah. And but so which leads me to a curiosity, right? Do you mind if I
curiosity, right? Do you mind if I inquire what you kind of remember about
inquire what you kind of remember about the Dirt Works era? how it came to be,
the Dirt Works era? how it came to be, how Harry, you know, did with it kind of
how Harry, you know, did with it kind of where what are your what can you share
where what are your what can you share about what you remember from that era,
about what you remember from that era, the dirt Harry Larry dirt works era?
the dirt Harry Larry dirt works era? >> Okay. I It's vague.
>> Okay. I It's vague. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> Because again, that was during
>> Because again, that was during >> I think Harry started it after Diamond
>> I think Harry started it after Diamond Back.
Back. >> It was so he was after Balance. So
>> It was so he was after Balance. So balance he was 9394 he won the vet pro
balance he was 9394 he won the vet pro titles on and he started it at late 94 I
titles on and he started it at late 94 I believe and it lasted I'm I'm going to
believe and it lasted I'm I'm going to guess two years is my understanding I
guess two years is my understanding I could be very wrong on that but the 93
could be very wrong on that but the 93 94 95 time frame I'm spot on.
94 95 time frame I'm spot on. >> Okay. Um, what I recall was Harry
>> Okay. Um, what I recall was Harry trying to get donations from people so
trying to get donations from people so that he could start his own company.
that he could start his own company. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> And my mom
>> And my mom >> actually donated $10,000 towards his
>> actually donated $10,000 towards his company.
company. >> Oh, wow.
>> Oh, wow. >> To start building bikes.
>> To start building bikes. >> Wow.
>> Wow. >> So, that honestly is all I know about
>> So, that honestly is all I know about it. You know, I don't really recall when
it. You know, I don't really recall when uh bikes started coming out in
uh bikes started coming out in production
production and I, you know, like I said, I do know
and I, you know, like I said, I do know that he had them
that he had them >> and it was after, you know, the dirt
>> and it was after, you know, the dirt works kind of went by the wayside that
works kind of went by the wayside that he gave his bike to my son Chaz.
he gave his bike to my son Chaz. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> So, that's about all I know. I wish I
>> So, that's about all I know. I wish I could be more knowledgeable on it, but
could be more knowledgeable on it, but >> No, no worries. But you kind of answered
>> No, no worries. But you kind of answered a question without me having to ask it
a question without me having to ask it because and I already knew the answer. I
because and I already knew the answer. I just it didn't hit me for some reason.
just it didn't hit me for some reason. Um because I was gonna inquire in the
Um because I was gonna inquire in the status of kind of your guy's
status of kind of your guy's relationship as you know brother and
relationship as you know brother and sister etc etc. How was how was how do
sister etc etc. How was how was how do you remember him personally being
you remember him personally being affected maybe by the the company or
affected maybe by the the company or just him personally personally around
just him personally personally around 9596 94 95 96
9596 94 95 96 >> oh his his dirt works bike
>> oh his his dirt works bike >> no not just the dirt works like just
>> no not just the dirt works like just tell me about Harry around that time
tell me about Harry around that time frame like who was Harry in in ' 94 9596
frame like who was Harry in in ' 94 9596 that you remember him as any fun stories
that you remember him as any fun stories >> oh my goodness
>> oh my goodness >> it's been a little bit
>> it's been a little bit >> yeah it's been a lot of
>> yeah it's been a lot of I had kids in between that time and so I
I had kids in between that time and so I was completely
was completely focused on children.
focused on children. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> Um, so again, Harry and I didn't see a
>> Um, so again, Harry and I didn't see a whole lot of each other back then.
whole lot of each other back then. >> Makes sense.
>> Makes sense. >> Um, so, you know, like I said, that
>> Um, so, you know, like I said, that there's a certain part of Harry's life
there's a certain part of Harry's life that I wasn't really involved with.
that I wasn't really involved with. Yeah.
Yeah. >> And that probably had to be about that
>> And that probably had to be about that time span because Jessica was born in
time span because Jessica was born in 93. Cal was born in 89.
93. Cal was born in 89. Um,
Um, so yeah,
so yeah, >> that makes sense.
>> that makes sense. >> Okay. All right. That actually it
>> Okay. All right. That actually it actually makes a lot of sense.
actually makes a lot of sense. >> Yeah. you know, and so it's it's yeah,
>> Yeah. you know, and so it's it's yeah, guy wasn't really involved in in his
guy wasn't really involved in in his biking at that time, but I do remember
biking at that time, but I do remember and this was after that
and this was after that >> I think he also got money from um Elisa,
>> I think he also got money from um Elisa, his wife.
his wife. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> Possibly her parents.
>> Possibly her parents. >> And that is speculation as well.
>> And that is speculation as well. >> Sure. Sure.
>> Sure. Sure. >> As far as how much money he ended up,
>> As far as how much money he ended up, you know, putting into the company, you
you know, putting into the company, you know, I don't know. I just know for a
know, I don't know. I just know for a fact my mom gave him 10,000.
fact my mom gave him 10,000. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> And then Harry was not a good manager of
>> And then Harry was not a good manager of money and I don't believe he managed the
money and I don't believe he managed the company like it should have been. I
company like it should have been. I don't know who the shareholders were, if
don't know who the shareholders were, if there was anybody else involved,
there was anybody else involved, >> or what happened,
>> or what happened, >> but I remember
>> but I remember that it just didn't go anywhere.
that it just didn't go anywhere. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And you know, my my mother was
>> And you know, my my mother was disappointed um and um Alisa and Harry
disappointed um and um Alisa and Harry divorced and she wanted her money back
divorced and she wanted her money back that she put into the company. Yeah.
that she put into the company. Yeah. >> So, it was just it might have been at a
>> So, it was just it might have been at a bad time in Harry's life.
bad time in Harry's life. >> Sure. Um because he had a baby during
>> Sure. Um because he had a baby during that time as well.
that time as well. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And then his marriage to Lisa fell
>> And then his marriage to Lisa fell apart.
apart. >> So,
>> So, you know, I hate to speculate on it as
you know, I hate to speculate on it as to what went on.
to what went on. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And you and I have touched on that
>> And you and I have touched on that several times and I I I believe that
several times and I I I believe that that's
that's >> probably all of it.
>> probably all of it. >> Yeah, that makes sense. That makes total
>> Yeah, that makes sense. That makes total sense. Um,
sense. Um, so I guess I guess to kind of make this
so I guess I guess to kind of make this come back full circle of something we've
come back full circle of something we've talked about a little bit of um, uh,
talked about a little bit of um, uh, already is Chaz's bike, your bike.
already is Chaz's bike, your bike. >> Yes. And the one that you so kindly gave
>> Yes. And the one that you so kindly gave to me, which I will forever be grateful.
to me, which I will forever be grateful. >> My honor, Linda. Um, but we never really
>> My honor, Linda. Um, but we never really talked about how it how the restore
talked about how it how the restore happened. So I'm curious. So I the
happened. So I'm curious. So I the second it left me, it went through bike
second it left me, it went through bike flights. It got to you. What happened
flights. It got to you. What happened after that?
after that? >> What's after it got to me?
>> What's after it got to me? >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> I I unpacked it.
>> I I unpacked it. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. >> And of course the person the one person
>> And of course the person the one person that I would have only ever trusted to
that I would have only ever trusted to put something like that together, my
put something like that together, my brother was no longer with me. So
brother was no longer with me. So >> I had met Rob at the U-Haul uh facility
>> I had met Rob at the U-Haul uh facility there in Habisu.
there in Habisu. >> Okay. And um I went by there and I said,
>> Okay. And um I went by there and I said, "Look, you guys, I got this bike, Larry
"Look, you guys, I got this bike, Larry Dirt Works, because they're fans,
Dirt Works, because they're fans, >> big fans,
>> big fans, >> and they took the bike from me and all
>> and they took the bike from me and all the parts and they put it all together
the parts and they put it all together for me."
for me." >> Oh my gosh. And it turned out so great.
>> Oh my gosh. And it turned out so great. >> It turned out amazing. It It turned out
>> It turned out amazing. It It turned out really, really well.
really, really well. >> That is awesome. And you said the guy's
>> That is awesome. And you said the guy's name is Rob. Rob from U-Haul in Lake
name is Rob. Rob from U-Haul in Lake Avis. In Lake Au City.
Avis. In Lake Au City. >> Yes. Yes. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah.
>> Yes. Yes. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. >> So, great job, Rob.
>> So, great job, Rob. >> Yep. And he's a really cool guy. He
>> Yep. And he's a really cool guy. He collects uh memorabilia.
collects uh memorabilia. >> Nice.
>> Nice. >> And he's got his own bikes in there and
>> And he's got his own bikes in there and I go in there and drool and
I go in there and drool and >> I haven't seen them. I haven't been I
>> I haven't seen them. I haven't been I need to go bug them this week. I go and
need to go bug them this week. I go and say, "Hey,
say, "Hey, >> so yeah, they put it together." Nice.
>> so yeah, they put it together." Nice. >> And it took, you know, it took a couple
>> And it took, you know, it took a couple weeks because they they were very
weeks because they they were very thorough with it. The one problem that
thorough with it. The one problem that they did have
they did have >> was the the seat stem is was completely
>> was the the seat stem is was completely frozen.
frozen. >> Oh.
>> Oh. >> So there was no way that they could
>> So there was no way that they could raise it or lower it.
raise it or lower it. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And so
>> And so >> Oh, I knew that. I forgot about that.
>> Oh, I knew that. I forgot about that. >> Yeah. Without cutting into the bike
>> Yeah. Without cutting into the bike itself. So
itself. So >> it is where it's at.
>> it is where it's at. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Um
>> Um >> but I said I'm glad you didn't cut it
>> but I said I'm glad you didn't cut it cuz I wanted it cut. No. But they put it
cuz I wanted it cut. No. But they put it together and it is left
together and it is left >> as it was when Chaz had it.
>> as it was when Chaz had it. >> I love it. That is such a beautiful
>> I love it. That is such a beautiful bike. And it's even got those those Greg
bike. And it's even got those those Greg Hill. I'm blanking on the name of the
Hill. I'm blanking on the name of the company at the time, but the the
company at the time, but the the Priarzoi forks on it, which are really
Priarzoi forks on it, which are really cool. If you look on the bottom side of
cool. If you look on the bottom side of it, you'll see those peace signs. I'm
it, you'll see those peace signs. I'm not sure if you've ever noticed that.
not sure if you've ever noticed that. >> No, I haven't. I'll have to take a peek.
>> No, I haven't. I'll have to take a peek. >> Yeah. So, there's little pea signs on
>> Yeah. So, there's little pea signs on the bottom of those forks. or otherwise
the bottom of those forks. or otherwise hollow. That was You can tell that those
hollow. That was You can tell that those are the first run for those forks that
are the first run for those forks that Greg Hill ran.
Greg Hill ran. >> Oh, that is really interesting.
>> Oh, that is really interesting. >> Yeah, it added a fun little piece to the
>> Yeah, it added a fun little piece to the puzzle there. Um,
puzzle there. Um, >> yeah, definitely.
>> yeah, definitely. >> Yeah, but Oh, go ahead.
>> Yeah, but Oh, go ahead. >> The seat. You remember the condition of
>> The seat. You remember the condition of the seat?
the seat? >> I do remember the condition of the seat.
>> I do remember the condition of the seat. >> Okay. He wanted to uh resurface it. I
>> Okay. He wanted to uh resurface it. I said, "Oh, no,
said, "Oh, no, >> no, no, no.
>> no, no, no. as it is. So, what he ended up doing
as it is. So, what he ended up doing >> and it turned out so cool is he painted
>> and it turned out so cool is he painted it.
it. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> He painted it with some kind of paint
>> He painted it with some kind of paint and it turned out beautiful.
and it turned out beautiful. >> You know what's what's great is we both
>> You know what's what's great is we both had the same idea because I put a a
had the same idea because I put a a whole spray can uh back when before, you
whole spray can uh back when before, you know, I was like, "Oh, I'm giving
know, I was like, "Oh, I'm giving Linda." Uh I put a whole spray can of
Linda." Uh I put a whole spray can of clear mat onto the top surface of that
clear mat onto the top surface of that seat after cleaning it. So, I cleaned
seat after cleaning it. So, I cleaned it. I cleaned it uh as best and not
it. I cleaned it uh as best and not destructive as possible and then spray
destructive as possible and then spray sealed on top of it. So, it's got an
sealed on top of it. So, it's got an even greater seal now. So, wonderful.
even greater seal now. So, wonderful. >> Yeah. Well, I'll tell you, it still is
>> Yeah. Well, I'll tell you, it still is hard as hell.
hard as hell. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Is one of the most uncomfortable things
>> Is one of the most uncomfortable things to sit on, but it will forever be on
to sit on, but it will forever be on that bike because I can't get it off.
that bike because I can't get it off. >> I love it. Well, you just need to get a
>> I love it. Well, you just need to get a bigger butt.
bigger butt. >> H Yeah. Well, no, we don't want that.
Uh but but that's not the sitting in your house is not the end of the road
your house is not the end of the road for that bike. You uh you've got great
for that bike. You uh you've got great plans for the future. What what's kind
plans for the future. What what's kind of running through your noggin here?
of running through your noggin here? >> What's running through my noggin? And
>> What's running through my noggin? And but that strictly depends on my knee and
but that strictly depends on my knee and >> Oh, that's right. Yeah.
>> Oh, that's right. Yeah. >> I think I will need knee surgery, but
>> I think I will need knee surgery, but >> I plan on taking that dirt works to
>> I plan on taking that dirt works to Dirty Fest 4 and doing a lap on that
Dirty Fest 4 and doing a lap on that truck.
truck. >> I love it.
>> I love it. >> Yeah. That is, I believe, would be the
>> Yeah. That is, I believe, would be the coolest thing. Mary Larry's sister
coolest thing. Mary Larry's sister riding his dirt works bike that used to
riding his dirt works bike that used to belong to my son that was given to my
belong to my son that was given to my son by Harry.
son by Harry. >> And Chaz, my son, raced that bike at
>> And Chaz, my son, raced that bike at Harry's track in uh Ontario, I believe,
Harry's track in uh Ontario, I believe, or uh
or uh somewhere Ontario. I think it was
somewhere Ontario. I think it was Ontario.
Ontario. >> Yeah, I love it.
>> Yeah, I love it. >> And um yeah, it was pretty cool,
>> And um yeah, it was pretty cool, >> Linda. That's that's wonderful. And then
>> Linda. That's that's wonderful. And then Chaz forgot about it and it hung up in
Chaz forgot about it and it hung up in my garage for many years. Many, many
my garage for many years. Many, many years. And we were moving and I had that
years. And we were moving and I had that bike and then I had this cute little old
bike and then I had this cute little old >> mini GT bike which I wish I I had back
>> mini GT bike which I wish I I had back cuz it was it was vintage. And I gave
cuz it was it was vintage. And I gave that back to Harry. Oh yeah.
that back to Harry. Oh yeah. >> And then I said, "Well, do you do you
>> And then I said, "Well, do you do you want your dirt works back?" And
want your dirt works back?" And honestly,
honestly, >> he was not all that thrilled about
>> he was not all that thrilled about taking it. He goes, "Yeah, I guess I'll
taking it. He goes, "Yeah, I guess I'll take it." And I know it sat out for a
take it." And I know it sat out for a long time cuz he just didn't do anything
long time cuz he just didn't do anything with it.
with it. >> I believe it sat out in his yard for a
>> I believe it sat out in his yard for a while.
while. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Um
>> Um >> there was some rust. I cleaned a good
>> there was some rust. I cleaned a good amount of rust off that thing and I I
amount of rust off that thing and I I Oh, hold on. Sorry. I'll let you
Oh, hold on. Sorry. I'll let you continue and then let's come back to
continue and then let's come back to rust for a second. Go ahead.
rust for a second. Go ahead. >> Okay. Let's go back to rust.
>> Okay. Let's go back to rust. >> Oh, sorry.
>> Oh, sorry. >> Anyway, yeah,
>> Anyway, yeah, >> it's it's okay. It sat out there in his
>> it's it's okay. It sat out there in his yard. that and the GT. I don't I really
yard. that and the GT. I don't I really don't know what he ever did with the GT,
don't know what he ever did with the GT, >> but it it rusted with the wheels and
>> but it it rusted with the wheels and everything on it. Yes.
everything on it. Yes. >> And so when you bought it, did you get
>> And so when you bought it, did you get the wheels and everything together?
the wheels and everything together? >> Everything. It was It was complete. 100%
>> Everything. It was It was complete. 100% complete.
complete. >> That was definitely Chaz's. Yes.
>> That was definitely Chaz's. Yes. >> Yeah, it was. And um the
>> Yeah, it was. And um the So I only really just worked on cleaning
So I only really just worked on cleaning that up. That was always just a cleanup
that up. That was always just a cleanup job in my opinion.
job in my opinion. Um, you know, and I for about a half a
Um, you know, and I for about a half a second I thought about like sending it
second I thought about like sending it to C4 and then I realized, do you
to C4 and then I realized, do you realize what this bike is, Kyle? You're
realize what this bike is, Kyle? You're not touching a damn thing. And
not touching a damn thing. And >> no, I am so glad.
>> no, I am so glad. >> Yeah, me too.
>> Yeah, me too. >> And I want to know.
>> And I want to know. >> Sorry. Go ahead.
>> Sorry. Go ahead. >> I want to go back and see if I can find
>> I want to go back and see if I can find pictures of my son riding.
pictures of my son riding. >> Oh my goodness, that would be great.
>> Oh my goodness, that would be great. Oh,
Oh, >> but back then we didn't have digital
>> but back then we didn't have digital >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> phones.
>> phones. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> God, I'm old.
>> God, I'm old. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> So are my kids. They're getting old.
>> So are my kids. They're getting old. That was 30 years ago.
That was 30 years ago. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was 30 years ago.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was 30 years ago. That's I I mean, I graduated high school
That's I I mean, I graduated high school in 97. So that's my 30 years coming up.
in 97. So that's my 30 years coming up. >> Okay. Well, I graduated from high school
>> Okay. Well, I graduated from high school in 79. So
in 79. So >> Oh, I know. That's the year I was born.
>> Oh, I know. That's the year I was born. Uh
Uh >> yeah, we know all
>> yeah, we know all know about that, too.
know about that, too. >> Yeah, but you look, you know, you look
>> Yeah, but you look, you know, you look better than me, so we're good.
better than me, so we're good. >> I'm old enough to be your mother. You
>> I'm old enough to be your mother. You can be my son.
can be my son. >> That's very true.
>> That's very true. >> Be my son.
>> Be my son. >> That is very true.
>> That is very true. >> Oh,
>> Oh, >> now I really feel old,
>> now I really feel old, >> man. Just wait. I remember the first
>> man. Just wait. I remember the first time like I was talking to somebody.
time like I was talking to somebody. They were like, I joined the military.
They were like, I joined the military. I'm like, wait a second, when were you
I'm like, wait a second, when were you born? It was like 2001. And I was like,
born? It was like 2001. And I was like, what? Oh my god, no. Uh
what? Oh my god, no. Uh >> yeah,
>> yeah, >> but I just I try not to think about it.
>> but I just I try not to think about it. >> Yeah. Yeah. Um you know, it's the
>> Yeah. Yeah. Um you know, it's the journey. We're having a good journey.
journey. We're having a good journey. >> We are. I'm having a really good
>> We are. I'm having a really good journey. There was a lot of ups and
journey. There was a lot of ups and downs and as you know, most people go
downs and as you know, most people go through.
through. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And you know, I've shared my story a
>> And you know, I've shared my story a little bit with you.
little bit with you. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Um you know, Harry had his ups and downs
>> Um you know, Harry had his ups and downs and
and >> you know, we we all came back around.
>> you know, we we all came back around. >> So, it's all good. And now the bike is
>> So, it's all good. And now the bike is back where it belongs.
back where it belongs. >> Woo! Woo!
>> Woo! Woo! >> And it has not changed. I kept it
>> And it has not changed. I kept it original and it's going to be original
original and it's going to be original when it goes to Dirty Fest.
when it goes to Dirty Fest. >> I love it. And so speaking of Dirty
>> I love it. And so speaking of Dirty Fest, us being old,
Fest, us being old, right?
right? >> We said coming back to Rust,
>> We said coming back to Rust, right?
right? >> Oh,
>> Oh, >> yes. Bring it back full circle. Um,
>> yes. Bring it back full circle. Um, so when I first got that frame, I bought
so when I first got that frame, I bought that frame. That was not from Bob,
that frame. That was not from Bob, right? That came from uh uh I think it
right? That came from uh uh I think it was like a Lamborghini shop in Texas or
was like a Lamborghini shop in Texas or something from the BMX museum.
something from the BMX museum. Um, and no, hold on. I'm totally
Um, and no, hold on. I'm totally thinking of the wrong bike. Uh, sorry, I
thinking of the wrong bike. Uh, sorry, I switched dirt works bikes. Um, no, the
switched dirt works bikes. Um, no, the dirt on that on the on your dirt works,
dirt on that on the on your dirt works, Harry's dirt works. Um, when I first got
Harry's dirt works. Um, when I first got that and I started cleaning, I was
that and I started cleaning, I was looking at this going, "Oh my god, what
looking at this going, "Oh my god, what did I get myself into?" Right, as a
did I get myself into?" Right, as a cleanup job. And I thought most of the
cleanup job. And I thought most of the stuff on everything that I saw was all
stuff on everything that I saw was all rust. And it looked like there was a
rust. And it looked like there was a hell of a lot of rust.
hell of a lot of rust. What it mostly turned out to be was just
What it mostly turned out to be was just caked on dirt. Real fine, dark caked on
caked on dirt. Real fine, dark caked on dirt.
dirt. And
And >> that's my son never cleaned his bike and
>> that's my son never cleaned his bike and never cleaned them.
never cleaned them. >> So that was what I was scared was going
>> So that was what I was scared was going to be rust ended up uh turning, you
to be rust ended up uh turning, you know, ended up being just dirt. And so a
know, ended up being just dirt. And so a lot of that concern uh turned into joy
lot of that concern uh turned into joy as I was cleaning it. And but I guess
as I was cleaning it. And but I guess what's funny is I'll have to show you
what's funny is I'll have to show you pictures of the freewheel. Um I clean
pictures of the freewheel. Um I clean the living daylights out of that. But oh
the living daylights out of that. But oh that's right. You know what I forgot?
that's right. You know what I forgot? Uh, I did a campaign on Facebook for
Uh, I did a campaign on Facebook for that for that bike and it was the
that for that bike and it was the operation dirt. It was operation dirt
operation dirt. It was operation dirt works. So, if you want to see kind of
works. So, if you want to see kind of where I started and kind of some of the
where I started and kind of some of the build process I went through at the time
build process I went through at the time before I sent it to you. It you could
before I sent it to you. It you could just search for that that open
just search for that that open hashtagation.
hashtagation. >> I would love that.
>> I would love that. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Do me a favor. Text it to me because
>> Do me a favor. Text it to me because remember you know
remember you know >> how do I text?
>> how do I text? Oh,
Oh, >> but I love the thought that it was all
>> but I love the thought that it was all dirt cuz,
dirt cuz, >> you know, Harry kept his bike spotless.
>> you know, Harry kept his bike spotless. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. >> That dirt came when Chaz had it.
>> That dirt came when Chaz had it. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And he he just didn't take care of it.
>> And he he just didn't take care of it. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> You know, I remember him get pissed off
>> You know, I remember him get pissed off at it. He used to jump that bike because
at it. He used to jump that bike because Chaz used to dig these big jumps in our
Chaz used to dig these big jumps in our yard. Oh.
yard. Oh. >> And it was that bike that he used to
>> And it was that bike that he used to jump all the time. And I remember him
jump all the time. And I remember him coming off of that bike and picking it
coming off of that bike and picking it up and throwing it.
up and throwing it. >> He was a lot like his uncle in that
>> He was a lot like his uncle in that respect.
respect. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> So, you know, that poor bike. I don't
>> So, you know, that poor bike. I don't know if the pedals were bent or the rims
know if the pedals were bent or the rims were bent, but if they were, I think
were bent, but if they were, I think that's where that came from.
that's where that came from. >> Ah, that's great. Well, they weren't.
>> Ah, that's great. Well, they weren't. Uh, not the ones that I have. But, you
Uh, not the ones that I have. But, you know what's funny is I posed a question
know what's funny is I posed a question out to the the BMX community at some
out to the the BMX community at some point about the pedals on that bike,
point about the pedals on that bike, right?
right? and all of the the collectors, the the
and all of the the collectors, the the the collector industry, whatever. Um,
the collector industry, whatever. Um, I said, "What are the pedals of a
I said, "What are the pedals of a champion?" And I put the pedals of
champion?" And I put the pedals of Harry's bike next to the pedals of like
Harry's bike next to the pedals of like my one of my quote unquote really nice
my one of my quote unquote really nice bikes. And everybody every single one of
bikes. And everybody every single one of them got the answer wrong.
them got the answer wrong. >> Really?
>> Really? >> Yeah. Because what is what did Jesus
>> Yeah. Because what is what did Jesus I hate to say it like this. What did
I hate to say it like this. What did Jesus chalice look like right when when
Jesus chalice look like right when when Indiana Jones went to go pick up
Indiana Jones went to go pick up >> the cups to drink from?
>> the cups to drink from? >> What did it look like?
>> What did it look like? >> Something that was torn up.
>> Something that was torn up. >> That's right.
>> That's right. So, yep.
So, yep. >> But everybody everybody said it the
>> But everybody everybody said it the champion pedals and said, "No, those
champion pedals and said, "No, those pedals those pedals you see there on the
pedals those pedals you see there on the left, those are basically the pedals of
left, those are basically the pedals of the guy that won the freaking, you know,
the guy that won the freaking, you know, the title championship, you know, the
the title championship, you know, the title trophy the year before. So, that's
title trophy the year before. So, that's that. It's just funny to see the
that. It's just funny to see the difference.
difference. >> See, I need to see that. I see that.
>> See, I need to see that. I see that. >> Yeah, it's fun.
>> Yeah, it's fun. >> I would love to see the beginnings of
>> I would love to see the beginnings of that fight."
that fight." >> Absolutely. I'll get that over to you
>> Absolutely. I'll get that over to you >> because I remember when Greg Matus came
>> because I remember when Greg Matus came out for Harry's memorial.
out for Harry's memorial. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> He had said that he was picking a bike
>> He had said that he was picking a bike up.
up. >> That's right.
>> That's right. >> Some guy.
>> Some guy. >> That's right.
>> That's right. >> Not knowing it was you.
>> Not knowing it was you. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And and then he also said he goes, "And
>> And and then he also said he goes, "And make sure you bring a black Sharpie
make sure you bring a black Sharpie because he wanted you to sign it." And
because he wanted you to sign it." And I'm like, "Well, that's me to sign this
I'm like, "Well, that's me to sign this bike."
bike." >> Yeah. And he wants you to sign it cuz
>> Yeah. And he wants you to sign it cuz you're Harry's sister. I thought, "Right
you're Harry's sister. I thought, "Right on. That's cool.
on. That's cool. >> I don't like you.
>> I don't like you. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> So then when we got we saw him the next
>> So then when we got we saw him the next day, he goes,
day, he goes, >> "It's the wrong bike, so you're not
>> "It's the wrong bike, so you're not going to be signing anything." I
going to be signing anything." I thought, "O I was kind of sad I didn't
thought, "O I was kind of sad I didn't get to sign it."
get to sign it." >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> But I didn't know it was Harry's Dirt
>> But I didn't know it was Harry's Dirt Works cuz they never mentioned it.
Works cuz they never mentioned it. >> We It threw us all off because it was
>> We It threw us all off because it was rebranded,
rebranded, >> right? That's what threw us all off is
>> right? That's what threw us all off is when we were working that deal. Well,
when we were working that deal. Well, first off, we were told it was a
first off, we were told it was a completely different bike than what was,
completely different bike than what was, you know, delivered. But side, you know,
you know, delivered. But side, you know, that's a side story. Um, yeah, we had no
that's a side story. Um, yeah, we had no earthly idea that was a Dirt Works
earthly idea that was a Dirt Works because if you look at there's not a
because if you look at there's not a single Dirt Works logo or nothing on
single Dirt Works logo or nothing on there.
there. >> Wow.
>> Wow. >> How did you figure out it was Dirt
>> How did you figure out it was Dirt Works? Uh I somebody I posted some I
Works? Uh I somebody I posted some I think I posted like uh I got this you
think I posted like uh I got this you know like basically like I got this bike
know like basically like I got this bike uh this Marzochi bike and people like no
uh this Marzochi bike and people like no they never made a marzoi so I'm like I
they never made a marzoi so I'm like I don't know and someone's like that's a
don't know and someone's like that's a dirt works. Oh okay. Um so I think
dirt works. Oh okay. Um so I think that's kind of how that went if I could
that's kind of how that went if I could be wrong but if I remember correctly
be wrong but if I remember correctly >> and then I recall you and I talking it
>> and then I recall you and I talking it was one of our first conversations.
was one of our first conversations. >> Yeah. You said that you I was telling
>> Yeah. You said that you I was telling you about Chaz having a dirt works.
you about Chaz having a dirt works. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And then you sent me that picture
>> And then you sent me that picture shortly thereafter and I went,
shortly thereafter and I went, >> "Wait, how in the world did you get that
>> "Wait, how in the world did you get that picture of my son's bike? That was so
picture of my son's bike? That was so cool." And I found out you had it.
cool." And I found out you had it. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And then you gifted it to me and it was
>> And then you gifted it to me and it was It made me cry. I had It did. It made me
It made me cry. I had It did. It made me cry.
cry. >> Yeah. No, it's It was a huge honor and I
>> Yeah. No, it's It was a huge honor and I I am grateful for the opportunity to be
I am grateful for the opportunity to be able to do that. So, I I I've received
able to do that. So, I I I've received many gifts in my life, and it's it's
many gifts in my life, and it's it's nice to be able to it was nice for me to
nice to be able to it was nice for me to be able to do something for someone
be able to do something for someone else, especially you cuz you've been
else, especially you cuz you've been you've been you're the best.
you've been you're the best. >> A I love that. But I'll tell you,
>> A I love that. But I'll tell you, >> I need to send you more pictures. I
>> I need to send you more pictures. I think I sent you pictures of me riding
think I sent you pictures of me riding it, but we should or you should. I say
it, but we should or you should. I say we, but I do mean you.
we, but I do mean you. >> Yeah. um should put a little album
>> Yeah. um should put a little album together from the beginning to the end
together from the beginning to the end and the end is gonna be Dirty Fast 4.
and the end is gonna be Dirty Fast 4. >> I love it. We'll make it happen. I will
>> I love it. We'll make it happen. I will make the video. We'll make that happen.
make the video. We'll make that happen. >> Okay. All right.
>> Okay. All right. >> That sounds really good. And I'm I may
>> That sounds really good. And I'm I may try depending on if my son is talking
try depending on if my son is talking with me yet
with me yet >> to see if if he will come out and ride
>> to see if if he will come out and ride that bike around the track. It would be
that bike around the track. It would be apppropo if he did.
apppropo if he did. >> It would. I think it would be great. So
>> It would. I think it would be great. So hopefully hopefully we you can make that
hopefully hopefully we you can make that happen.
happen. >> I'm gonna work on it.
>> I'm gonna work on it. >> There you go.
>> There you go. Well, anyways,
Well, anyways, >> I might just I might just throw Jessica
>> I might just I might just throw Jessica on it.
on it. >> Nah, she I thought she doesn't ride
>> Nah, she I thought she doesn't ride death traps anymore.
death traps anymore. >> Uh, she doesn't mind.
>> Uh, she doesn't mind. >> Okay, there you go.
>> Okay, there you go. >> Yeah. Yeah, she's she's always in for an
>> Yeah. Yeah, she's she's always in for an adventure.
adventure. >> There you go. Family rides. Who? Family
>> There you go. Family rides. Who? Family ride. Who gets the best time?
ride. Who gets the best time? >> Who gets what?
>> Who gets what? >> The best time.
>> The best time. I still I'm so sorry.
I still I'm so sorry. >> Do you take a a family race, right? Or
>> Do you take a a family race, right? Or who gets the best time?
who gets the best time? >> So, everybody everybody gets a laugh.
>> So, everybody everybody gets a laugh. Everybody.
Everybody. >> Okay. If you're talking on the bike,
>> Okay. If you're talking on the bike, >> yeah,
>> yeah, >> if running, it would definitely be Jess.
>> if running, it would definitely be Jess. On the bike,
On the bike, >> it may just be Jess.
>> it may just be Jess. >> Uh, quite poss.
She's very athletic and I mean my son is as well, but
as well, but >> he's doesn't have the cardio she has and
>> he's doesn't have the cardio she has and >> the legs she has. So, I would have to
>> the legs she has. So, I would have to say yes.
say yes. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> Definitely.
>> Definitely. >> All right. Well, hopefully Well, I I
>> All right. Well, hopefully Well, I I know we're going to see one of the three
know we're going to see one of the three of you out there and I love love love
of you out there and I love love love the concept and it is really cool.
the concept and it is really cool. >> It It is so cool. And I think what we
>> It It is so cool. And I think what we need to do and we meaning you and I this
need to do and we meaning you and I this time.
time. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Is contact I'm going to contact Greg.
>> Is contact I'm going to contact Greg. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And possibly Eddie King.
>> And possibly Eddie King. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And let him know what we're going to be
>> And let him know what we're going to be doing and hopefully we'll be able to
doing and hopefully we'll be able to hook it up with Dirty Fest 4 and maybe
hook it up with Dirty Fest 4 and maybe do something around the the history of
do something around the the history of that particular bike. It would be kind
that particular bike. It would be kind of cool.
of cool. >> It would be way awesome and I will do my
>> It would be way awesome and I will do my best to support it however I can.
best to support it however I can. All right. I love that.
All right. I love that. >> Hey, I just wanted to say thanks, Linda,
>> Hey, I just wanted to say thanks, Linda, for taking the time to jump on and kind
for taking the time to jump on and kind of listen to me ramble a little bit
of listen to me ramble a little bit about excitement I have of the new frame
about excitement I have of the new frame and learn a lot from you and just say
and learn a lot from you and just say thanks.
thanks. >> Oh, God. You're welcome. Because I'm
>> Oh, God. You're welcome. Because I'm learning as much as you
learning as much as you >> and it's just so awesome how things are
>> and it's just so awesome how things are coming full circle for both of us.
coming full circle for both of us. >> It is. It's It's really God is good.
>> It is. It's It's really God is good. That's all I can say. Yeah, it
That's all I can say. Yeah, it definitely is. And Harry brought us
definitely is. And Harry brought us together. And
together. And >> that's right.
>> that's right. >> That's it's a wonderful thing.
>> That's it's a wonderful thing. >> I love it. So,
>> I love it. So, >> well, you take care and enjoy the rest
>> well, you take care and enjoy the rest of your drive and we'll talk soon.
of your drive and we'll talk soon. >> I agree. Let's do it.
>> I agree. Let's do it. >> All right. Bye. Bye.
>> All right. Bye. Bye. >> Bye.

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