Fireside BMX Chat Ep. 1 - Damian Fulton Talks 80s Toys, BMX, + - Beachside - Audio Theater - Marvel

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2025-03-06

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Fireside BMX Chat: Episode 1 w/ Damian X Fulton - Audio Theater

In this episode, Kyle and Damian reflect on their friendship and charity work. The two are also responsible for entertaining Kyle's daughter - Anne-Marie, while enjoying a relaxing evening at the beach with the warmth of a bonfire. 

Damian also shares his insight into BMX legend Harry Leary and during this episode the dynamic duo, plus one, also discuss:

- Diamondback   - Kuwahara    - SE
- Flight Pads        - Boss BMX   - BMX Plus
- BMX HOF          - SCG Shoes  - ABA/USA BMX
- Supercross       - GT                 - Huffy 
- Mattel                - Marvel  

- Todd Lyons    - Tim Judge   - Bob Haro
- Eddie Fiola    - Greg Hill       - Tommy Brackens 
- Eddy King      - John Kerr     - Patterson Brothers
- Stu Thompson

Just press the I believe button. This isn't a studio project. 

Regardless, thank you for your time. 

Associated links can be found below:
  - Radical Rick: https://radicalrickbmx.com/
  - Damian Fulton Art: https://www.damianfultonart.com/

The secrets of the G.O.A.T may be gone but the stories can last forever. Will you join us?
Lititz BMX Presents a Special Seaside Bonfire Conversation with Damian X. Fulton:
A Personal and Insightful Discussion on BMX Legends, Damian’s Eclectic Work History, and the Future of BMX Culture in a Fireside BMX Chat (Podcast).

The conversation dives deep into Damian’s journey and touches on his association with       BMX Plus!, Masters of the Universe, Mattel, offering personal insights, and even sharing his experience positioning himself as a “hoity-toity creative director” in the world that nearly parallels the Mad Men.

Damian speaks candidly about BMX legend Harry Leary, who passed away nearly six months ago. “45 years of being woven with Harry,” Damian reflects, “I know that is a weird way of saying it, but it's what I just heard.” He goes on to share fond memories of Leary’s legendary career, remarking, “Harry was one of these mythic characters… He was on top for a long time… The guy was a winner…” -  What, 50 years? Yeah… Amazing.

Listeners will get a firsthand account of Harry’s unmatched legacy and personal anecdotes that shed light on the bond shared between the two BMX icons.

“We’re thrilled to have Damian on this podcast and share his personal perspective on BMX and his experiences with Harry Leary,” said Kyle A. Huffman, Founder at Lititz BMX. “This is a conversation that both BMX and 80’s fans won’t want to miss, filled with history, laughter, and inspiring insights.”

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hey Damen Damen over here Damen Kyle how are you I'm good man I
Damen Kyle how are you I'm good man I can't believe you found the perfect spot
can't believe you found the perfect spot thanks for getting the logs going you
thanks for getting the logs going you have the fire blazing and everything oh
have the fire blazing and everything oh you brought your daughter what's her
you brought your daughter what's her name this is Ann Marie I think it's so
name this is Ann Marie I think it's so cool that you brought her down here I
cool that you brought her down here I mean what a beautiful place it's just a
mean what a beautiful place it's just a nice little Chill Spot and I appreciate
nice little Chill Spot and I appreciate you taking a ride down you got me out of
you taking a ride down you got me out of my studio I've been painting like crazy
my studio I've been painting like crazy oh no probably notice that you can see
oh no probably notice that you can see this pain on the side of my face I mean
this pain on the side of my face I mean it gets all over I wasn't going to say
it gets all over I wasn't going to say anything to be honest with you hey
anything to be honest with you hey that's art that is true it's not an
that's art that is true it's not an accident Custom Design right there right
accident Custom Design right there right I called you down here to I know we've
I called you down here to I know we've talked a little bit about our past etc
talked a little bit about our past etc etc but you've really been there since
etc but you've really been there since the beginning of this and you took a
the beginning of this and you took a chance on I'm a big fan of practicing
chance on I'm a big fan of practicing gratitude so thank
gratitude so thank welcome so I I'm getting ready to run
welcome so I I'm getting ready to run another charity and this time it's with
another charity and this time it's with one of Harry L's really good friends
one of Harry L's really good friends from the modern
from the modern era and okay my Prime era was 87 to 93 I
era and okay my Prime era was 87 to 93 I was kind of trying to do the numbers oh
was kind of trying to do the numbers oh good good years they were fun and I I
good good years they were fun and I I was eight years old in
was eight years old in 1987 wow but we don't have insight into
1987 wow but we don't have insight into a lot of early years like you might and
a lot of early years like you might and I was hoping that maybe you can give me
I was hoping that maybe you can give me a little insight in to Harry ly it what
a little insight in to Harry ly it what you may or may not know of him so that I
you may or may not know of him so that I can better understand him to help run
can better understand him to help run this new charity
this new charity event well here's what I can tell you I
event well here's what I can tell you I was really fortunate I've been drawing
was really fortunate I've been drawing radical Rick and the
radical Rick and the magazine and occasionally different
magazine and occasionally different advertising agencies or bike companies
advertising agencies or bike companies would say Hey you know we need an
would say Hey you know we need an illustration for our ad or we need a
illustration for our ad or we need a poster for this event and this little
poster for this event and this little advertising agency in Long Beach called
advertising agency in Long Beach called me and said hey you know what would you
me and said hey you know what would you think about coming over and working with
think about coming over and working with us full-time I said I don't know
us full-time I said I don't know anything about advertising I hate ads
anything about advertising I hate ads they wreck the magazines and they said
they wreck the magazines and they said well you know you might think about it
well you know you might think about it because it actually pays bills and I was
because it actually pays bills and I was such a you know Hustler freelancing sure
such a you know Hustler freelancing sure I thought how nice that would be cuz I
I thought how nice that would be cuz I was a young parent
was a young parent sure and and so I took my first job ever
sure and and so I took my first job ever at an ad agency and one of their clients
at an ad agency and one of their clients was Diamondback oh okay and my role was
was Diamondback oh okay and my role was that Executives who would talk with
that Executives who would talk with people who ran business and then our
people who ran business and then our Executives would come in and go okay we
Executives would come in and go okay we need a really cool idea we need to do
need a really cool idea we need to do this or that help raise awareness of a
this or that help raise awareness of a bike or a product or just a brand
bike or a product or just a brand advertising for Diamond Back In general
advertising for Diamond Back In general we also had kahara we had did SE for a
we also had kahara we had did SE for a while uh we had other non-bite
while uh we had other non-bite categories but anyway so Harry I knew
categories but anyway so Harry I knew Harry I knew I got to give you full
Harry I knew I got to give you full disclosure here Kyle I might have met
disclosure here Kyle I might have met Harry two or three times and that's
Harry two or three times and that's mainly because I was in the either the
mainly because I was in the either the opposes of BMX Plus or I was at this
opposes of BMX Plus or I was at this agency and my glimpse into the world of
agency and my glimpse into the world of BMX I had ridden bikes my whole life I
BMX I had ridden bikes my whole life I love bikes I still have a ton of bikes
love bikes I still have a ton of bikes everywhere but Harry lirry was one of
everywhere but Harry lirry was one of these mythic
these mythic characters you know think about it the
characters you know think about it the career above bmxer is only about three
career above bmxer is only about three or four years sure what was great about
or four years sure what was great about Harry was he was on top for a long time
Harry was he was on top for a long time the guy was a winner and he was the face
the guy was a winner and he was the face of Diamondback so a lot of the ads we
of Diamondback so a lot of the ads we would feature him I knew Harry's
would feature him I knew Harry's reputation you know everybody wants to
reputation you know everybody wants to create a Mythic icon for their brand
create a Mythic icon for their brand yeah and obviously Stu was the guy for
yeah and obviously Stu was the guy for huffy and throughout the years Harry was
huffy and throughout the years Harry was that face and then Eddie King started
that face and then Eddie King started getting great you know was fast there's
getting great you know was fast there's different phases but sure yeah Harry was
different phases but sure yeah Harry was on top for a long time yeah I'm trying
on top for a long time yeah I'm trying to think of who else in any sport I
to think of who else in any sport I guess besides BMX would have that
guess besides BMX would have that longevity in their sport I mean what 50
longevity in their sport I mean what 50 years is amazing and I have a hard time
years is amazing and I have a hard time imagining who beats that the other thing
imagining who beats that the other thing about Harry was he was iconic in that
about Harry was he was iconic in that period so other manufacturers of
period so other manufacturers of products non-diamond back they would
products non-diamond back they would co-sponsor him and as a result Harry
co-sponsor him and as a result Harry Larry showed up in other people's ads
Larry showed up in other people's ads for example joar pads for years we had
for example joar pads for years we had joar pads I designed the logo I don't
joar pads I designed the logo I don't know if you remember joar at all they
know if you remember joar at all they were the pad to have for years and years
were the pad to have for years and years before flight I slided a bunch of
before flight I slided a bunch of artwork to them and paint and then they
artwork to them and paint and then they became ads and posters and I would
became ads and posters and I would always put Harry in them I remember one
always put Harry in them I remember one time there was this I I don't know whose
time there was this I I don't know whose concept this was but it was a painting
concept this was but it was a painting of a giant johar handlebar pad flying
of a giant johar handlebar pad flying through the sky uhuh and on it was like
through the sky uhuh and on it was like Tim judge and Harry and trying to think
Tim judge and Harry and trying to think who else was in it a bunch of the pros
who else was in it a bunch of the pros at that time and down below there was
at that time and down below there was guys sort of evil silhouetted BMXers
guys sort of evil silhouetted BMXers shooting at them you know trying to
shooting at them you know trying to knock him off the pad but you know joar
knock him off the pad but you know joar was always on top I have no idea what it
was always on top I have no idea what it meant but yeah so Harry had a
meant but yeah so Harry had a residual power beyond a pop power he was
residual power beyond a pop power he was a celebrity in that world yeah
a celebrity in that world yeah recognizable I mean nobody looked like
recognizable I mean nobody looked like him he was as white as the driven snow
him he was as white as the driven snow with his little you know tow head white
with his little you know tow head white hair kind of comb over he had and he was
hair kind of comb over he had and he was going bald when he was in his early 20s
going bald when he was in his early 20s yeah so he had a look that was instantly
yeah so he had a look that was instantly identifiable you have to realize that
identifiable you have to realize that what's so old bikes were Diamond frame
what's so old bikes were Diamond frame tubular Forks they were pretty much a
tubular Forks they were pretty much a parody product and you could argue that
parody product and you could argue that maybe some had better components or some
maybe some had better components or some had some proprietory it was a freestyle
had some proprietory it was a freestyle bike it might have the gyro head or
bike it might have the gyro head or something and you can some proprietory
something and you can some proprietory designs but pretty much what gave the
designs but pretty much what gave the brand the personality was the writers AB
brand the personality was the writers AB oh my gosh they PA if you're were a kid
oh my gosh they PA if you're were a kid you're a good writer your dream was to
you're a good writer your dream was to be a factory wrer yeah and then if
be a factory wrer yeah and then if you're a factory writer and you could
you're a factory writer and you could actually make money you'd be writing
actually make money you'd be writing anyway right and then on top of that if
anyway right and then on top of that if you happen to be the poster child for
you happen to be the poster child for that brand you were recognizable
that brand you were recognizable everywhere you went there might be other
everywhere you went there might be other writers that they were on your heels but
writers that they were on your heels but obviously it went hand in hand that
obviously it went hand in hand that Harry was a
Harry was a tenacious competitive writer that won
tenacious competitive writer that won and he became one of those fa is a
and he became one of those fa is a darling in the BMX World darling isn't
darling in the BMX World darling isn't the right word I mean he was a bad dude
the right word I mean he was a bad dude he was as competitive as they came as
he was as competitive as they came as strong as an ax squatty wasn't very tall
strong as an ax squatty wasn't very tall he was fiercely competitive I always
he was fiercely competitive I always kind of had that same thought that he
kind of had that same thought that he was ridiculously strong right like I've
was ridiculously strong right like I've seen pictures of him and I'm like oh my
seen pictures of him and I'm like oh my goodness I've heard his training
goodness I've heard his training regiment or different versions of it and
regiment or different versions of it and it's just tremendous but I forgot who
it's just tremendous but I forgot who said it recently in one of the podcasts
said it recently in one of the podcasts that they said they believe he was
that they said they believe he was underpowered and I said that's kind of
underpowered and I said that's kind of the first time I've ever heard that one
the first time I've ever heard that one but I heard that wow he was part of I
but I heard that wow he was part of I think very few writers had the notoriety
think very few writers had the notoriety kind of tidbit is not everybody got to
kind of tidbit is not everybody got to see these guys ride well you had to be
see these guys ride well you had to be so fortunate if you were a fan sure
so fortunate if you were a fan sure those Pros never came rarely would come
those Pros never came rarely would come ever to a local track yeah you know
ever to a local track yeah you know unless that track staged a national or a
unless that track staged a national or a grand or something like that
grand or something like that was part of the Ava circuit so it was
was part of the Ava circuit so it was very difficult for you to actually see
very difficult for you to actually see these people in real life so their
these people in real life so their imagery ads and magazines they test ride
imagery ads and magazines they test ride a bike sometimes they just became
a bike sometimes they just became legendary yeah they became Heroes to
legendary yeah they became Heroes to these kids an example I'll give you is
these kids an example I'll give you is if you're a NBA fan you love basketball
if you're a NBA fan you love basketball you have your guide team you root for
you have your guide team you root for yeah it was the same thing as that but
yeah it was the same thing as that but kids that wrote BMX maybe weren't
kids that wrote BMX maybe weren't interested in traditional sports like
interested in traditional sports like football but their passion was BMX so
football but their passion was BMX so whoever was hot in BMX they became the
whoever was hot in BMX they became the icon they became the equivalent of a
icon they became the equivalent of a Teen Idol for a girl you got a upage
Teen Idol for a girl you got a upage spread they would rip that out kids
spread they would rip that out kids would rip that out and put her on their
would rip that out and put her on their their wall and and I tore through
their wall and and I tore through magazine I get that yep you mentioned
magazine I get that yep you mentioned you're kind of talking about and I grew
you're kind of talking about and I grew up in a fortunate situation not knowing
up in a fortunate situation not knowing it and I did the three season for right
it and I did the three season for right the baseball basketball football I was
the baseball basketball football I was never allowed to race but I was on my
never allowed to race but I was on my BMX bike every day for oh years down at
BMX bike every day for oh years down at the river trails and exactly who was at
the river trails and exactly who was at the river trails with me at that time
the river trails with me at that time frame none other than the Livermore boss
frame none other than the Livermore boss team so I got to watch those guys a lot
team so I got to watch those guys a lot I was bored by what they were able to do
I was bored by what they were able to do I couldn't ever imagine doing such a
I couldn't ever imagine doing such a thing but it was it was a really cool to
thing but it was it was a really cool to be a part of even though it was totally
be a part of even though it was totally outside of
outside of anything yeah that's so cool yeah
anything yeah that's so cool yeah everybody's got a local gang group Club
everybody's got a local gang group Club friend group whatever it is that they
friend group whatever it is that they rode with and there was always those
rode with and there was always those kids slightly older or maybe the same
kids slightly older or maybe the same age that were slightly Wilder and they
age that were slightly Wilder and they were local Legends you know you always
were local Legends you know you always have the local Legends they were well
have the local Legends they were well let me let me let me let me finish up
let me let me let me let me finish up this thing about Harry lry when I was
this thing about Harry lry when I was doing radical Rick that's the other
doing radical Rick that's the other thing I knew is there were when I popped
thing I knew is there were when I popped in a character a writer a recognizable
in a character a writer a recognizable writer as in a cameo or did a story
writer as in a cameo or did a story around Greg Hill or Stu or people love
around Greg Hill or Stu or people love that and also if I could have somebody a
that and also if I could have somebody a writer Eddie fola whoever pop in in the
writer Eddie fola whoever pop in in the background and interact with Rick it was
background and interact with Rick it was he gave radical Rick a little bit of a
he gave radical Rick a little bit of a legitimacy like he's on the same level
legitimacy like he's on the same level as these guys yeah so Harry would pop in
as these guys yeah so Harry would pop in all the time even if he's just in the
all the time even if he's just in the background it's so funny by the way
background it's so funny by the way total sidebar okay fast forward all
total sidebar okay fast forward all right 45 years later oh my goodness last
right 45 years later oh my goodness last year last year I was a nominee at the
year last year I was a nominee at the BMX Hall of Fame and every year they
BMX Hall of Fame and every year they have a old school vintage race and to
have a old school vintage race and to commemorate that that's out in Tulsa I
commemorate that that's out in Tulsa I did a poster of a bunch of riders it
did a poster of a bunch of riders it look like they're in the main or
look like they're in the main or something like that these pro riders
something like that these pro riders and they're coming over radical Rick is
and they're coming over radical Rick is in the front because he's radical Rick
in the front because he's radical Rick and flanking him are all these other pro
and flanking him are all these other pro riders but and they're going over what
riders but and they're going over what it looks like a jump but if you look
it looks like a jump but if you look closer it's not a jump It's the Grim
closer it's not a jump It's the Grim Reaper he becomes a jump and you know
Reaper he becomes a jump and you know the metaphor being like I know this is
the metaphor being like I know this is an old vintage thing and these are a
an old vintage thing and these are a bunch of old dudes but they're not going
bunch of old dudes but they're not going to let time slow them down or age and in
to let time slow them down or age and in that group at the top of course you have
that group at the top of course you have radical Rick but I had Tommy brackens
radical Rick but I had Tommy brackens and I had Harry in there and a couple
and I had Harry in there and a couple other guys too recogniz one of the
other guys too recogniz one of the Patterson brothers so here's what's so
Patterson brothers so here's what's so crazy all right more of the Deep dive on
crazy all right more of the Deep dive on Harry yeah and how he comes in and out
Harry yeah and how he comes in and out of my life working on a collaboration
of my life working on a collaboration with a BMX shoe company called scg okay
with a BMX shoe company called scg okay and it's the only Rider owned shoe
and it's the only Rider owned shoe company this guy refuses to sell out to
company this guy refuses to sell out to the big companies you know whoever wants
the big companies you know whoever wants to come and buy him he won't do it yeah
to come and buy him he won't do it yeah and the is line is so cool and anyway he
and the is line is so cool and anyway he sends me out of the kindness of his
sends me out of the kindness of his heart he really wants me to sign up with
heart he really wants me to sign up with him because over the years a lot of
him because over the years a lot of companies have wooed me to do radical
companies have wooed me to do radical Rick and you know to use radical Rick as
Rick and you know to use radical Rick as a licensing tool on licensing product an
a licensing tool on licensing product an IP intellectual property for products
IP intellectual property for products and this guy sends me two slipons like
and this guy sends me two slipons like classic band style slipons oh okay two
classic band style slipons oh okay two pairs and the image on it got that image
pairs and the image on it got that image from the Grand National vintage race he
from the Grand National vintage race he put it on the shoe so when you put them
put it on the shoe so when you put them together it shows the whole lineup of
together it shows the whole lineup of riders across your toes that is cool and
riders across your toes that is cool and and there's Harry again showing up it's
and there's Harry again showing up it's incredible so then yeah popping up my
incredible so then yeah popping up my life so like 45 years of being woven
life so like 45 years of being woven with Harry I know it's a weird way to
with Harry I know it's a weird way to say it but it's kind of what I just
say it but it's kind of what I just heard yes so Harry is just so
heard yes so Harry is just so interesting he's popped in and out of my
interesting he's popped in and out of my life from my early days of advertising
life from my early days of advertising creating ads for diamond back and then
creating ads for diamond back and then of course drawing him and radical Rick
of course drawing him and radical Rick and just to to now to have him come back
and just to to now to have him come back and pop into some of my artwork again I
and pop into some of my artwork again I was crushed when I found out that he
was crushed when I found out that he passed away it's such a bummer yeah and
passed away it's such a bummer yeah and you know I don't know the details but
you know I don't know the details but here's what I know is when you're a
here's what I know is when you're a little kid well I shouldn't say little
little kid well I shouldn't say little kid when you're a young person a young
kid when you're a young person a young man the fame that he got early on you
man the fame that he got early on you know you go through a period of life
know you go through a period of life where you are an absolute rock star MH
where you are an absolute rock star MH and you hear some of the stories of
and you hear some of the stories of these guys going on tour I mean they
these guys going on tour I mean they legitimately were they were like the
legitimately were they were like the Beatles you know they show up to some
Beatles you know they show up to some place and the kids are just mobbing them
place and the kids are just mobbing them the stories are amazing so I would think
the stories are amazing so I would think you know none of us you know an example
you know none of us you know an example is I was always behind the scenes
is I was always behind the scenes radical Rick was out front all my
radical Rick was out front all my artwork was out front but I'm I'm just a
artwork was out front but I'm I'm just a dude in a garage drawing artwork and
dude in a garage drawing artwork and dreaming of living large you know I'm
dreaming of living large you know I'm not W nobody knows what I look like nope
not W nobody knows what I look like nope it was kind of a nice nice way to go so
it was kind of a nice nice way to go so you have a mask is thing so you
you have a mask is thing so you created well anyway so when I found out
created well anyway so when I found out Harry passed I thought oh my gosh you
Harry passed I thought oh my gosh you know some guys make get out of that
know some guys make get out of that Journey you know being a Teen Idol yeah
Journey you know being a Teen Idol yeah and some of them it's just something
and some of them it's just something that scars them and I don't know if that
that scars them and I don't know if that contributed to it you know because when
contributed to it you know because when you are it would be so difficult to be
you are it would be so difficult to be top of the world at a young age and then
top of the world at a young age and then to have it slowly be you get past
to have it slowly be you get past basically yeah you know it's the next
basically yeah you know it's the next Superstar takes your place and yeah not
Superstar takes your place and yeah not everybody not everybody body can adjust
everybody not everybody body can adjust to that yeah he definitely had
to that yeah he definitely had challenges later in life that I've
challenges later in life that I've learned of and you know we all have
learned of and you know we all have challenges I kind of I'm glad that you
challenges I kind of I'm glad that you brought up the age thing because it's
brought up the age thing because it's not necessarily something I I thought of
not necessarily something I I thought of from that perspective of peing young you
from that perspective of peing young you know going down from there so that puts
know going down from there so that puts a little bit different perspective of
a little bit different perspective of him in my mind I thank for that
him in my mind I thank for that understanding think about it think about
understanding think about it think about it too Kyle you know when you're a young
it too Kyle you know when you're a young person and hot
person and hot other teams are trying to get you and
other teams are trying to get you and they're offering you they are just
they're offering you they are just blowing smoke up your end you're the
blowing smoke up your end you're the greatest things in the world you you're
greatest things in the world you you're so much better than everybody else and
so much better than everybody else and we're going to take you to new heights
we're going to take you to new heights because you deserve it and there's a
because you deserve it and there's a saying don't believe your press most I
saying don't believe your press most I shouldn't say all of them that's really
shouldn't say all of them that's really unfair but a lot of these companies were
unfair but a lot of these companies were they just wanted what was the hottest
they just wanted what was the hottest flavor of the week yeah and if Harry
flavor of the week yeah and if Harry happened to be that guy they would throw
happened to be that guy they would throw the full force promise of the Moon and
the full force promise of the Moon and you go from people clamoring to have a
you go from people clamoring to have a little bit of Harry or a little bit of
little bit of Harry or a little bit of start they want you to be the next
start they want you to be the next Superstar to represent their brand so
Superstar to represent their brand so they're willing to tell you anything
they're willing to tell you anything sure about the money you're going to
sure about the money you're going to make all the plans they have for you you
make all the plans they have for you you deserve it you do you're the greatest
deserve it you do you're the greatest thing since uh the right brothers and
thing since uh the right brothers and suddenly you know you're believe in the
suddenly you know you're believe in the hype and then when the phone doesn't
hype and then when the phone doesn't ring anymore when the money dries out
ring anymore when the money dries out and that's all you know think about this
and that's all you know think about this SC they were at the peak of their where
SC they were at the peak of their where they would be going to college yeah so I
they would be going to college yeah so I think that would be pretty tough for
think that would be pretty tough for anyone to endure I've heard some stories
anyone to endure I've heard some stories of other jobs that Harry had to take to
of other jobs that Harry had to take to make his meet at time like driving a bus
make his meet at time like driving a bus which I think it's kind of interesting
which I think it's kind of interesting and humbling from that perspective yeah
and humbling from that perspective yeah that it would have been a heck of a ride
oh everybody buckle your seat belt click click we're off but but yeah I've heard
click we're off but but yeah I've heard that a lot especially when the money
that a lot especially when the money started drying up in the later 80s a lot
started drying up in the later 80s a lot of people had had a hard time with that
of people had had a hard time with that and it's just it's interesting to get
and it's just it's interesting to get that perspective or that Insight from
that perspective or that Insight from you even though you didn't fall victim
you even though you didn't fall victim to it but you have an understanding of
to it but you have an understanding of it yeah yeah yeah here you go sorry hey
it yeah yeah yeah here you go sorry hey no put that down no sand and the bucket
no put that down no sand and the bucket down oh boy sorry David but worse so
down oh boy sorry David but worse so from kind of I
um we were just talking about Harry's Legacy yeah the good news is that
Legacy yeah the good news is that majority of people who knew Harry and
majority of people who knew Harry and raced against him and remember him
raced against him and remember him appreciate what he did for the sport how
appreciate what he did for the sport how important he was to help brand the sport
important he was to help brand the sport in the growing early years yeah and I
in the growing early years yeah and I believe his legacy is going to live on
believe his legacy is going to live on in a positive way I believe so and I
in a positive way I believe so and I hope it does and I have one final
hope it does and I have one final question for you regarding that I got to
question for you regarding that I got to ask it first word that comes to mind
ask it first word that comes to mind when you think of Harry as a BMX
when you think of Harry as a BMX Legend I keep thinking tenacious love it
Legend I keep thinking tenacious love it thanks Sam so I was also kind of
thanks Sam so I was also kind of thinking about how you and I met and the
thinking about how you and I met and the evolution of kind of this friendship and
evolution of kind of this friendship and relationship that we have yeah how did
relationship that we have yeah how did we meet take me back to the golden AG
we meet take me back to the golden AG wasn't it in it was on the swany river I
wasn't it in it was on the swany river I believe 1994
believe 1994 and I believe that you were a steamboat
and I believe that you were a steamboat captain and I was a lowely oresman when
captain and I was a lowely oresman when suddenly the ship went around and
suddenly the ship went around and thankfully for your Ingenuity and
thankfully for your Ingenuity and mcgyver you were able to save the ship
mcgyver you were able to save the ship and if it wasn't for me lending you my
and if it wasn't for me lending you my paddle you would have been able to hook
paddle you would have been able to hook up that helicopter machine contraption
up that helicopter machine contraption that lifted the boat out of the rocks
that lifted the boat out of the rocks and saved everyone aboard it and from
and saved everyone aboard it and from that time on you've been indebted to me
that time on you've been indebted to me for me carrying the ore and turning it
for me carrying the ore and turning it over to you to create such a wonderful
over to you to create such a wonderful rescue we'll be friends for life yeah
rescue we'll be friends for life yeah but I have one question about that can
but I have one question about that can can I keep the ore uh it's yours forever
can I keep the ore uh it's yours forever maybe have it bronzed oh yeah actually
maybe have it bronzed oh yeah actually yeah I like that honest with you I don't
yeah I like that honest with you I don't know have to think about that well how
know have to think about that well how did we go ahead let's talk about how we
did we go ahead let's talk about how we met I started a group on Facebook and I
met I started a group on Facebook and I purchased something I purchased a trophy
purchased something I purchased a trophy on eBay it was from radical Rick and I
on eBay it was from radical Rick and I was was going to put it into my radical
was was going to put it into my radical Rick collection and I just happened to
Rick collection and I just happened to ask the seller is was this and he said
ask the seller is was this and he said Harry Larry so I reached out to you to
Harry Larry so I reached out to you to offer you the trophy you proposed a
offer you the trophy you proposed a different option and it's turned out to
different option and it's turned out to be kind of fun and cool and I I had a
be kind of fun and cool and I I had a really good time and I felt good after
really good time and I felt good after our
our experience I remember that so fondly and
experience I remember that so fondly and you know what is wild Kyle is I get so
you know what is wild Kyle is I get so many wacky requests for startup t-shirt
many wacky requests for startup t-shirt companies commissions logos and over the
companies commissions logos and over the years I've realized that pretty quick
years I've realized that pretty quick vetting system asking people and I can
vetting system asking people and I can just chitchat with them a little while
just chitchat with them a little while and I can tell if they're full of blone
and I can tell if they're full of blone or they're they're not going to go
or they're they're not going to go anywhere or they'll get interest Decay
anywhere or they'll get interest Decay and interest Decay is a term that I use
and interest Decay is a term that I use we live in a fallen world you know stuff
we live in a fallen world you know stuff is constantly falling apart and there's
is constantly falling apart and there's always this sort of atrophy of
always this sort of atrophy of excitement that happens great idea
excitement that happens great idea around the water cooler a week later
around the water cooler a week later maybe a mediocre idea a week later not
maybe a mediocre idea a week later not even a glimmer of how cool it could have
even a glimmer of how cool it could have been and then it's forgotten by the
been and then it's forgotten by the third week and I could tell that you
third week and I could tell that you were kind of a take this the best
were kind of a take this the best possible way you made it really clear
possible way you made it really clear that you were putting time into how we
that you were putting time into how we could do this you were excited about it
could do this you were excited about it you were sponsive I said this is a good
you were sponsive I said this is a good cause this the right thing to do yeah it
cause this the right thing to do yeah it involves radical Rick and if I can help
involves radical Rick and if I can help r raise some money that is fantastic
r raise some money that is fantastic great and so I remember it well and I'm
great and so I remember it well and I'm glad you asked me because as a result of
glad you asked me because as a result of that I get to sit by the beach watch
that I get to sit by the beach watch your daughter play with what is that a
your daughter play with what is that a sand castle or is that a sand Mansion
sand castle or is that a sand Mansion fantastic talking that's cool that was
fantastic talking that's cool that was really cool to hear your perspective of
really cool to hear your perspective of how we came together and well we've
how we came together and well we've talked a little bit about doing another
talked a little bit about doing another charity but I've kind of idea in mind
charity but I've kind of idea in mind and hope to talk with you soon later
and hope to talk with you soon later we'll talk later yes sound very soon I
we'll talk later yes sound very soon I think it's pretty sound thing but Greg
think it's pretty sound thing but Greg he's a friend of Harry's and I are going
he's a friend of Harry's and I are going to be running a charity again here very
to be running a charity again here very soon and after that I plan on reaching
soon and after that I plan on reaching out cool let me know how I can help yes
out cool let me know how I can help yes sir so I I'm sorry I Googled you you
sir so I I'm sorry I Googled you you know you're us to Google but you used to
know you're us to Google but you used to work for Hot Wheels I did advertising
work for Hot Wheels I did advertising work for years on metal He-Man Hot
work for years on metal He-Man Hot Wheels what I did so many Masters of the
Wheels what I did so many Masters of the Universe commercials and
Universe commercials and yeah I wore craft cereal for years I was
yeah I wore craft cereal for years I was at an agency and that little agency that
at an agency and that little agency that I went to my first job ever I parlay
I went to my first job ever I parlay that into my wife basically asked me
that into my wife basically asked me like you're an illustrator ski
like you're an illustrator ski instructor what is this advertising
instructor what is this advertising stuff what are we going to do with it I
stuff what are we going to do with it I said well really to make a go at it we
said well really to make a go at it we either got to move to LA New York or
either got to move to LA New York or Chicago cuz those are the centers and we
Chicago cuz those are the centers and we were living in Huntington Beach at the
were living in Huntington Beach at the time okay and and I drove up to Los
time okay and and I drove up to Los Angeles which might as well when you're
Angeles which might as well when you're an Orange County kid going to Los
an Orange County kid going to Los Angeles is like you might as well be
Angeles is like you might as well be going to downtown Manhattan New York
going to downtown Manhattan New York because it was just so foreign to us we
because it was just so foreign to us we had dirt fields we could ride bikes in
had dirt fields we could ride bikes in we had beaches we just wide open and
we had beaches we just wide open and anyway so I headed up there and I had a
anyway so I headed up there and I had a contact from college who had a job and I
contact from college who had a job and I was able to get in there and a funny
was able to get in there and a funny story is I positioned myself as a Hy
story is I positioned myself as a Hy toyy creative director showing them all
toyy creative director showing them all my fancy schmancy ads but I didn't let
my fancy schmancy ads but I didn't let them know I could draw because I wanted
them know I could draw because I wanted to just see my thinking and in the
to just see my thinking and in the traditional world of
traditional world of advertising nobody can really draw that
advertising nobody can really draw that you hire illustrators you hire artists
you hire illustrators you hire artists to do your storyboards you hire people
to do your storyboards you hire people whose sole job it is is to create the
whose sole job it is is to create the imagery that you use to sell to the
imagery that you use to sell to the client and so they went through my whole
client and so they went through my whole book and they were looking you know I
book and they were looking you know I was the youngest guy in their department
was the youngest guy in their department and the guy that was interviewing me
and the guy that was interviewing me goes you know we really need somebody
goes you know we really need somebody who can
who can draw and thank goodness in the back of
draw and thank goodness in the back of portfolio I had a two-page spread of
portfolio I had a two-page spread of radical Rick when he
radical Rick when he introduces the TAC okay and it was
introduces the TAC okay and it was laminated and I said well I drew this
laminated and I said well I drew this well I didn't know it was from Hot
well I didn't know it was from Hot Wheels and he was the creative director
Wheels and he was the creative director on Hot Wheels he goes wait right here he
on Hot Wheels he goes wait right here he brings in the executive creative
brings in the executive creative director and he goes Dan I want you to
director and he goes Dan I want you to meet Damen Fulton he drew this he looks
meet Damen Fulton he drew this he looks at my radical Rick you know I thought
at my radical Rick you know I thought radical Rick was just those you know I
radical Rick was just those you know I didn't think a big Wilshire Ad Agency
didn't think a big Wilshire Ad Agency would care about a comic strip and he
would care about a comic strip and he goes wait a second you drew this I go
goes wait a second you drew this I go yeah you wrote this I said said yeah and
yeah you wrote this I said said yeah and the guy just went guys come here and all
the guy just went guys come here and all sudden all the offs is empty and the
sudden all the offs is empty and the place was filled with poets and
place was filled with poets and screenwriters and everybody had been
screenwriters and everybody had been divorced multiple times it was kind of
divorced multiple times it was kind of like the tail end of the Mad Men Days
like the tail end of the Mad Men Days and I was this Plucky kid from
and I was this Plucky kid from Huntington Beach and thankfully they
Huntington Beach and thankfully they hired me on the spot and I went to work
hired me on the spot and I went to work immediately on Hot Wheels eventually
immediately on Hot Wheels eventually working on Masters of the Universe I
working on Masters of the Universe I worked on tons of kids products and it
worked on tons of kids products and it was great if I could ever work
was great if I could ever work skateboard or bicycle in a commercial I
skateboard or bicycle in a commercial I did it all the time I love it so yeah
did it all the time I love it so yeah that was my world and R Rick there's
that was my world and R Rick there's another example of how radical Rick
another example of how radical Rick opened a door for me that turned out to
opened a door for me that turned out to be my career my livelihood I went on to
be my career my livelihood I went on to become a creative director there I went
become a creative director there I went over to Marvel and worked when Marvel
over to Marvel and worked when Marvel was an animation company back into
was an animation company back into advertising and started directing TV
advertising and started directing TV commercials and movies and yeah so I've
commercials and movies and yeah so I've had a really blessed career I'm so
had a really blessed career I'm so fortunate I couldn't have planned it and
fortunate I couldn't have planned it and I'm still drawn radical Rick today 45
I'm still drawn radical Rick today 45 years later pretty funny I'm not doing
years later pretty funny I'm not doing the comic script you're not going to
the comic script you're not going to believe this what's that can't see this
believe this what's that can't see this but because I've got it hidden behind my
but because I've got it hidden behind my back underneath my beach towel but I'm
back underneath my beach towel but I'm actually doodling as we speak on a
actually doodling as we speak on a clipboard that has an image of radical
clipboard that has an image of radical red so I've seen those that you've made
red so I've seen those that you've made they're amazing I wanted to buy from
they're amazing I wanted to buy from your last batch but I'm happy that I got
your last batch but I'm happy that I got the Super Cross G oh you got one of
the Super Cross G oh you got one of those those print that's awesome yes I
those those print that's awesome yes I got the go I have not yet taken out of
got the go I have not yet taken out of the box it's sitting with my 40th
the box it's sitting with my 40th anniversary and a couple other things
anniversary and a couple other things right now
right now yeah that's cool man well you you enjoy
yeah that's cool man well you you enjoy that that was it we good good job man
that that was it we good good job man those things are F that was a fun image
those things are F that was a fun image I made I remember making it try to do
I made I remember making it try to do stuff now that are in the character of
stuff now that are in the character of rad Uncle Rick like what how would
rad Uncle Rick like what how would radical Rick appear today and that
radical Rick appear today and that concept of this time portal where the
concept of this time portal where the radical Rick of the past is bracing the
radical Rick of the past is bracing the radical Rick of the present the first
radical Rick of the present the first time I've done a radical Rick in modern
time I've done a radical Rick in modern BMX regalia it was really fun to kind of
BMX regalia it was really fun to kind of experience that research that yeah
experience that research that yeah they're going head to-head in the
they're going head to-head in the background a lot of times what I like to
background a lot of times what I like to do is packet full of 80s type references
do is packet full of 80s type references and I love that yeah it's just fun
and I love that yeah it's just fun because then it gives me a chance that
because then it gives me a chance that kind of giving a nod to my old you know
kind of giving a nod to my old you know I read Mad Magazine religiously as a kid
I read Mad Magazine religiously as a kid and in that style of always sort of
and in that style of always sort of lampooning other brands and other pop
lampooning other brands and other pop culture icons I love just slipping them
culture icons I love just slipping them in and surprising myself oh right
in and surprising myself oh right there's a Ninja Turtle I wonder what he
there's a Ninja Turtle I wonder what he looks like dra in the radic style I've
looks like dra in the radic style I've got to tell you I think I don't I own
got to tell you I think I don't I own your
your paperback the oh you got it the complete
paperback the oh you got it the complete episode have not completely read it from
episode have not completely read it from front to back yet but I do like going
front to back yet but I do like going through I selecting it every so often
through I selecting it every so often and my probably my favorite thing and I
and my probably my favorite thing and I I got to admit I don't know if I have a
I got to admit I don't know if I have a favorite episode EX for the ending which
favorite episode EX for the ending which I want to talk with you about but what I
I want to talk with you about but what I love is I told you my genre very small
love is I told you my genre very small community that we had like three bike
community that we had like three bike manufacturer and now I've learned over
manufacturer and now I've learned over the years of all these other Racers and
the years of all these other Racers and all of these other bike manufacturing
all of these other bike manufacturing companies and I'm finding them in your
companies and I'm finding them in your your book yeah it's fun so funny yeah
your book yeah it's fun so funny yeah back then I go to the BMX plus offices
back then I go to the BMX plus offices once a month drop off the radical Rick
once a month drop off the radical Rick and back then it was big pan painted it
and back then it was big pan painted it was not digital they would have to take
was not digital they would have to take it from me take original artwork and
it from me take original artwork and scan it because it needed an oversized
scan it because it needed an oversized drum scanner huh and sometimes I'd get
drum scanner huh and sometimes I'd get them back the the beauty is I'd be in
them back the the beauty is I'd be in their offices and I get to just hang out
their offices and I get to just hang out talk with everybody and Jun car the
talk with everybody and Jun car the photographer and you know they had went
photographer and you know they had went through various editors over the years
through various editors over the years and it was great because I could see
and it was great because I could see looking at John Carr's proof sheets I
looking at John Carr's proof sheets I could see all the emerging Racers and
could see all the emerging Racers and then they had a room that would be where
then they had a room that would be where their test spikes were you know
their test spikes were you know manufacturers sent them bikes by the
manufacturers sent them bikes by the boatload I can imagine because they were
boatload I can imagine because they were just hoping that they would test it or
just hoping that they would test it or give a review you needed that the
give a review you needed that the magazines were a credible Source it
magazines were a credible Source it legitimized a brand and if you got a
legitimized a brand and if you got a good review the manufacturers by company
good review the manufacturers by company scratched you know BMX plus and BMX
scratched you know BMX plus and BMX actions back because they were they were
actions back because they were they were buying
buying advertising so you know and I don't know
advertising so you know and I don't know how much buy all this advertising and
how much buy all this advertising and you get a really glowing review and the
you get a really glowing review and the test riter couldn't break the bike and
test riter couldn't break the bike and the test rider went a higher the best
the test rider went a higher the best bike in the world but anyway my point is
bike in the world but anyway my point is going into the offices of BMX plus over
going into the offices of BMX plus over 13 years I got to see the evolution of
13 years I got to see the evolution of the sport I got to see and appreciate
the sport I got to see and appreciate the various phases it I look back and
the various phases it I look back and it's all reflected in that book because
it's all reflected in that book because if you go to the early days the first
if you go to the early days the first time I drew Ric was 1979 and so it was
time I drew Ric was 1979 and so it was just starting to really take a hold of
just starting to really take a hold of have an organizing body of races and
have an organizing body of races and everything thing all the way through to
everything thing all the way through to where the end it was beginning of the X
where the end it was beginning of the X Games and anyway I'm just so thankful by
Games and anyway I'm just so thankful by looking back at this that I got to step
looking back at this that I got to step in the office of BMX plus and see the
in the office of BMX plus and see the develop of BMX right before my eyes I
develop of BMX right before my eyes I can only imagine the things you've seen
can only imagine the things you've seen in this sport over the last 45 years is
in this sport over the last 45 years is really cool I think but hey you know
really cool I think but hey you know what the coolest the coolest thing in
what the coolest the coolest thing in the world I just want to say real quick
the world I just want to say real quick is I got to take off here in a little
is I got to take off here in a little while the incredible vindication in the
while the incredible vindication in the last few years for the sport of BMX
last few years for the sport of BMX bikes have never gone away yeah the one
bikes have never gone away yeah the one thing that I am so thankful that I got
thing that I am so thankful that I got to see so many years later is the
to see so many years later is the emergence of BMX culture in so many
emergence of BMX culture in so many different ways mainstreamed again when
different ways mainstreamed again when we were kids a 20-in bike was the mode
we were kids a 20-in bike was the mode of operation you remember that
of operation you remember that everywhere everywhere and then around
everywhere everywhere and then around the early 90s mountain bikes came in Y
the early 90s mountain bikes came in Y and that's really what killed the sport
and that's really what killed the sport was what I should say killed the sport
was what I should say killed the sport killed the momentum that was growing
killed the momentum that was growing because in order to purchase ads and
because in order to purchase ads and magazines in order to grow the sport you
magazines in order to grow the sport you need to have bicycle manufacturers
need to have bicycle manufacturers supporting teams and events and all
supporting teams and events and all their focus went to mountain bikes Y and
their focus went to mountain bikes Y and if you were a kid in the '90s after
if you were a kid in the '90s after about 94 you started asking for a
about 94 you started asking for a mountain bike uhhuh 26in wheel or bigger
mountain bike uhhuh 26in wheel or bigger instead of a BMX bike and suddenly BMX
instead of a BMX bike and suddenly BMX was struggling just so sad and then
was struggling just so sad and then thank God the X game and the extreme
thank God the X game and the extreme sports movement in general revitalized
sports movement in general revitalized it it's kind of funny is in the 2000s
it it's kind of funny is in the 2000s BMX plus picked up radical Rick again
BMX plus picked up radical Rick again even though I wasn't drawing yeah you
even though I wasn't drawing yeah you know went on for several more years and
know went on for several more years and now to see the sport I remember when it
now to see the sport I remember when it was put in the Olympics you can have
was put in the Olympics you can have discussion after discussion and argument
discussion after discussion and argument about SP gone too far whatever
about SP gone too far whatever it's still bikes and it's still guys
it's still bikes and it's still guys hustling to get around a track as fast
hustling to get around a track as fast as possible that's incredible and then
as possible that's incredible and then the stuff they're doing in the air right
the stuff they're doing in the air right now in parks and just free riding
now in parks and just free riding phenomenal I was just looking at one
phenomenal I was just looking at one today earlier today I got my haircut the
today earlier today I got my haircut the barber had a screen up and it was a red
barber had a screen up and it was a red bull rider on a 20-in bike through Italy
bull rider on a 20-in bike through Italy and they'd set up all these crazy ramps
and they'd set up all these crazy ramps and everything and oh my gosh the kind
and everything and oh my gosh the kind of inversions they can do and it's
of inversions they can do and it's beautiful see the sport I like to call
beautiful see the sport I like to call it cool again I'm stoked that it's cool
it cool again I'm stoked that it's cool again and now with the Advent of big
again and now with the Advent of big wheel bikes and you can have that same
wheel bikes and you can have that same BMX experience even though you're a long
BMX experience even though you're a long and lanky stiff arthritic old man you
and lanky stiff arthritic old man you could still ride and wheelie it's
could still ride and wheelie it's awesome yeah and I know a lot of people
awesome yeah and I know a lot of people like to bag on se but they really did
like to bag on se but they really did something with bike life and I think
something with bike life and I think they do oh they sure did so Todd Li oh
they do oh they sure did so Todd Li oh Todd is Todd Lions my favorite thing to
Todd is Todd Lions my favorite thing to do is to read when somebody bags on him
do is to read when somebody bags on him because just get it right back yeah when
because just get it right back yeah when I didn't know who Todd Lions was I used
I didn't know who Todd Lions was I used to bag on it because everybody when the
to bag on it because everybody when the big bike movement happened in Co a lot
big bike movement happened in Co a lot of bike manufacturers were they really
of bike manufacturers were they really want to come out with a radical wreck
want to come out with a radical wreck bike and so I talked to a lot of people
bike and so I talked to a lot of people Todd Lions is one of them GT I finally
Todd Lions is one of them GT I finally end up going with harro because they had
end up going with harro because they had such passion for the brand and it's an
such passion for the brand and it's an ultimate irony because I'm often
ultimate irony because I'm often confused for people think Ric Rook was
confused for people think Ric Rook was done by Bob Harold which is great Bob's
done by Bob Harold which is great Bob's a friend of mine and people are asking
a friend of mine and people are asking him I love your radic telling I love
him I love your radic telling I love your radical rck oh my goodness thank
your radical rck oh my goodness thank you that wasn't me yes I am so thankful
you that wasn't me yes I am so thankful that BMX has landed where it is and that
that BMX has landed where it is and that you can continue to ride and just
you can continue to ride and just remember our youth and I'm certain that
remember our youth and I'm certain that this wave is going to continue long past
this wave is going to continue long past we're gone hey it's been great chatting
we're gone hey it's been great chatting with you Daman I know you got well you
with you Daman I know you got well you got a few blocks to
got a few blocks to ride well hey I'm going let get back to
ride well hey I'm going let get back to your family I'm going to head out here
your family I'm going to head out here in a minute go find the wife and cool
in a minute go find the wife and cool see what she's up to we'll catch up
see what she's up to we'll catch up later Kyle tell me all about stuff yeah
later Kyle tell me all about stuff yeah all right man well listen God bless you
all right man well listen God bless you we'll talk again safe travels wherever
we'll talk again safe travels wherever your next adventure takes you right
your next adventure takes you right thank you my friend to you as well take
thank you my friend to you as well take care bye bye

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